AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Emirates breakeven figure revealed          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Edinburgh Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Kerr Guest Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 11:57 pm    Post subject: Emirates breakeven figure revealed Rather than post this info in the 500,000th passenger on GLA-DXB thread, I'll take this opportunity to reveal that their breakeven load factor is just 59.9%. They also said that their overll load factor was 76.2% Those facts are reported in Emirates financial results. Does anybody know if any of their regional UK routes exceed either or both of those figures ? Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: Emirates breakeven figure revealed "David Kerr" <david.avdb (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote in message news:1178823435.331961.172560 (AT) n59g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: Rather than post this info in the 500,000th passenger on GLA-DXB thread, I'll take this opportunity to reveal that their breakeven load factor is just 59.9%. They also said that their overll load factor was 76.2% Those facts are reported in Emirates financial results. Does anybody know if any of their regional UK routes exceed either or both of those figures ? Thanks for that David. I'm sure you'll have the MAN and BHX figures to hand but in March they carried 18310 pax between DXB and GLA. That's a 70.3% load factor assuming 60 flights with 434 seats each. Clive Back to top GKirk Guest Posted: Fri May 11, 2007 12:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Emirates breakeven figure revealed On 10 May, 23:39, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Quote: "David Kerr" <david.a...@lineone.net> wrote in message news:1178823435.331961.172560 (AT) n59g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... Rather than post this info in the 500,000th passenger on GLA-DXB thread, I'll take this opportunity to reveal that their breakeven load factor is just 59.9%. They also said that their overll load factor was 76.2% Those facts are reported in Emirates financial results. Does anybody know if any of their regional UK routes exceed either or both of those figures ? Thanks for that David. I'm sure you'll have the MAN and BHX figures to hand but in March they carried 18310 pax between DXB and GLA. That's a 70.3% load factor assuming 60 flights with 434 seats each. Clive I think one or two of the flights may have used 777-200ER a.c? Back to top David Kerr Guest Posted: Sun May 13, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Re: Emirates breakeven figure revealed On 10 May, 23:39, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Thanks for that David. I'm sure you'll have the MAN and BHX figures to hand but in March they carried 18310 pax between DXB and GLA. That's a 70.3% load factor assuming 60 flights with 434 seats each. Clive Not immediately to hand but should be able to work out pretty accurately the annual loads, once I've updated my list of EK fleet listing into the right configuarations. Anyway, did you see that they've a further 4 A380s on order and people hypothesising for an extra order of between 15 to 20 to follow! I'd love to put the following in one of the EK threads on airliners.net: "If in any doubt about why they'll need more A380s, here's the 2006 statistics for UK-Dubai scheduled services: LHR: 1,374,451 pax, up 16.2%. Players: VS daily, BA 2? daily EK 5 daily LGW: 501,802 pax, up 3.9%. Player: EK 3 daily MAN: 416,201 pax, up 12.5%: Player: EK 2 daily BHX: 308,825 pax, up 33.4%: Player: EK 2 daily GLA: 192,932 pax. up 15.1%. Player: EK daily Altogether: 2,794,211 pax, up 14.8%. 1 daily VS flight, 2 from BA and no fewer than 13 EK flights per day. And this year they are starting a daily NCL service!" Back to top David Kerr Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 11:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Emirates breakeven figure revealed On 17 May, 10:31, Joe Curry <abil...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote: Quote: The message <1179005099.670254.186...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com from David Kerr <david.a...@lineone.net> contains these words: GLA: 192,932 pax. up 15.1%. Player: EK daily Wrong newsgroup. KEEP IT EDI! Only if you keep it EDI yourself. And it's not the wrong newsgroup as the VERY, VERY important fact that appears to have escaped your mind (if you have one) is that there will be NO Scottish expansion should the GLA service not be successful. That means NO EDI ROUTE if you've not worked out what that last sentence means. Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Re: Emirates breakeven figure revealed "David Kerr" <david.avdb (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote in message news:1179425468.725847.324690 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On 17 May, 10:31, Joe Curry <abil...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote: The message <1179005099.670254.186...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com from David Kerr <david.a...@lineone.net> contains these words: GLA: 192,932 pax. up 15.1%. Player: EK daily Wrong newsgroup. KEEP IT EDI! Only if you keep it EDI yourself. And it's not the wrong newsgroup as the VERY, VERY important fact that appears to have escaped your mind (if you have one) is that there will be NO Scottish expansion should the GLA service not be successful. That means NO EDI ROUTE if you've not worked out what that last sentence means. Indeed. And funny that of the 7 different airports you mentioned in your post he only objected to the mention of GLA. Speaks volumes for his undouted problem. Clive Back to top Zippy Guest Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:31 am    Post subject: Re: Emirates breakeven figure revealed On May 17, 8:23 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Quote: "David Kerr" <david.a...@lineone.net> wrote in message news:1179425468.725847.324690 (AT) h2g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com... On 17 May, 10:31, Joe Curry <abil...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote: The message <1179005099.670254.186...@n59g2000hsh.googlegroups.com from David Kerr <david.a...@lineone.net> contains these words: GLA: 192,932 pax. up 15.1%. Player: EK daily Wrong newsgroup. KEEP IT EDI! Only if you keep it EDI yourself. And it's not the wrong newsgroup as the VERY, VERY important fact that appears to have escaped your mind (if you have one) is that there will be NO Scottish expansion should the GLA service not be successful. That means NO EDI ROUTE if you've not worked out what that last sentence means. Indeed. And funny that of the 7 different airports you mentioned in your post he only objected to the mention of GLA. Speaks volumes for his undouted problem. Clive I think he must have had a bad experience on DL and he's come back more bitter than ever. 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