AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  New Condor Scenery: Mifflin!          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Sailplanes View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Lucky Klassen Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 7:09 pm    Post subject: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on approach to the airport. If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator out there. http://www.condorsoaring.com/ The Mifflin scenery is located here: http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en Racing can be found anytime here: http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide contest. http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php Back to top Bruce Guest Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! Lucky Klassen wrote: Quote: I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on approach to the airport. If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator out there. http://www.condorsoaring.com/ The Mifflin scenery is located here: http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en Racing can be found anytime here: http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide contest. http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully. Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this personal? Bruce Back to top Frank Whiteley Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce <b...@wesgray.co.za> wrote: Quote: Lucky Klassen wrote: I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on approach to the airport. If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator out there. http://www.condorsoaring.com/ The Mifflin scenery is located here: http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en Racing can be found anytime here: http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide contest. http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully. Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this personal? Bruce Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems. Frank Back to top Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! "Bruce" <bgpub (AT) wesgray (DOT) co.za> wrote in message news:f2fbnt$1ica$1 (AT) newsreader02 (DOT) ops.uunet.co.za... Quote: Lucky Klassen wrote: I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must ... That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully. Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this personal? Bruce Didn't work for me either (a few months ago). -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. Back to top Bill Daniels Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 4:54 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! Condor has upgraded their servers over the last few weeks. It's possible some payment links are broken. Send them an e-mail Bill Daniels "Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe" <The Sea Hawk at wow way d0t com> wrote in message news:BeGdnTWQTIOd7dbbnZ2dnUVZ_rWnnZ2d (AT) wideopenwest (DOT) com... Quote: "Bruce" <bgpub (AT) wesgray (DOT) co.za> wrote in message news:f2fbnt$1ica$1 (AT) newsreader02 (DOT) ops.uunet.co.za... Lucky Klassen wrote: I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must ... That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully. Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this personal? Bruce Didn't work for me either (a few months ago). -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. Back to top Markus Graeber Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! Condor uses Share*It for payment processing and electronic delivery. Share*It's payment processing servers are actually in Germany since this is a German based company and they seem to have problems at times with their system rejecting international transactions even when your bank says that they didn't block anything or never even received a transaction request. I didn't have any problems purchasing Condor but when I got a new license key for SeeYou (Naviter uses Share*It as well) I had all kinds of problems with my (US) credit card being denied even after I called my bank to make sure that they didn't block the transaction for whatever security reason. I eventually managed to get the payment through using a different (US) card from a different bank. Try a different card and have a word with your bank to make sure that they didn't block it because of a German IP address requesting the transaction. It can get pretty frustrating if you are trying to do a simple and fully legitimate $50 transaction and end up fighting global fraud protection routines on several levels... Markus Back to top Bruce Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! Markus Graeber wrote: Quote: Condor uses Share*It for payment processing and electronic delivery. Share*It's payment processing servers are actually in Germany since this is a German based company and they seem to have problems at times with their system rejecting international transactions even when your bank says that they didn't block anything or never even received a transaction request. I didn't have any problems purchasing Condor but when I got a new license key for SeeYou (Naviter uses Share*It as well) I had all kinds of problems with my (US) credit card being denied even after I called my bank to make sure that they didn't block the transaction for whatever security reason. I eventually managed to get the payment through using a different (US) card from a different bank. Try a different card and have a word with your bank to make sure that they didn't block it because of a German IP address requesting the transaction. It can get pretty frustrating if you are trying to do a simple and fully legitimate $50 transaction and end up fighting global fraud protection routines on several levels... Markus I'm in South Africa. Regularly transact this way - my card provider knows this. As Shawn surmised it is the card company's fraud protection/money laundering bit that is not working. It demands a CSP registration - both on cards that have active CSP, and one that does not - links through to the local bank to activate CSP, and then it dies. It appears to be a Mastercard+ShareIt thing, they are not registered CSP protected vendors, but either their payment gateway, or the local bank is demanding it. Had no problem a couple of months back when I upgraded See you, but things might have changed. Will test with another international provider. Any excuse to buy more toys. Back to top Shawn Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! Lucky Klassen wrote: Quote: I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on approach to the airport. If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator out there. http://www.condorsoaring.com/ The Mifflin scenery is located here: http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en Racing can be found anytime here: http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide contest. http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php Contact your credit card company and let them now you're trying to make a foreign purchase if you're credit card isn't working. I assume you're in the US-we're all Mericans here aren't we That's what it took for me in Jan. Shawn Back to top alex8735 Guest Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! Condor is the best gliding simulator available. Besides being a fun alternative on rainy winter days condor may have real training potential. The feel of competition and XC soaring is conveyed very well in many aspects. The direct comparison to the people you are flying against quickly show the high kost of useless circles or flying poor lift. Beginners with condor competition experience will probably be more aware of their real life mistakes and learn more quickly. The MacReady theorie plays an important role in condor and therefore offers an alternative training method to real life flying (It should be kept in mind that the MacReady theorie plays a more important role in condor than in real life). To me the NMEA output of condor offers the highest training potential. I use GPS_Log on my PDA and find it very helpful to be able to test different settings with realistic input data. If you come across a problem you can easily press pause and read up on it in the manual. This has greatly raised my confidence in the data made available in the PDA because I now now what the effect of different settings have and do not get unexpected readings anymore. Condor also has its limits. The pure feel and joy of flying will never be simulated. The weather models are missing all the little subtleties which make real life flying so interesting. One of the most beautiful things in real life soaring is that you always see something new, no two flights are ever the same. This is something condor is far from being able to simulate. Back to top Frank Whiteley Guest Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! On May 16, 1:18 pm, Frank Whiteley <frank.white...@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce <b...@wesgray.co.za> wrote: Lucky Klassen wrote: I just downloaded the new Mifflin scenery addition to Condor Flight Sim. I have never flown out of Mifflin in real life (yet-...must rework the Lak-12 trailer...). I took a ASW-22 up for a flight and recognised many terrain features from my favorite soaring movie "A Fine Week of Soaring". The best one being the notch in the ridge on approach to the airport. If you have not tried Condor it is simply the best soaring simulator out there. http://www.condorsoaring.com/ The Mifflin scenery is located here: http://www.speedbattle.com/downloads.php?lang=en Racing can be found anytime here: http://www.condorsoaring.com/serverlist.php Right now they are running a "virtual contest" with the real Handweide contest. http://hww07.hahnweide.com/en/participants.php That reminded me that I wanted to buy Condor -which I tried to do, unsuccessfully. Has anybody else been having trouble with the Condor paymwent gateway or is this personal? Bruce Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems. Frank BTW, I used PayPal Frank Back to top Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe Guest Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:29 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! "Frank Whiteley" <frank.whiteley (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1179429993.382615.154860 (AT) q23g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On May 16, 1:18 pm, Frank Whiteley <frank.white...@gmail.com> wrote: On May 16, 10:28 am, Bruce <b...@wesgray.co.za> wrote: ... Picked up a copy about a month ago without problems. Frank BTW, I used PayPal Frank DOOHH!!! Why didn't I think of that! That worked just fine. I even had some money left in the Pay Pal account... -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. Back to top Capt. Geoffrey Thorpe Guest Posted: Sat May 19, 2007 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: New Condor Scenery: Mifflin! "alex8735" <alexswagemakers (AT) gmx (DOT) de> wrote in message news:1179413627.174304.55020 (AT) n59g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: Condor is the best gliding simulator available. Besides being a fun alternative on rainy winter days condor may have real training potential. The feel of competition and XC soaring is conveyed very well in many aspects. The direct comparison to the people you are flying against quickly show the high kost of useless circles or flying poor lift. Beginners with condor competition experience will probably be more aware of their real life mistakes and learn more quickly. The MacReady theorie plays an important role in condor and therefore offers an alternative training method to real life flying (It should be kept in mind that the MacReady theorie plays a more important role in condor than in real life). Hey! I'd be happy to just stay behind the #$@&* towplane!!! -- Geoff The Sea Hawk at Wow Way d0t Com remove spaces and make the obvious substitutions to reply by mail When immigration is outlawed, only outlaws will immigrate. 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