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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 4:02 am    Post subject: Awarding of first Combat Action Medal delayed Reply with quote



Awarding of first Combat Action Medal delayed
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{EXCERPT} , By Bryant Jordan - Staff writer Posted : Tuesday May 15, 2007 17:38:59 EDT

The inaugural awarding of the Air Force Combat Action Medal, originally slated for sometime in May, now is scheduled for June as the Air Force works to select the first recipient, a site for the ceremony and a medal to award.

Air Force spokesman Capt. Tom Wenz said the Air Force is still working on the nominations and a choice of where to hold the ceremony.

It’s also awaiting

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Awarding of first Combat Action Medal delayed Reply with quote



On May 15, 3:02 pm, Otis Willie PIO The American War Library
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Awarding of first Combat Action Medal delayedhttp://www.airforcetimes.com/news/2007/05/airforce_combat_medal_070514/

{EXCERPT} , By Bryant Jordan - Staff writer Posted : Tuesday May 15, 2007 17:38:59 EDT

The inaugural awarding of the Air Force Combat Action Medal, originally slated for sometime in May, now is scheduled for June as the Air Force works to select the first recipient, a site for the ceremony and a medal to award.

Air Force spokesman Capt. Tom Wenz said the Air Force is still working on the nominations and a choice of where to hold the ceremony.

It's also awaiting

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Seems to me that the Air Medal is in fact a combat action medal.

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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Awarding of first Combat Action Medal delayed Reply with quote



On 16 May 2007 12:23:21 -0700, Bombardier <artkramr (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

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On May 16, 5:09?am, Ed Rasimus <rasimusSPAML...@verizon.net> wrote:
On 15 May 2007 18:14:55 -0700, Bombardier <artkr...@aol.com> wrote:

Seems to me that the Air Medal is in fact a combat action medal.

Art

Nope. No requirement for combat in the criteria for the Air Medal.

It does, however, require aerial flight. It can be awarded for
sustained achievement, as in completion of a set number of combat
missions. It can be awarded for a single heroic action in flight at a
level less than that required for the DFC. It can be awarded for a
meritorious achievement in flight, such as setting a flight record or
handling a noteworthy emergency situation. Lots of ways to get an AM.

Similarly the DFC can also be awarded for circumstances which do NOT
require combat. It does, however, also require aerial flight. The DFC
is considered equal in precedence to the Bronze Star. The Bronze Star
can also be awarded for combat or non-combat actions. The BSM is not
ever awarded for aerial action.

The first level of military decoration that requires combat ("action
against an opposing armed force") is the Silver Star.

Ed Rasimus


In WW II you needed 5 combat missions to get an air medal. There was
no other way to get one. Fly 5 more missions and you got an oak leaf
cluster. I flew 50 so I have the equivilent of 10 Air Medals.

Sustained achievement award criteria has varied. You needed five
missions per AM, I needed 10 over North Vietnam or 20 in the other
combat areas. With 150 NVN missions and another 100 in Laos, Cambodia
and S. Vietnam, I wound up with 20 awards of the AM.

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I needed
65 missions to go home so I had to put in 18 months in the Army of
Ocupation in Germany. We flew a lot of occuaption duties but no air
medals were awardrd onc the war ended. None. Zero. I take pride in my
air medals because I knew I flew 5 combat missions for each one. The
Air Medal was a big deal with the Army Air Corps. From what I hear it
was cheapened when the Air Force took over.

Many folks might disagree with you on that. Loss rates in other
conflicts, higher mission requirements for tour completion, and more
missions per AM award would make it hard to sustain the argument that
the medal was "cheapened".


It's noteworthy, however, that an early criterion for the AM was the
destruction of an enemy aircraft in the air or two enemy aircraft on
the ground. That language was deleted by the time the Vietnam conflict
got cranked up and the LBJ administration was so elated by the first
MiG kill of the conflict that they awarded a Silver Star. That set the
precedent for MiG kills in Vietnam. A lot of other SSMs weren't so
easy to earn.

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Too bad.Anyone ever feel
that all we needed was the Army Air Corps and not the Air Firce at
all?

Art

Probably only you and Henry Cobb.

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