AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  zoom with hawking? Goto page 1, 2  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aircraft Design & Building View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message TSS7 Guest Posted: Mon May 07, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: zoom with hawking? Zoom wrote: Folks... I've just come off one of the most extraordinary weeks of my life. This week has been steeped in all segments of aviation -- I flew in Zero Gravity (aboard a Boeing 727) with Professor Stephen Hawking... I looped and rolled my Glasair III off the Florida coast... I flew Cessna's new Citation Mustang... I checked a buddy out in his new Mooney... I traveled a good deal on America's airliners (NOT UAL) to get to and fro... and I got to do a little bit of soaring in a sturdy old Grob Twin II Acro sailplane. I loved and valued all the ways in which I aviated... equally and for unique/important reasons. I have never found any aspect of aviation to be any thing but synergistic with the rest. There is equal value in all of aviation and we should stand together, united, against all threats I suspect this could be a lie. Does anyone really think that kook was up with Hawking in that 727? I read the story in the news, and saw no one in the pictures with Hawking that looked like Cambell. Back to top Timothy Sinclair Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 12:22 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? Frank M.Hitlaw wrote: Quote: I hate to be the one to bear the bad news regarding this issue. I did see some news coverage of the Hawking flight and zzzoom was there. I repeat: James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. - Tim Back to top TSS7 Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? For Zoomer to put such an incredible lie on his website makes me realize he really must be psychotic, and loosing touch with reality. What do that call that? Schizophrenic? On Mon, 7 May 2007 14:46:50 -0500, "Montblack" <Y4_NOT!...4monty4blacky (AT) yyvisyyiy (DOT) comy> wrote: Quote: ("TSS7" wrote) Zoom wrote: Folks... I've just come off one of the most extraordinary weeks of my life. This week has been steeped in all segments of aviation -- I flew in Zero Gravity (aboard a Boeing 727) with Professor Stephen Hawking... James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. He must mean he was in the air at the same time and pushed the nose of his plane over and felt zero G at the same time Hawking did. Right.... I'm going to hate myself in the morning, but here goes... Is it at all possible that Zoom is doing an EXTREMELY sloppy job of presenting (himself in) an "everyman/every airman" persona? It's a device you see in theatrical presentations, all the time - where the narrator morphs into various characters along the way, to help the story along. Another example is this Rolling Stone's song: http://www.seeklyrics.com/lyrics/Rolling-Stones/Sympathy-For-The-Devil.html Sympathy for the Devil lyrics Montblack Back to top Morgans Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? "Timothy Sinclair" > wrote Quote: James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. Not that I doubt the "correctness" of your statement, but how do you come to this conclusion, if I may ask? -- Jim in NC Back to top Scott Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:39 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? Now you did it! He'll be back for sure now... Anthony W wrote: Quote: ChuckSlusarczyk wrote: Just did a Goole search of "Hawking zero G" and read most of the articles and looked at all the photos and guess what no zoom ...Even the group photo after the flight had no zoom...Could it be that maybe zoom is being less then truthfull?? Hmmmm. Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret What's really amazing is waun-abee hasn't posted here talking trash and defending zoom. It must have gotten old having zoom's hand up his butt. Tony -- Scott http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ Gotta Fly or Gonna Die Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) Back to top Scott Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:41 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? Most modern cameras have a delay so the photographer could run around the camera and insert himself (no jokes please) into the photo... Bill Chernoff wrote: Quote: Just did a Goole search of "Hawking zero G" and read most of the articles and looked at all the photos and guess what no zoom ...Even the group photo after the flight had no zoom...Could it be that maybe zoom is being less then truthfull?? Hmmmm. Of course he's not IN the picture. Being a journalist, he TOOK the picture. -- Scott http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/ Gotta Fly or Gonna Die Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version) Back to top BobR Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:26 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? TSS7 wrote: Quote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:21:46 +0200 (CEST), Timothy Sinclair nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Zoom wrote: Folks... I've just come off one of the most extraordinary weeks of my life. This week has been steeped in all segments of aviation -- I flew in Zero Gravity (aboard a Boeing 727) with Professor Stephen Hawking... James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. - Tim He must mean he was in the air at the same time and pushed the nose of his plane over and felt zero G at the same time Hawking did. Right.... Don't know if he was on the flight with Hawking or not but there is a photo of Jim with Hawking in the flight suit worn during the flight. While there are not any photos I could locate showing Jim in a flight suit for the trip or any showing him on board, I did find a group shot showing everyone except Jim. Since all the photos were copyrighted by ANN, it is possible he was the one taking the photos. This time, he might actually have been telling the truth. Hell, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Check out the 4/30/07 ANN News Update. Back to top red12049 Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? Take another look at that pic.... I brought it into Photoshop. Looks like the original pic was of Hawking mainly, and the gal and Jim were both added later. In particular, check out the left side of Hawkings' head, where the Zero G backdrop was added, and very poorly. The whole editing job smacks of amateurism, and yes, I've worked with Photoshop quite a bit. Bring the pic into any editing program and just enlarge it a bit, you'll see what I mean. Maybe this should be reported to Hawkings' people? Red "BobR" <reed1@r-a-reed-assoc.com> wrote in message news:1178580413.944161.199550 (AT) y80g2000hsf (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: TSS7 wrote: On Mon, 7 May 2007 19:21:46 +0200 (CEST), Timothy Sinclair nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote: Zoom wrote: Folks... I've just come off one of the most extraordinary weeks of my life. This week has been steeped in all segments of aviation -- I flew in Zero Gravity (aboard a Boeing 727) with Professor Stephen Hawking... James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. - Tim He must mean he was in the air at the same time and pushed the nose of his plane over and felt zero G at the same time Hawking did. Right.... Don't know if he was on the flight with Hawking or not but there is a photo of Jim with Hawking in the flight suit worn during the flight. While there are not any photos I could locate showing Jim in a flight suit for the trip or any showing him on board, I did find a group shot showing everyone except Jim. Since all the photos were copyrighted by ANN, it is possible he was the one taking the photos. This time, he might actually have been telling the truth. Hell, even a stopped clock is right twice a day. Check out the 4/30/07 ANN News Update. Back to top Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:05 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? On May 8, 4:44 am, "Morgans" <jessmor...@charter.net> wrote: Quote: "Timothy Sinclair" > wrote James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. Not that I doubt the "correctness" of your statement, but how do you come to this conclusion, if I may ask? -- Jim in NC I hate to be the one to bear the bad news regarding this issue. I did see some news coverage of the Hawking flight and zzzoom was there. The coverage was on the Keith Olberman Countdown twice during the short video I got a glimpse of zzzoom. He was not wearing a flight suit but the usual zzzoom photo vest. At the end of the film in a group picture he was on the far left side. My guess (if you have seen him lately) the reason for him not wearing a flight suit is that they didn't have one in a size 48 extra fat. Frank M.Hitlaw, at my secret world HQ Back to top red12049 Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? Ok, guess I'll have to be the one to ask: How do you know that? :) Red "Timothy Sinclair" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20070508002242.98FED4E5E6 (AT) outpost (DOT) zedz.net... Quote: Frank M.Hitlaw wrote: I hate to be the one to bear the bad news regarding this issue. I did see some news coverage of the Hawking flight and zzzoom was there. I repeat: James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. - Tim Back to top Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? On May 8, 9:51 am, ChuckSlusarczyk <ChuckSlusarczyk_mem...@newsguy.com> wrote: Quote: In article <r9R%h.102251$_c5.96119@attbi_s22>, John Ousterhout says... Zoom appears shortly after halfway through and again at the very end. I didn't look at any of the other videos; one was enough. I believe that Zoom has the same chance of racing a Rocket plane as Stephen Hawking does. You might be right that may be him or some other fat guy with grey hair and a beard So I may have been wrong and if so I own up to it. But I bet he never flys a rocket Racer LOL!! Chuck S The show I that I saw was a MSNBC production and the time line seems to jive with what John is describing. Now all the rest of his weeks accomplishments are likely pure zzzoom BS. Frank M.Hitlaw, at my secret world HQ Back to top Ron Wanttaja Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? On Mon, 7 May 2007 14:46:50 -0500, "Montblack" <Y4_NOT!...4monty4blacky (AT) yyvisyyiy (DOT) comy> wrote: Quote: I'm going to hate myself in the morning, but here goes... Is it at all possible that Zoom is doing an EXTREMELY sloppy job of presenting (himself in) an "everyman/every airman" persona? It's a device you see in theatrical presentations, all the time - where the narrator morphs into various characters along the way, to help the story along. It's certainly possible. The question is, is it an appropriate writing style for someone who claims to be an investigative reporter, writing in the same venue that he publishes what he claims is hard news? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Glass "..."Hack Heaven" depicted events that were almost cinematic in their vividness and that were told from a first-person perspective implying Glass was there as the action took place." Stephen Glass' big mistake is that he didn't *own* the media outlet that published his articles. Ron Wanttaja Back to top ChuckSlusarczyk Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? In article <r9R%h.102251$_c5.96119@attbi_s22>, John Ousterhout says... Quote: Zoom appears shortly after halfway through and again at the very end. I didn't look at any of the other videos; one was enough. I believe that Zoom has the same chance of racing a Rocket plane as Stephen Hawking does. You might be right that may be him or some other fat guy with grey hair and a beard So I may have been wrong and if so I own up to it. But I bet he never flys a rocket Racer LOL!! Chuck S Back to top John Ousterhout Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? http://gozerog.com/video.htm select NBC Today. Zoom appears shortly after halfway through and again at the very end. I didn't look at any of the other videos; one was enough. I believe that Zoom has the same chance of racing a Rocket plane as Stephen Hawking does. - John Ousterhout - http://www.ousterhout.net/ fhitlaw (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote: Quote: On May 8, 4:44 am, "Morgans" <jessmor...@charter.net> wrote: "Timothy Sinclair" > wrote James Campbell was not on board Stephen Hawking's zero-g flight. Not that I doubt the "correctness" of your statement, but how do you come to this conclusion, if I may ask? -- Jim in NC I hate to be the one to bear the bad news regarding this issue. I did see some news coverage of the Hawking flight and zzzoom was there. The coverage was on the Keith Olberman Countdown twice during the short video I got a glimpse of zzzoom. He was not wearing a flight suit but the usual zzzoom photo vest. At the end of the film in a group picture he was on the far left side. My guess (if you have seen him lately) the reason for him not wearing a flight suit is that they didn't have one in a size 48 extra fat. Frank M.Hitlaw, at my secret world HQ Back to top Richard Riley Guest Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: zoom with hawking? On Mon, 07 May 2007 15:52:54 GMT, Anthony W <technojock (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: ChuckSlusarczyk wrote: Just did a Goole search of "Hawking zero G" and read most of the articles and looked at all the photos and guess what no zoom ...Even the group photo after the flight had no zoom...Could it be that maybe zoom is being less then truthfull?? Hmmmm. Chuck S RAH-14/1 ret What's really amazing is waun-abee hasn't posted here talking trash and defending zoom. It must have gotten old having zoom's hand up his butt I was sure he'd pop in when they guy asked for TRS-18 help. 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