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Mike 'Flyin'8
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 Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Flight Following and OOPS |
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I am not sure what I should do with this, so I am fishing for
opinions, thoughts etc.
I took off from an airport and immediatly requested and received VFR
flight following through some Class C which lies between my current
position and my destination. I climbed to 5500 +/- 100ft and was
vectored through the Class C. When I was near the edge of the Class C
( I estimate I was 2-3 miles from the edge of exiting the Class C) I
was asked if I can resume own navigation, and report destination
airport in sight, I reported airport in sight and the controller told
me "resume own navigation, squak VFR, Radar services terminated"
I flew along for a short time and noted I was below the 5500 ft
ceiling of the class C (by around 100ft) and immediatly climed to
5600ft for the remaining couple miles.
So... Obviously I was in the Class C, and though I was still on
approach frequency, I do not think that I was still in radio contact,
right?
Is a NASA ARS form appropriate? Was I wrong and did I bust the C?
Mike Flyin' 8 |
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Mike 'Flyin'8
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Flight Following and OOPS |
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| Quote: | Which brings up the question, if you were near the edge of the class
C, why didn't you just ask for enroute decent?
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My airport is still 15+ miles from the edge of the Class C. I like to
remain high until I clear the small mountains (hills?) between the
Class C and my destination airport. Never really thought about an
enroute decent.
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Also, why did you climb to 5500 to begin with?
Mountains & safety I guess. I usually pick 5500 or 6500 for my local |
Cross countries.
| Quote: | Most C airports want you to cross midfield above the pattern
altitude, but I've never heard of one that wanted you above the
C to cross.
He asked me what altidude I would be climbing to and I told him |
5500... that was the end of conversation.
| Quote: | I go through C on a regular basis to get back to the home airport.
The drill is get flight following on or shortly after takeoff.
As I approach the C, request enroute decent to 4500 and get handed
off to the tower when I enter the C.
Ask the tower for enroute decent to 3500 and cross midfield. I know
from experience they don't want you crossing lower than that.
Once across the runway, request decent to 2500 which puts me about
300 feet above pattern altitude for the destination.
About half the time tower asks if I have the airport in sight as
I'm about to tell them I have it.
Squak VFR, thank you, announce on Unicom and enter the pattern.
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Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. I was not sure and
have read and re-read the FAR and just was not sure on this one.
Mike Flyin' 8 |
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Flight Following and OOPS |
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On May 2, 9:22 pm, Mike 'Flyin'8' <yeah.ri...@guess.again> wrote:
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So... Obviously I was in the Class C, and though I was still on
approach frequency, I do not think that I was still in radio contact,
right?
Is a NASA ARS form appropriate? Was I wrong and did I bust the C?
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Nope you didn't bust class C. The controller terminated radar
service, but you're still on his frequency were you? You should,
however stay on his frequency until you're cleared of class C, or to
receive prior permission to change frequency if you're still in class
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Flight Following and OOPS |
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Mike 'Flyin'8' <yeah.right (AT) guess (DOT) again> wrote:
| Quote: | I am not sure what I should do with this, so I am fishing for
opinions, thoughts etc.
I took off from an airport and immediatly requested and received VFR
flight following through some Class C which lies between my current
position and my destination. I climbed to 5500 +/- 100ft and was
vectored through the Class C. When I was near the edge of the Class C
( I estimate I was 2-3 miles from the edge of exiting the Class C) I
was asked if I can resume own navigation, and report destination
airport in sight, I reported airport in sight and the controller told
me "resume own navigation, squak VFR, Radar services terminated"
I flew along for a short time and noted I was below the 5500 ft
ceiling of the class C (by around 100ft) and immediatly climed to
5600ft for the remaining couple miles.
So... Obviously I was in the Class C, and though I was still on
approach frequency, I do not think that I was still in radio contact,
right?
Is a NASA ARS form appropriate? Was I wrong and did I bust the C?
Mike Flyin' 8
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I doubt it since they were probably expecting you to decend anyway
and they were the ones to terminate service.
Which brings up the question, if you were near the edge of the class
C, why didn't you just ask for enroute decent?
Also, why did you climb to 5500 to begin with?
Most C airports want you to cross midfield above the pattern
altitude, but I've never heard of one that wanted you above the
C to cross.
I go through C on a regular basis to get back to the home airport.
The drill is get flight following on or shortly after takeoff.
As I approach the C, request enroute decent to 4500 and get handed
off to the tower when I enter the C.
Ask the tower for enroute decent to 3500 and cross midfield. I know
from experience they don't want you crossing lower than that.
Once across the runway, request decent to 2500 which puts me about
300 feet above pattern altitude for the destination.
About half the time tower asks if I have the airport in sight as
I'm about to tell them I have it.
Squak VFR, thank you, announce on Unicom and enter the pattern.
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Jim Pennino
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Mike 'Flyin'8
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| Posted: Thu May 03, 2007 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Flight Following and OOPS |
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| Quote: | Nope you didn't bust class C. The controller terminated radar
service, but you're still on his frequency were you?
Yes, I am quite sure I was still on freq. but I do not recall him |
telling me Freq change approved either.
| Quote: | You should, however stay on his frequency until you're cleared of class C, or to
receive prior permission to change frequency if you're still in class
C.
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Good point. I will certainly file this in my memory banks. Thanks for
your time on this.
Mike Flyin' 8 |
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