AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  A few aircaft photo's ....          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Edinburgh Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Clive Braham Guest Posted: Thu Apr 26, 2007 11:17 pm    Post subject: A few aircaft photo's .... Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm As promised I timed the M8 sectors just to keep us right: GLA (abeam GLA after diversion to Linwood and back) - Charing X = 10 minutes (dep 9am) Charing X - "Welcome to Livingston" sign = 25 minutes Livi - EDI = 10 minutes EDI (Newbridge) - GLA = 45 minutes (dep noon) Clive Back to top Cats Guest Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... On Apr 26, 7:17 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm I'm interested to know what kit you are using, as the quality of your shots looks excellent to me and photography is my second hobby. Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:45 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "Cats" <ramwater (AT) uk2 (DOT) net> wrote in message news:1177676533.664897.132110 (AT) t38g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On Apr 26, 7:17 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm I'm interested to know what kit you are using, as the quality of your shots looks excellent to me and photography is my second hobby. It's not as good as I would like because it's a relatively cheap Canon EF 75-300mm lens. My shots seem to suffer a lot from my Photoshop treatment when I reduce them to 1024px for the web. Being self taught, I'm never quite sure if I'm doing it as well as possible. When shooting the same old planes over and over again, I guess the fun is in trying to get a better shot than before. The camera is a Canon 350D which is perfectly good. Clive Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "GKirk" <grahamkirk1983 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1177666467.816510.37240 (AT) u32g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On 26 Apr, 19:17, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm As promised I timed the M8 sectors just to keep us right: GLA (abeam GLA after diversion to Linwood and back) - Charing X = 10 minutes (dep 9am) Charing X - "Welcome to Livingston" sign = 25 minutes Livi - EDI = 10 minutes EDI (Newbridge) - GLA = 45 minutes (dep noon) Clive Thon Delta 767 at EDI must be the most photographed flight out of Scotland (along with the EK 77W) Indeed. I couldn't hang around for it to move so I had to make that unflattering shot and be off. Clive Back to top B Guest Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:43 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... On Apr 26, 7:17 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Quote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm First class shots, B Back to top Cats Guest Posted: Fri Apr 27, 2007 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... On Apr 27, 6:45 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Quote: "Cats" <ramwa...@uk2.net> wrote in message news:1177676533.664897.132110 (AT) t38g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 7:17 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm I'm interested to know what kit you are using, as the quality of your shots looks excellent to me and photography is my second hobby. It's not as good as I would like because it's a relatively cheap Canon EF 75-300mm lens. My shots seem to suffer a lot from my Photoshop treatment when I reduce them to 1024px for the web. Being self taught, I'm never quite sure if I'm doing it as well as possible. When shooting the same old planes over and over again, I guess the fun is in trying to get a better shot than before. The camera is a Canon 350D which is perfectly good. I don't know if Photoshop has different algorithms it can use for resizing, but you could try the following ideas: 1) Make the first thing you do with the image in Photoshop is to save it as a .psd. Resize that and save in a new name, possibly apply a bit of sharpening. Finally save as a .jpg - the algorithms for the .jpg compression can do a lot of damage if you open, alter, save, open, alter save and so on. Also, you can certainly choose different levels of compression for .jpg files and obviously the more the compression the more damage is done to the final image. 2) if you are taking .jpg files with the Canon, experiment with RAW files again saving intially as a .psd in Photoshop. 3) Read the Photoshop help to see if it offers choices you aren't using! 4) Hunt around for free resizing programs on the Internet. Two I know of are IrfanView, and EasyThumbnails. I don't have Photoshop, but I do take 35mm slides and scan them to a .tif with a Nikon film scanner, and the first thing I do with them in the editor program after correcting sloping horizons and minimal cropping is save in the program's native mode. Changes are made using layers, sharpening is left until last. HTH. Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 1:00 am    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "Cats" <ramwater (AT) uk2 (DOT) net> wrote in message news:1177699749.376358.240670 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On Apr 27, 6:45 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: "Cats" <ramwa...@uk2.net> wrote in message news:1177676533.664897.132110 (AT) t38g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 7:17 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm I'm interested to know what kit you are using, as the quality of your shots looks excellent to me and photography is my second hobby. It's not as good as I would like because it's a relatively cheap Canon EF 75-300mm lens. My shots seem to suffer a lot from my Photoshop treatment when I reduce them to 1024px for the web. Being self taught, I'm never quite sure if I'm doing it as well as possible. When shooting the same old planes over and over again, I guess the fun is in trying to get a better shot than before. The camera is a Canon 350D which is perfectly good. I don't know if Photoshop has different algorithms it can use for resizing, but you could try the following ideas: 1) Make the first thing you do with the image in Photoshop is to save it as a .psd. Resize that and save in a new name, possibly apply a bit of sharpening. Finally save as a .jpg - the algorithms for the .jpg compression can do a lot of damage if you open, alter, save, open, alter save and so on. Also, you can certainly choose different levels of compression for .jpg files and obviously the more the compression the more damage is done to the final image. 2) if you are taking .jpg files with the Canon, experiment with RAW files again saving intially as a .psd in Photoshop. 3) Read the Photoshop help to see if it offers choices you aren't using! 4) Hunt around for free resizing programs on the Internet. Two I know of are IrfanView, and EasyThumbnails. I don't have Photoshop, but I do take 35mm slides and scan them to a .tif with a Nikon film scanner, and the first thing I do with them in the editor program after correcting sloping horizons and minimal cropping is save in the program's native mode. Changes are made using layers, sharpening is left until last. HTH. Yes, it's food for thought. I might go experiment now with the .psd stage I shoot in maximum .jpg format which gives 2-3MB images but after levelling I often set the crop size to 1024 px then do the levels and sharpening. Dunno whether it makes a difference to set the dimensions for the crop in inches, do the levels etc then resize to 1024px at the end. I only save the edited image once and choose the least compression, assuming that most folk now have broadband for quick enough loading at around 500KB. Clive Back to top Charles C. Guest Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... Clive Braham wrote: Quote: "Cats" <ramwater (AT) uk2 (DOT) net> wrote in message news:1177699749.376358.240670 (AT) n35g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 27, 6:45 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: "Cats" <ramwa...@uk2.net> wrote in message news:1177676533.664897.132110 (AT) t38g2000prd (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 7:17 pm, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. I popped in briefly en-route to Dunfermline. www.flyglasgowdirect.co.uk/260407.htm I'm interested to know what kit you are using, as the quality of your shots looks excellent to me and photography is my second hobby. It's not as good as I would like because it's a relatively cheap Canon EF 75-300mm lens. My shots seem to suffer a lot from my Photoshop treatment when I reduce them to 1024px for the web. Being self taught, I'm never quite sure if I'm doing it as well as possible. When shooting the same old planes over and over again, I guess the fun is in trying to get a better shot than before. The camera is a Canon 350D which is perfectly good. I don't know if Photoshop has different algorithms it can use for resizing, but you could try the following ideas: 1) Make the first thing you do with the image in Photoshop is to save it as a .psd. Resize that and save in a new name, possibly apply a bit of sharpening. Finally save as a .jpg - the algorithms for the .jpg compression can do a lot of damage if you open, alter, save, open, alter save and so on. Also, you can certainly choose different levels of compression for .jpg files and obviously the more the compression the more damage is done to the final image. 2) if you are taking .jpg files with the Canon, experiment with RAW files again saving intially as a .psd in Photoshop. 3) Read the Photoshop help to see if it offers choices you aren't using! 4) Hunt around for free resizing programs on the Internet. Two I know of are IrfanView, and EasyThumbnails. I don't have Photoshop, but I do take 35mm slides and scan them to a .tif with a Nikon film scanner, and the first thing I do with them in the editor program after correcting sloping horizons and minimal cropping is save in the program's native mode. Changes are made using layers, sharpening is left until last. HTH. Yes, it's food for thought. I might go experiment now with the .psd stage I shoot in maximum .jpg format which gives 2-3MB images but after levelling I often set the crop size to 1024 px then do the levels and sharpening. Dunno whether it makes a difference to set the dimensions for the crop in inches, do the levels etc then resize to 1024px at the end. I only save the edited image once and choose the least compression, assuming that most folk now have broadband for quick enough loading at around 500KB. Clive Every time you save in JPG you reduce quality. Full size SLRs have the processing capacity to shoot in RAW fairly fast ... your storage on the camera might suffer but as long as you get a decent speed to be ready for the next image, use it. Cats' advice is right. :-) C. -- Please remove _removeme_ to reply. Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Sat Apr 28, 2007 3:22 am    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "Charles C." <c.k.christacopoulos.removeme.@dundee.ac.uk> wrote in message news:46326fe8$0$19253$da0feed9 (AT) news (DOT) zen.co.uk... Quote: Every time you save in JPG you reduce quality. Full size SLRs have the processing capacity to shoot in RAW fairly fast ... your storage on the camera might suffer but as long as you get a decent speed to be ready for the next image, use it. Cats' advice is right. :-) C. Wilco :-) Clive Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "fox1" <fox1 (AT) edinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message news:1177937580.147473.318790 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On Apr 26, 11:17 am, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. Abbotsinch is off topic here.. No it's not. Saying so is a waste of time and energy. It also drives quality down and conflict up. Just before you left you made it clear that non-EDI airports are perfectly topical (you quoted ABZ in that instance). Not that you get to dictate but you were right enough. EDI doesn't operate in a bubble so other airports will be mentioned form time to time and very often anyone interested enough in aviation to be reading here will be interested enough in the wider picture - in this case just some aircraft photo's for those interested in such things. If the mention of one airport in particular riles you, that's your look out. Nobody else will feel sufficiently disturbed as to demonstrate their anxiety. If they did they'd be similarly up a gum tree. It's preposterous to think that you can force your personal agenda on everyone else any more than any other individual could take it upon himself to decide. Quote: Try aaug or alt.travel.scotland.air Try relaxing, enjoy your holiday and give us all a break from unwanted posts like this... Clive Back to top Jon Simpson Guest Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 4:56 am    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:59mlpkF2jgcu9U1 (AT) mid (DOT) individual.net... Quote: "fox1" <fox1 (AT) edinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message news:1177937580.147473.318790 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... On Apr 26, 11:17 am, "Clive Braham" <c...@braham5.freeserve.co.uk wrote: Here's a few quick snaps from EDI and GLA today. Abbotsinch is off topic here.. No it's not. Saying so is a waste of time and energy. It also drives quality down and conflict up. Just before you left you made it clear that non-EDI airports are perfectly topical (you quoted ABZ in that instance). Not that you get to dictate but you were right enough. EDI doesn't operate in a bubble so other airports will be mentioned form time to time and very often anyone interested enough in aviation to be reading here will be interested enough in the wider picture - in this case just some aircraft photo's for those interested in such things. If the mention of one airport in particular riles you, that's your look out. Nobody else will feel sufficiently disturbed as to demonstrate their anxiety. If they did they'd be similarly up a gum tree. It's preposterous to think that you can force your personal agenda on everyone else any more than any other individual could take it upon himself to decide. Try aaug or alt.travel.scotland.air Try relaxing, enjoy your holiday and give us all a break from unwanted posts like this... Clive Clive. Please do not ever try to persuade me that he is worth consideration again. Less than 40 hours and he HAS to have attention.FFS ...Am I being unreasonable? He's 3000 miles away and still talks shi8te. Imagine "Hello Son. Just travelled across the Atlantic. Great to see you. Really missed you and the family. Tell me about yourself and all that has been happening the past year? What do we have planned for the next week or so?..Great to see the grandchildren. What do you think about.. So good to be here. Now get out of my way because I NEED to check out MY newsgroup. Gimme access, this is important." It won't be far away from the truth. JRS Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Tue May 01, 2007 5:44 pm    Post subject: Re: A few aircaft photo's .... "Jon Simpson" <jon (AT) surfandpict (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:46368215$0$760$4c56ba96 (AT) master (DOT) news.zetnet.net... Quote: Try relaxing, enjoy your holiday and give us all a break from unwanted posts like this... Clive Clive. Please do not ever try to persuade me that he is worth consideration again. Less than 40 hours and he HAS to have attention.FFS ...Am I being unreasonable? He's 3000 miles away and still talks shi8te. I think it's more like 5000 miles :-) No doubt those that are quick to criticise certain others will be along shortly to voice their concern... 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