AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Talking heads Goto page 1, 2  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Naval Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Jim Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Talking heads Sure is irritating to listen to the media report the crash of a Blue Angels F/A-18 at MCAS Beaufort. The more they ramble the more anyone with any aviation background recognizes these folks haven't a clue. For example; who went down? Well let's see the aircraft are numbered 1 thru 6. Which one isn't on the flightline? Also either Fox or CNN couldn't decide whether or not one of the pilots might have been a woman. Believe the Blue Angels home page could answer that really quickly. Where do they hire these idiots? ACC USN ret. NKX, BIKF, NAB, CV-63, NIR 67-69 69-71 71-74 77-80 80-85 & 74-77 Founder: RAMN (rec.aviation.military.naval) Back to top J.D. Baldwin Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 2:50 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads In the previous article, Jim <chief_jim (AT) go (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: The more they ramble the more anyone with any aviation background recognizes these folks haven't a clue. For example; who went down? Well let's see the aircraft are numbered 1 thru 6. Which one isn't on the flightline? I heard the Fox guy WHO HAS FLOWN WITH THEM say they do airshow maneuvers in excess of Mach 1. Yeah, okay. And the CNN website has been saying all day that the last crash involving the Blues was in 1999. (It was, in fact, in 2004.) And other assorted boneheaded errors that could have been resolved by going to any credible source. Like, say, Wikipedia. Quote: Also either Fox or CNN couldn't decide whether or not one of the pilots might have been a woman. Believe the Blue Angels home page could answer that really quickly. To be fair to Fox, one of the female correspondents asked the guy doing the actual reporting whether there were women (because he kept saying things like "these men") and he said, No, not at the moment there aren't. And in fairness to both Fox and CNN and others who didn't have basic info that could be gotten from www.blueangels.navy.mil, that page has been getting *slammed* since the story broke. Seeing as it is being served up by Microsoft web servers (according to Netcraft), it's no surprise that a high load has brought the service to its knees. I don't believe there has ever been a female Blue Angel pilot. (One of their MOs is a woman, and they have lots of female enlisted.) I think the first female Hornet pilots are just getting senior enough that they're being looked at for those billets now. -- _+_ From the catapult of |If anyone disagrees with any statement I make, I _|70|___:)=}- J.D. Baldwin |am quite prepared not only to retract it, but also \ / baldwin (AT) panix (DOT) com|to deny under oath that I ever made it. -T. Lehrer ***~~~~----------------------------------------------------------------------- Back to top Kenny Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads "Jim" <chief_jim (AT) go (DOT) com> wrote in message news:5GvWh.24$4e3.20 (AT) newsfe12 (DOT) lga... <snip> Quote: Where do they hire these idiots? to quote lyrics from Don Henley's "Dirty Laundry" "I could've been an actor, but I wound up here, I just have to look good, I don't have to be clear, Come and whisper in my ear, We need dirty laundry. Here comes the bubble headed bleach blonde, She can tell you 'bout the plane crash, with a gleam in her eye" Back to top John Miller Guest Posted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads Jim wrote: Quote: Sure is irritating to listen to the media report the crash of a Blue Angels F/A-18 at MCAS Beaufort. Yeah, funny things happen when newsies have to get stuff together in a hurry. CNN is quoting a source as saying that the F/A-18 can go in excess of 450 MPH. Well, that's correct, but... -- LTJG John Miller Co-founder, Pensacola Press Club (in 1973 or so) Back to top Tex Houston Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 1:44 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... Quote: One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Tex Back to top Jack G Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 2:18 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads If you are going to correct me, get it right: Group: Blue Angels. Individual Aircraft: Blue Angel (as in Blue Angel #6. ) And it is not the same thing as confusing a solo performer with a single pilot. Jack G. "Tex Houston" <texhouston (AT) pcisys (DOT) netVVV> wrote in message news:c7CdnU8TcZaHVLbbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d (AT) pcisys (DOT) net... Quote: "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Tex Back to top Clark Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:yfKdna- EfLLNTLbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: Quote: If you are going to correct me, get it right: Group: Blue Angels. Individual Aircraft: Blue Angel (as in Blue Angel #6. ) And it is not the same thing as confusing a solo performer with a single pilot. Jack G. Well Jack, an angle is not an angel... (he had it right enough) Quote: "Tex Houston" <texhouston (AT) pcisys (DOT) netVVV> wrote in message news:c7CdnU8TcZaHVLbbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d (AT) pcisys (DOT) net... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Tex -- --- there should be a "sig" here Back to top Jack G Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads Wrong. He accused me of being confused about the name of the group. I never mentioned the name of the group, I referred to one solo performer (Blue Angel #6). Unfortunately I made a transposition error and typed Angle instead of Angel. That is a long way from being confused! Jack G. "Clark" <ch2 (AT) uswest (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns991AA744CD0F5ch2uswestnet (AT) 64 (DOT) 209.0.81... Quote: "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:yfKdna- EfLLNTLbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: If you are going to correct me, get it right: Group: Blue Angels. Individual Aircraft: Blue Angel (as in Blue Angel #6. ) And it is not the same thing as confusing a solo performer with a single pilot. Jack G. Well Jack, an angle is not an angel... (he had it right enough) "Tex Houston" <texhouston (AT) pcisys (DOT) netVVV> wrote in message news:c7CdnU8TcZaHVLbbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d (AT) pcisys (DOT) net... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Tex -- --- there should be a "sig" here Back to top Mike Weeks Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:20 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads Even as late as today, Sunday, one AP release states: "The squadron's six, F/A-18 Hornets routinely streak low over crowds of thousands at supersonic speeds, coming within feet, sometimes inches, of each other." Back to top Blanche Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads And this morning on FOX, a short segment of the Thunderbirds' ground crew was shown, allegedly part of the Blue Angels' ground crew. Back to top Jack G Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads Please point out how this can be interpreted as a "correction" Rather than an accusation: Jack G. "Tex Houston" wrote: Quote: Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Jack G. Back to top Jack G Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads No, I was not simply corrected, I was accused of being confused about the name of the group. I never denied that I made a mistake. What I attacked was having a typo mistake I made equated to the significant mistake made by a news service by saying only two of the Blue Angels planes in the show were flown by a single pilot. Jack G. "Clark" <ch2 (AT) uswest (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns991AC672A8561ch2uswestnet (AT) 64 (DOT) 209.0.81... Quote: "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:N4-dnX89XfvXerbbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: Wrong. He accused me of being confused about the name of the group. I never mentioned the name of the group, I referred to one solo performer (Blue Angel #6). Unfortunately I made a transposition error and typed Angle instead of Angel. That is a long way from being confused! Wrong? No, you're the only one wrong here. You were called on a simple error and instead of admitting it you attacked. That is wrong. "Clark" <ch2 (AT) uswest (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns991AA744CD0F5ch2uswestnet (AT) 64 (DOT) 209.0.81... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:yfKdna- EfLLNTLbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: If you are going to correct me, get it right: Group: Blue Angels. Individual Aircraft: Blue Angel (as in Blue Angel #6. ) And it is not the same thing as confusing a solo performer with a single pilot. Jack G. Well Jack, an angle is not an angel... (he had it right enough) "Tex Houston" <texhouston (AT) pcisys (DOT) netVVV> wrote in message news:c7CdnU8TcZaHVLbbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d (AT) pcisys (DOT) net... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Tex -- --- there should be a "sig" here -- --- there should be a "sig" here Back to top Clark Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:N4-dnX89XfvXerbbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: Quote: Wrong. He accused me of being confused about the name of the group. I never mentioned the name of the group, I referred to one solo performer (Blue Angel #6). Unfortunately I made a transposition error and typed Angle instead of Angel. That is a long way from being confused! Wrong? No, you're the only one wrong here. You were called on a simple error and instead of admitting it you attacked. That is wrong. Quote: "Clark" <ch2 (AT) uswest (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns991AA744CD0F5ch2uswestnet (AT) 64 (DOT) 209.0.81... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:yfKdna- EfLLNTLbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: If you are going to correct me, get it right: Group: Blue Angels. Individual Aircraft: Blue Angel (as in Blue Angel #6. ) And it is not the same thing as confusing a solo performer with a single pilot. Jack G. Well Jack, an angle is not an angel... (he had it right enough) "Tex Houston" <texhouston (AT) pcisys (DOT) netVVV> wrote in message news:c7CdnU8TcZaHVLbbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d (AT) pcisys (DOT) net... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Tex -- --- there should be a "sig" here -- --- there should be a "sig" here Back to top Clark Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:c5KdnYg5BfLqg7HbnZ2dnUVZ_gadnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: Quote: Please point out how this can be interpreted as a "correction" Rather than an accusation: Jack G. Well, Jack, it's all in how you want to take it. If you want it to be an accusation then by all means take it as an accusation and defend yourself forevermore. On the other hand, if you want to admit your error then you can laugh and say "yup, I just inadvertently called them the Blue Angles, my bad." It's your call. Tex coulda helped out and put a smiley on it but he didn't. You can take it anyway you want it. The rest of us will decide for ourselves who-is-who. Quote: "Tex Houston" wrote: Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! Jack G. -- --- there should be a "sig" here Back to top Clark Guest Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Talking heads "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:fcWdnXRQW50zk7HbnZ2dnUVZ_uejnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: Quote: No, I was not simply corrected, I was accused of being confused about the name of the group. I never denied that I made a mistake. What I attacked was having a typo mistake I made equated to the significant mistake made by a news service by saying only two of the Blue Angels planes in the show were flown by a single pilot. You're still wrong. I didn't say that you were simply corrected. I said that you were "called for a simple errror." That is what happened and I find it regrettable that you cannot see that. Quote: "Clark" <ch2 (AT) uswest (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns991AC672A8561ch2uswestnet (AT) 64 (DOT) 209.0.81... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:N4-dnX89XfvXerbbnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: Wrong. He accused me of being confused about the name of the group. I never mentioned the name of the group, I referred to one solo performer (Blue Angel #6). Unfortunately I made a transposition error and typed Angle instead of Angel. That is a long way from being confused! Wrong? No, you're the only one wrong here. You were called on a simple error and instead of admitting it you attacked. That is wrong. "Clark" <ch2 (AT) uswest (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns991AA744CD0F5ch2uswestnet (AT) 64 (DOT) 209.0.81... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in news:yfKdna- EfLLNTLbbnZ2dneKdnZydnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com: If you are going to correct me, get it right: Group: Blue Angels. Individual Aircraft: Blue Angel (as in Blue Angel #6. ) And it is not the same thing as confusing a solo performer with a single pilot. Jack G. Well Jack, an angle is not an angel... (he had it right enough) "Tex Houston" <texhouston (AT) pcisys (DOT) netVVV> wrote in message news:c7CdnU8TcZaHVLbbnZ2dnUVZ_hynnZ2d (AT) pcisys (DOT) net... "Jack G" <remove.jgrouell (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote in message news:pomdnS31d5zbLbbbnZ2dnUVZ_q2pnZ2d (AT) comcast (DOT) com... One news story covering the crash said Blue Angle #6 was one of two airplanes flown by a single pilot during the show. I do believe they were confused by "solo" as applied to #6. Jack G. Same as you're confused about the name of the group? Angels, damn it! 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