AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Flight Time - Student ;) Goto page 1, 2  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Helicopters and rotary wing aircrafts View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Ol Shy & Bashful Guest Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Flight Time - Student ;) Weather going to shit and I had to make the runway with winds blowing 40kts and cloud deck down to 200. what to do...WHAT TO DO.. and I remembered my old USMC instructor telling me to just go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude. Broke out on top, rolled right side up and continued to an area where it was clear and unrestricted with calm winds. Made a ho-humm landing and waited for more favorable weather conditions at home base. My question is can I log actual IFR? Back to top Guest Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Thanks for the posting! I sure wish us Pilots who really want to discuss helicopters would get back on this forum. The crazy guy posting about Belford has just about ruined this group. Anyone want to talk helicopters? On Apr 18, 6:37 am, Ol Shy & Bashful <selway...@yahoo.com> wrote: Quote: Weather going to shit and I had to make the runway with winds blowing 40kts and cloud deck down to 200. what to do...WHAT TO DO.. and I remembered my old USMC instructor telling me to just go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude. Broke out on top, rolled right side up and continued to an area where it was clear and unrestricted with calm winds. Made a ho-humm landing and waited for more favorable weather conditions at home base. My question is can I log actual IFR? Back to top Maxwell Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:32 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Quote: Anyone want to talk helicopters? You bet. Contrary to popular belief, this really isn't the Belford forum. Back to top Don W Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Count me in if we're going to talk rotor stuff. I killfiled (filtered) the Belfort troll and don't see anything he posts anymore. Don W. Maxwell wrote: Quote: Anyone want to talk helicopters? You bet. Contrary to popular belief, this really isn't the Belford forum. Back to top JohnO Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:31 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) On Apr 19, 1:37 am, Ol Shy & Bashful <selway...@yahoo.com> wrote: Quote: Weather going to shit and I had to make the runway with winds blowing 40kts and cloud deck down to 200. what to do...WHAT TO DO.. and I remembered my old USMC instructor telling me to just go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude. Broke out on top, rolled right side up and continued to an area where it was clear and unrestricted with calm winds. Made a ho-humm landing and waited for more favorable weather conditions at home base. My question is can I log actual IFR? 'Go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude' - hey OSAB, can you explain that out in words a simpleton like me can understand? Back to top Gary K Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Now there's a maneuver that only a REAL helicopter pilot would attempt! How's the new family doing? Gary JohnO wrote: Quote: On Apr 19, 1:37 am, Ol Shy & Bashful <selway...@yahoo.com> wrote: Weather going to shit and I had to make the runway with winds blowing 40kts and cloud deck down to 200. what to do...WHAT TO DO.. and I remembered my old USMC instructor telling me to just go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude. Broke out on top, rolled right side up and continued to an area where it was clear and unrestricted with calm winds. Made a ho-humm landing and waited for more favorable weather conditions at home base. My question is can I log actual IFR? 'Go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude' - hey OSAB, can you explain that out in words a simpleton like me can understand? Back to top Maxwell Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) "Don W" <donw_s11atswbelldotnet (AT) figure (DOT) it.out> wrote in message news:pcxVh.11328$Kd3.9465 (AT) newssvr27 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... Quote: Count me in if we're going to talk rotor stuff. I killfiled (filtered) the Belfort troll and don't see anything he posts anymore. I don't kill file anything, but I do delete it. There used to be some really good discussions on here. What is your interest in rotorcraft? Back to top Maxwell Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Quote: 'Go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude' - hey OSAB, can you explain that out in words a simpleton like me can understand? I was having a hard time picturing that one myself. Back to top Don W Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Maxwell wrote: Quote: I don't kill file anything, but I do delete it. There used to be some really good discussions on here. What is your interest in rotorcraft? I'm a long time fixed winger (c 1973) who started flying helicopters two years ago and loved it. Except for the expensive hourly rate, I'd a lot rather be flying a heli for sightseeing/pleasure flights. Of course, the fixed wing wins when you need to travel somewhere, or when the conditions are IFR. The problem I've got right now is that the closest FBO with helicopters for rent is more than an hours drive from my house. Also, as I've learned more about the R22, I've become a skeptic about its low-inertia rotor system. Don W. Back to top Gary K Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) Sorry, this should refer to the OP Gary Gary K wrote: Quote: Now there's a maneuver that only a REAL helicopter pilot would attempt! How's the new family doing? Gary JohnO wrote: On Apr 19, 1:37 am, Ol Shy & Bashful <selway...@yahoo.com> wrote: Weather going to shit and I had to make the runway with winds blowing 40kts and cloud deck down to 200. what to do...WHAT TO DO.. and I remembered my old USMC instructor telling me to just go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude. Broke out on top, rolled right side up and continued to an area where it was clear and unrestricted with calm winds. Made a ho-humm landing and waited for more favorable weather conditions at home base. My question is can I log actual IFR? 'Go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude' - hey OSAB, can you explain that out in words a simpleton like me can understand? Back to top Ol Shy & Bashful Guest Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) On Apr 18, 9:22 pm, "Maxwell" <luv2fl...@cox.net> wrote: Quote: 'Go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude' - hey OSAB, can you explain that out in words a simpleton like me can understand? I was having a hard time picturing that one myself. Kind of tongue in cheek.....<gg> if you do an autorotation you go down. So, if you roll upside down and autorotate......you go up? You kind of had to be there to really get it......<G> Rocky Back to top JohnO Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) On Apr 20, 5:20 am, Ol Shy & Bashful <selway...@yahoo.com> wrote: Quote: On Apr 18, 9:22 pm, "Maxwell" <luv2fl...@cox.net> wrote: 'Go inverted and autorotate to get some altitude' - hey OSAB, can you explain that out in words a simpleton like me can understand? I was having a hard time picturing that one myself. Kind of tongue in cheek.....<gg> if you do an autorotation you go down. So, if you roll upside down and autorotate......you go up? You kind of had to be there to really get it......<G Rocky LOL! How were we to know these grizzled old vets could have such a playful sense of humor? Back to top The OTHER Kevin in San Di Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 13:51:33 GMT, Don W <donw_s11atswbelldotnet (AT) figure (DOT) it.out> wrote: Quote: The problem I've got right now is that the closest FBO with helicopters for rent is more than an hours drive from my house. Also, as I've learned more about the R22, I've become a skeptic about its low-inertia rotor system. Yeah, it's low-inertia, but if you're on your game, it's not a big deal to auto a '22. I happen to like flying it. It's kinda like flying a little sportscar... Back to top Maxwell Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) "Don W" <donw_s11atswbelldotnet (AT) figure (DOT) it.out> wrote in message news:FtKVh.1187$H_.83 (AT) newssvr21 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... Quote: Maxwell wrote: I don't kill file anything, but I do delete it. There used to be some really good discussions on here. What is your interest in rotorcraft? I'm a long time fixed winger (c 1973) who started flying helicopters two years ago and loved it. Except for the expensive hourly rate, I'd a lot rather be flying a heli for sightseeing/pleasure flights. Of course, the fixed wing wins when you need to travel somewhere, or when the conditions are IFR. The problem I've got right now is that the closest FBO with helicopters for rent is more than an hours drive from my house. Also, as I've learned more about the R22, I've become a skeptic about its low-inertia rotor system. I got my FW PPL in 72 myself, but have yet to fly a helo. I have a school just a few miles away with a Bell 47. Keep telling myself I'm going to do it, even dropped by to see them a few years ago, but just never followed up. Interesting they give instruction, but don't carry insurance for rental. Back to top Ol Shy & Bashful Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Flight Time - Student ;) On Apr 19, 10:40 pm, "Maxwell" <luv2fl...@cox.net> wrote: Quote: "Don W" <donw_s11atswbelldot...@figure.it.out> wrote in message news:FtKVh.1187$H_.83 (AT) newssvr21 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... Maxwell wrote: I don't kill file anything, but I do delete it. There used to be some really good discussions on here. What is your interest in rotorcraft? I'm a long time fixed winger (c 1973) who started flying helicopters two years ago and loved it. Except for the expensive hourly rate, I'd a lot rather be flying a heli for sightseeing/pleasure flights. Of course, the fixed wing wins when you need to travel somewhere, or when the conditions are IFR. The problem I've got right now is that the closest FBO with helicopters for rent is more than an hours drive from my house. Also, as I've learned more about the R22, I've become a skeptic about its low-inertia rotor system. I got my FW PPL in 72 myself, but have yet to fly a helo. I have a school just a few miles away with a Bell 47. Keep telling myself I'm going to do it, even dropped by to see them a few years ago, but just never followed up. Interesting they give instruction, but don't carry insurance for rental.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Where is the school with the Bell 47? Not many such schools left anymore. 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