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robertnromano@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote



My friend owns a 77 172N. Eats Landing lights. A real pain to change
with the cowling.

I recently read in an old copy of Aviation Consumer Buyers guide that
some of the N models are known to do this and that there's a Landing
Light Improvement Kit from Cessna.

I could not find one online

Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.

As a newbie - dont know. But I know someone must know the info for a
172! Thx
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote



"robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com> writes:


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thx! I also got an offline email about a halogen replacement with a
longer life, and one they think is more resistant to vibration.
Appreciate the info.


Of course, the big improvement would be filament-less lamps;
aka gas-discharge. Someone here will know the name.....

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& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote



In article <1176499266.081685.279180 (AT) w1g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com>,
"robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.

I don't know if this is the kit you are referring to, I believe there is
one available that moves the landing light to the wing.
The vibration of the cowling breaks the hot filament/kills the landing
lights.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

On Apr 13, 3:21 pm, john smith <johnsm...@net.net> wrote:
Quote:
In article <1176499266.081685.279...@w1g2000hsg.googlegroups.com>,

"robertnrom...@gmail.com" <robertnrom...@gmail.com> wrote:
Does anyone know of the kit? Or another solution.

I don't know if this is the kit you are referring to, I believe there is
one available that moves the landing light to the wing.
The vibration of the cowling breaks the hot filament/kills the landing
lights.

thx! I also got an offline email about a halogen replacement with a
longer life, and one they think is more resistant to vibration.
Appreciate the info.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com <robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
My friend owns a 77 172N. Eats Landing lights. A real pain to change
with the cowling.

Searching this group
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.owning/search?group=rec.aviation.owning&q=cessna+landing+light
shows several possible solutions, including a halogen lamp, a kit from
Cessna to improve the mounting of the existing lamp, aftermarket kits
to move the lamp to the wing, and aftermarket HID lamp kits.

Matt Roberds
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Andrew Gideon
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 01:11:10 +0000, mroberds wrote:


Quote:

Searching this group
http://groups.google.com/group/rec.aviation.owning/search?group=rec.aviation.owning&q=cessna+landing+light
shows several possible solutions, including a halogen lamp, a kit from
Cessna to improve the mounting of the existing lamp, aftermarket kits to
move the lamp to the wing, and aftermarket HID lamp kits.

We did an HID upgrade on one of our 172s. It's nice; no need to worry
about bulb life, so it's basically always on in flight.

But this was wing-mounted (a P model, I think). We've also an N (and some
other planes with cowl-mounted lights), and - when I last looked - the HID
wasn't STCed for cowl-mounting.

On the other hand, it was anticipated, so perhaps it has occurred by now.

- Andrew
http://flyingclub.org/
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robertnromano@gmail.com
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

Thx - will do
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Matt Barrow
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

<robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Thx - will do


Will do what?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:23 am    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

Quote:

Thx - will do

Will do what?

will look into HID - thx.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

<robertnromano (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Thx - will do

Will do what?

will look into HID - thx.

IIRC, a Halogen bulb is suspectible to the same problems that a filament
bulb is. A Xenon light system is not.

Best case is LCDs and Xenon.
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Peter Clark
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:47:23 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
<mbarrow (AT) performancehomes (DOT) com> wrote:


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Best case is LCDs and Xenon.

Can I get a 53" landing light please? Wink
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David Lesher
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:31 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

"Matt Barrow" <mbarrow (AT) performancehomes (DOT) com> writes:


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IIRC, a Halogen bulb is suspectible to the same problems that a filament
bulb is. A Xenon light system is not.

A Halogen IS a filament lamp. [GE Nela Park will tell you bulbs are
for tulips; they sell *lamps*...]

The halogen magic has to do with with gas in the envelope. See
the Wikipedia entry on same...

--
A host is a host from coast to coast.................wb8foz (AT) nrk (DOT) com
& no one will talk to a host that's close........[v].(301) 56-LINUX
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433
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Matt Barrow
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

"Peter Clark" <Invalidi (AT) NotIn (DOT) YourLifetime.com.hatespam> wrote in message
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Quote:
On Fri, 20 Apr 2007 06:47:23 -0700, "Matt Barrow"
mbarrow (AT) performancehomes (DOT) com> wrote:


Best case is LCDs and Xenon.

Can I get a 53" landing light please? Wink

Sure! How many AMU's you willing to spend? :~)
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Matt Barrow
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

"David Lesher" <wb8foz (AT) panix (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Quote:
"Matt Barrow" <mbarrow (AT) performancehomes (DOT) com> writes:


IIRC, a Halogen bulb is suspectible to the same problems that a filament
bulb is. A Xenon light system is not.

A Halogen IS a filament lamp.
Which is why I prefer Xenon.
[GE Nela Park will tell you bulbs are
for tulips; they sell *lamps*...]

Nerds! :~)

Quote:
The halogen magic has to do with with gas in the envelope. See
the Wikipedia entry on same...

When refering to HID, what is the difference between Halogen and Xenon?

I had these on my Bo, and am waiting for an STC for the new bird.

http://speedmods.com/Boom_Beam/boom_beam_systems.htm
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: C172N Eats Landing lights for breakfast Reply with quote

On Sat, 21 Apr 2007 08:31:50 -0700, Matt Barrow wrote:

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Nerds! :~)

One of my SCUBA instructors was very strict: they are cylinders; tanks are
mobile weapons.

Go call him a nerd <laugh>.

- Andrew

P.S. It suddenly occurs to me: my best instructors have been
pedantic.
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