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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:29 pm    Post subject: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote



Used the newly revived Glasgow to London City route this week, so I
thought it might be worth a report.

I did a day return on Thursday this week, leaving on the 07:00 flight
and returning on the 18:00.

Outward bound there was very little to remark on, BA are using the RJ100
fleet for this service, in reality because there is no room to park
aircraft overnight at LCY and they want to expand their services from
there. The Glasgow flights are a side effect, and a very welcome one for
me. Not seen any publicity or promotion as yet, but the fares are very
low, if you don't choose the 18:30 to fly back on! Anyway, the flight
boarded on time from Gate 20 and we were ready at 07:00, however the
slot time allocated was 07:25 and we sat for 20 mins before pushback.
This is frustratingly common these days. It was about 40% loaded, I
counted 45 passengers, so not good loads. The usual breakfast in flight
and a five minute late arrival at City. As it is such a small airport I
was out and on the DLR to the office within 7 minutes of arrival.

The return was not a nice experience. City is getting very crowded in
the peak evening departure and Thursday was the worst I have
experienced. The security queue snaked all the way from the escalator
away from security through the business centre (for those of you that
know LCY) and then back past the escalator. Eventually the escalator was
blocked but was not switched off, very unsafe with people arriving into
a crush at the top and not being able to walk off! I would judge that
the airport is now beyond its capacity at this peak evening time (16:50
when I arrived). Eventually getting through (it took 25 mins), the
flight was called at Gate 2c, and we were kept in the crushed little
gate area for more than 20 minutes, not a good experience. The return
was well filled with more than 80 passengers (I think these RJs have 102
seats?) and most surprisingly a hot evening meal was served, something
long gone on the Gatwick flights. An on time arrival at Glasgow
completes the picture.

Nice that these flights are back - it makes my life much easier. I
recommend taking a look at them for London trips if you are booking in
advance as this return cost me only £114 inclusive. Remember London City
is closed on Saturdays and shuts early at night.





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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote



On Mar 31, 9:29 am, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Used the newly revived Glasgow to London City route this week, so I
thought it might be worth a report.

I did a day return on Thursday this week, leaving on the 07:00 flight
and returning on the 18:00.

Outward bound there was very little to remark on, BA are using the RJ100
fleet for this service, in reality because there is no room to park
aircraft overnight at LCY and they want to expand their services from
there. The Glasgow flights are a side effect, and a very welcome one for
me. Not seen any publicity or promotion as yet, but the fares are very
low, if you don't choose the 18:30 to fly back on! Anyway, the flight
boarded on time from Gate 20 and we were ready at 07:00, however the
slot time allocated was 07:25 and we sat for 20 mins before pushback.
This is frustratingly common these days. It was about 40% loaded, I
counted 45 passengers, so not good loads. The usual breakfast in flight
and a five minute late arrival at City. As it is such a small airport I
was out and on the DLR to the office within 7 minutes of arrival.

The return was not a nice experience. City is getting very crowded in
the peak evening departure and Thursday was the worst I have
experienced. The security queue snaked all the way from the escalator
away from security through the business centre (for those of you that
know LCY) and then back past the escalator. Eventually the escalator was
blocked but was not switched off, very unsafe with people arriving into
a crush at the top and not being able to walk off! I would judge that
the airport is now beyond its capacity at this peak evening time (16:50
when I arrived). Eventually getting through (it took 25 mins), the
flight was called at Gate 2c, and we were kept in the crushed little
gate area for more than 20 minutes, not a good experience. The return
was well filled with more than 80 passengers (I think these RJs have 102
seats?) and most surprisingly a hot evening meal was served, something
long gone on the Gatwick flights. An on time arrival at Glasgow
completes the picture.

Nice that these flights are back - it makes my life much easier. I
recommend taking a look at them for London trips if you are booking in
advance as this return cost me only £114 inclusive. Remember London City
is closed on Saturdays and shuts early at night.

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Good to hear of a better load on the return flight John. Security at
LCY sounds chaotic! I think the RJ's hold 110 passengers.

Gaz
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 1:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote



"John Reid" <news (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dOr36bLpvhDGFwIM (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk...
Quote:

Used the newly revived Glasgow to London City route this week, so I
thought it might be worth a report.

I did a day return on Thursday this week, leaving on the 07:00
flight and returning on the 18:00.

Hi John

Thanks for the report. Well I am sure that the loads will increase,
the prices certainly have started to go up that's for sure, a good
sign. I know that on my next Milan trip I am going to try and route
via LCY ;-)

regards
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

GLAGAZ wrote in message
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Quote:
Good to hear of a better load on the return flight John. Security at
LCY sounds chaotic! I think the RJ's hold 110 passengers.

Gaz, I am pleased that the peak loads are good, as it might help to
ensure that the flights stay around this time. Thanks for the info on
the RJs, I know there are 19 rows, but they are not all of six!

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

John Dundas wrote in message <wqydnVZ-W-FMg5PbnZ2dnUVZ8vydnZ2d (AT) bt (DOT) com> :
Quote:
I know that on my next Milan trip I am going to try and route via LCY
Wink

I detect an ulterior motive here John Wink but I do recommend you give it
a try. It is certainly no more expensive than any other London route,
although not as convenient or cost effective as a direct, if you can get
one.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On Mar 31, 10:25 am, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
John Dundas wrote in message <wqydnVZ-W-FMg5PbnZ2dnUVZ8vydn...@bt.com> :
I know that on my next Milan trip I am going to try and route via LCY
;-)

I detect an ulterior motive here John Wink but I do recommend you give it
a try. It is certainly no more expensive than any other London route,
although not as convenient or cost effective as a direct, if you can get
one.

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John
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I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on
the Stansted Express I asked for the city Airport flights. I have a
small question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on
the Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a
return ticket that works on the DLR and Underground.

Cheers

Ian
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On Mar 31, 11:39 am, "snapper" <ian.a...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
Quote:
On Mar 31, 10:25 am, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:

John Dundas wrote in message <wqydnVZ-W-FMg5PbnZ2dnUVZ8vydn...@bt.com> :
I know that on my next Milan trip I am going to try and route via LCY
;-)

I detect an ulterior motive here John Wink but I do recommend you give it
a try. It is certainly no more expensive than any other London route,
although not as convenient or cost effective as a direct, if you can get
one.

--
John
Mail sent to the reply address in the headers will not be received.
Please ask me for a valid email address if you want to send me mail. Thanks.

I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on
the Stansted Express I asked for the city Airport flights. I have a
small question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on
the Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a
return ticket that works on the DLR and Underground.

http://www.tfl.gov.uk/modalpages/2632.aspx
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

snapper wrote in message
<1175337559.456098.231360 (AT) e65g2000hsc (DOT) googlegroups.com> :
Quote:
I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for the city Airport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground.

Ian,

Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) at
www.tfl.gov.uk. For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office at London City Airport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.

On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith and City or
District. That route keeps you out of central London.

Hope this helps!



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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On Mar 31, 9:29 am, John Reid <n...@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
Used the newly revived Glasgow to London City route this week, so I
thought it might be worth a report.

I did a day return on Thursday this week, leaving on the 07:00 flight
and returning on the 18:00.

Outward bound there was very little to remark on, BA are using the RJ100
fleet for this service, in reality because there is no room to park
aircraft overnight at LCY and they want to expand their services from
there. The Glasgow flights are a side effect, and a very welcome one for
me. Not seen any publicity or promotion as yet...

I've seen several BA 'Thistle' style adverts on various bus shelters
in Glasgow City Centre
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

14:59, John Reid wrote:
Quote:
snapper wrote

I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for the city Airport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground. Ian,

Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) atwww.tfl.gov.uk.
For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office at London City Airport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.
On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith and City or
District. That route keeps you out of central London. Hope this helps! John

The Oyster card is a great idea IMHO. With some cash still on your
card you
can hit the ground running without waiting to get a ticket. The snag I
for me
is that the sensors you touch the card on at the beginning and end of
your
journey are sometimes hard to spot on the DLR. At LCY for example they
are beside the escalator on the level below the platform. On the
Underground proper there is usually no problem - except at Earl's
Court - where they are well away from the platform exit.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:40 am    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On 31 Mar, 17:59, be_posit...@my-deja.com wrote:
Quote:
14:59, John Reid wrote:





snapper wrote
I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for thecityAirport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground. Ian,
Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) atwww.tfl.gov.uk.
For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office atLondonCityAirport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.
On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith andCityor
District. That route keeps you out of centralLondon. Hope this helps! John

The Oyster card is a great idea IMHO. With some cash still on your
card you
can hit the ground running without waiting to get a ticket. The snag I
for me
is that the sensors you touch the card on at the beginning and end of
your
journey are sometimes hard to spot on the DLR. At LCY for example they
are beside the escalator on the level below the platform. On the
Underground proper there is usually no problem - except at Earl's
Court - where they are well away from the platform exit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could anyone tell me what is the best way to get from LCY to Waterloo
International?
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On May 11, 8:40 pm, Easy <james170...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On 31 Mar, 17:59, be_posit...@my-deja.com wrote:



14:59, John Reid wrote:

snapper wrote
I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for thecityAirport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground. Ian,
Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) atwww.tfl.gov.uk.
For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office atLondonCityAirport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.
On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith andCityor
District. That route keeps you out of centralLondon. Hope this helps! John

The Oyster card is a great idea IMHO. With some cash still on your
card you
can hit the ground running without waiting to get a ticket. The snag I
for me
is that the sensors you touch the card on at the beginning and end of
your
journey are sometimes hard to spot on the DLR. At LCY for example they
are beside the escalator on the level below the platform. On the
Underground proper there is usually no problem - except at Earl's
Court - where they are well away from the platform exit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could anyone tell me what is the best way to get from LCY to Waterloo
International?

www.tfl.gov.uk
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Damian
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On 11 May, 20:54, Zippy <kwa0...@hotmail.com> wrote:
Quote:
On May 11, 8:40 pm, Easy <james170...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:





On 31 Mar, 17:59, be_posit...@my-deja.com wrote:

14:59, John Reid wrote:

snapper wrote
I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for thecityAirport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground. Ian,
Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) atwww.tfl.gov.uk.
For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office atLondonCityAirport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.
On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith andCityor
District. That route keeps you out of centralLondon. Hope this helps! John

The Oyster card is a great idea IMHO. With some cash still on your
card you
can hit the ground running without waiting to get a ticket. The snag I
for me
is that the sensors you touch the card on at the beginning and end of
your
journey are sometimes hard to spot on the DLR. At LCY for example they
are beside the escalator on the level below the platform. On the
Underground proper there is usually no problem - except at Earl's
Court - where they are well away from the platform exit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could anyone tell me what is the best way to get from LCY to Waterloo
International?

www.tfl.gov.uk- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Try the DLR to Canary Wharf, then the Jubilee Line to Waterloo.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 1:01 am    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On 11 May, 20:57, Damian <damianlea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On 11 May, 20:54, Zippy <kwa0...@hotmail.com> wrote:





On May 11, 8:40 pm, Easy <james170...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

On 31 Mar, 17:59, be_posit...@my-deja.com wrote:

14:59, John Reid wrote:

snapper wrote
I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for thecityAirport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground. Ian,
Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) atwww.tfl.gov.uk.
For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office atLondonCityAirport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.
On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith andCityor
District. That route keeps you out of centralLondon. Hope this helps! John

The Oyster card is a great idea IMHO. With some cash still on your
card you
can hit the ground running without waiting to get a ticket. The snag I
for me
is that the sensors you touch the card on at the beginning and end of
your
journey are sometimes hard to spot on the DLR. At LCY for example they
are beside the escalator on the level below the platform. On the
Underground proper there is usually no problem - except at Earl's
Court - where they are well away from the platform exit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could anyone tell me what is the best way to get from LCY to Waterloo
International?

www.tfl.gov.uk-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Try the DLR to Canary Wharf, then the Jubilee Line to Waterloo.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually a change to the Jubilee at Canning Town might work better. I
don't recall if the DLR trains go direct to Canary Wharf or whether
they go to Bank/Tower Gateway.

An alternative: ride the DLR to Bank and switch to the Waterloo & City
line.
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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Trip report GLA-LCY-GLA Reply with quote

On 11 May, 21:01, Damian <damianlea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Quote:
On 11 May, 20:57, Damian <damianlea...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:





On 11 May, 20:54, Zippy <kwa0...@hotmail.com> wrote:

On May 11, 8:40 pm, Easy <james170...@hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

On 31 Mar, 17:59, be_posit...@my-deja.com wrote:

14:59, John Reid wrote:

snapper wrote
I have just booked a Tuesday day return for July. My office wanted me
to go Easyjet to Stansted but after a nightmare jurney last time on the
Stansted Express I asked for thecityAirport flights. I have a small
question for you guys I need to get to Aldgate East Station on the
Hamersmith Line. What is the easiest route and can you buy a return
ticket that works on the DLR and Underground. Ian,
Tickets are interchangeable between the DLR and Underground. The fare
system is integrated. More information (and the route planner) atwww.tfl.gov.uk.
For the lowest fare I would recommend getting a pay as
you go Oyster card, as this reduces fares by up to 50% on many on the
journeys I make. If you dont want to do that, there are ticket machines
and a ticket office atLondonCityAirport station which is just outside
the main door of the airport. You can buy a return or a travelcard at
the machines or the office.
On the route I think I would go DLR to Canning Town, change to the
Jubilee for one stop to West Ham and then the Hammersmith andCityor
District. That route keeps you out of centralLondon. Hope this helps! John

The Oyster card is a great idea IMHO. With some cash still on your
card you
can hit the ground running without waiting to get a ticket. The snag I
for me
is that the sensors you touch the card on at the beginning and end of
your
journey are sometimes hard to spot on the DLR. At LCY for example they
are beside the escalator on the level below the platform. On the
Underground proper there is usually no problem - except at Earl's
Court - where they are well away from the platform exit.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Could anyone tell me what is the best way to get from LCY to Waterloo
International?

www.tfl.gov.uk-Hidequoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Try the DLR to Canary Wharf, then the Jubilee Line to Waterloo.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Actually a change to the Jubilee at Canning Town might work better. I
don't recall if the DLR trains go direct to Canary Wharf or whether
they go to Bank/Tower Gateway.

An alternative: ride the DLR to Bank and switch to the Waterloo & City
line.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Many thanks for your replies Damian. How long should the journey take?
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