AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  First impressions of flight          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Mxsmanic Guest Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: First impressions of flight What did you notice most during your very first experience travelling in any type of airplane, as passenger or pilot? And if you are a pilot, what did you notice most during your very first experience actually flying an airplane (if it was not also your very first experience with flight)? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. Back to top MxMORON Guest Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: RE: First impressions of flight Quote: What did you notice most during your very first experience travelling in any type of airplane, as passenger or pilot? And if you are a pilot, what did you notice most during your very first experience actually flying an airplane (if it was not also your very first experience with flight)? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. I noticed it was EXACTLY like Microsoft Flight Simulator. There are no differences at all. It's really the same thing. Back to top Guest Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 3:06 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight On Tue, 27 Mar 2007 22:16:05 +0200, Mxsmanic <mxsmanic (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: What did you notice most during your very first experience travelling in any type of airplane, as passenger or pilot? And if you are a pilot, what did you notice most during your very first experience actually flying an airplane (if it was not also your very first experience with flight)? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. I was shocked I didn't smoke during my first solo. But after was another story Daveb Back to top Mxsmanic Guest Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 5:07 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight (DaveB) writes: Quote: I was shocked I didn't smoke during my first solo. They say that if you are doing something unusual and you are reasonably occupied, you're less likely to resort to nervous habits, which can include smoking. Quote: But after was another story You smoked more than usual? Why? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. Back to top Darkwing Guest Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight "Mxsmanic" <mxsmanic (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vpui03t51p6p9cv70697740n4tjbf7n1u6 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Quote: What did you notice most during your very first experience travelling in any type of airplane, as passenger or pilot? And if you are a pilot, what did you notice most during your very first experience actually flying an airplane (if it was not also your very first experience with flight)? -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. This is such a moronic question. Tell me how you fell Rex Grossman losing the Super Bowl? Who do you think you are MX, Barbara Walters?? Complete ass. -------------------------------------- DW Back to top Mxsmanic Guest Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight "Darkwing" <theducksmail"AT"yahoo.com> writes: Quote: This is such a moronic question. I consider it an intelligent question and relevant to the group, and I've seen one or two intelligent replies. Unfortunately, I cannot say the same about your reply. Quote: Tell me how you fell Rex Grossman losing the Super Bowl? I don't know who Rex Grossman is, or what the Super Bowl is. Quote: Who do you think you are MX, Barbara Walters?? I don't know anything about Barbara Walters, either. I suppose I can answer my own question, though, just to encourage the intelligent people to reply: My very first experience was as a passenger on a Southwest Airlines 737-200. I was most surprised by the apparent flimsiness of the aircraft. I had previously been in non-moving aircraft on the ground many years earlier, but this flimsiness was much more obvious in a moving aircraft. Of course, I realized that the aircraft was not actually flimsy and that it was strong for its weight, but it was still subjectively surprising. The efforts to keep things lightweight inside the cabin (seats, inner window panels, etc.) were obvious (and understandable). I was surprised by how rough the roll down the runway was; I had assumed that runways were very smooth. I was surprised by how much the aircraft moved in the air (I had imagined a glassy-smooth ride, like a slow-moving train), and by the magnitude of the movements at times. I was also amazed by the extreme noisiness of the aircraft. I was surprised by how easily I could hear things like gear retraction and extension, and movement of flaps, and so on. I had steeled myself for a potentially unpleasant experience, as I knew that many people are afraid of flying and I thought perhaps there were good reasons for that. However, I thought it was all great fun. Take-off was the best part, followed by landing. I experienced no motion sickness, and the view out the window was fine, not bothering me in the least even in turns and when slicing through cloudtops. I take this as a reliable sign that I have a strong fundamental interest in aviation. I have never flown an aircraft in real life, so I can't comment on that, although I've sat in various cockpits from time to time (including 747 cockpits). -- Transpose mxsmanic and gmail to reach me by e-mail. Back to top ManhattanMan Guest Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight Bertie the Bunyip wrote: Quote: Good god. You need to adjust your dosage. Up to OD 2X................ Or higher, just to be on the safe side (for us)....... MnM (used to be CRaSH:) Back to top Peter Dohm Guest Posted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight Quote: I couldn't find the "pause" button. The frame rate was really good, and all the autogen was turned on. I also liked the multi-screen 3-d effect, and the true-motion... Back to top Dave Doe Guest Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 6:04 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight In article <qs6o03tkstdbl4q3dfstlic96kf39d58ur (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, mxsmanic (AT) gmail (DOT) com says... Quote: Dave Doe writes: Real life? You do know what "simulator" means don't you? In a good simulation, you forget that it's simulation until it's over. And so by your definition that's real life. My theory's confirmed, thank you. -- Duncan Back to top Roger Guest Posted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight On 1 Apr 2007 03:39:45 -0700, "Ir. Hj. Othman bin Hj. Ahmad" <othmana (AT) lycos (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: On Mar 31, 2:36 am, "James M. Knox" <j...@trisoft.com> wrote: Mxsmanic <mxsma...@gmail.com> wrote innews:qs6o03tkstdbl4q3dfstlic96kf39d58ur (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Dave Doe writes: Real life? You do know what "simulator" means don't you? In a good simulation, you forget that it's simulation until it's over. I recall MANY years ago talking with a programmer from NASA, who had worked on the original moon landing simulations. All this ran in real-time, i.e. a two week launch to landing really took two weeks. He said after a while it would get to seem so real, that when the lunar lander finally touched down (all simulated, of course) everyone in the control room would break into wild cheers and start looking for the champagne bottles. <G Hopefully, simulation should be accepted and cheaper than real flying hours. At the moment, it may be more expensive to do simulation than flying for real. If they can reduce the cost of getting PPL license to less than 10%, it will just cost more than 3 times getting a car license. It will truly make the flying car a reality. Malaysia already promote one house one plane. I surely love to see that day. Actually hardware cost-wise, it is already affordable. Only certifications and trainings that are unclear and expensive. Actually, I'll make a prediction: The flying car and there has been at least one that worked, will never become a true reality. I don't think they are viable for several reasons even if they could be made for half the cost of a car, or even free. In the US alone we kill off over 43,000 people a year while maiming and injuring many times that with the automobile in a two dimensional environment. That would mean the flying car, if deployed on more than a very small scale would require almost total automation as far as flight. That would be expensive. Take off and landing areas would have to be limited and imagine the traffic control required even with an automated system. That would be truely expensive on a massive scale. On top of that imagine the chaos when the inevitable failures happened in the traffic control system. Traffic routes would have to be limited and they certainly would be after the first few dropped through some ones roof due to an error either mechanical, electronic, or human. With millions of them deployed, borders would become meaningless even with a shoot down policy. OTOH deployed on a world wide scale they might solve the population problems. What I do see happening eventually it the automated car where you get in tell it where you want to go and it goes. However even that has to be made to coexist with current brainless drivers. Quote: ----------------------------------------------- James M. Knox TriSoft ph 512-385-0316 1300 Koenig Lane West fax512-371-5716 Suite 200 Austin, Tx 78756 j...@trisoft.com ----------------------------------------------- Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Back to top Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight On Mar 30, 11:36 am, "James M. Knox" <j...@trisoft.com> wrote: Quote: I recall MANY years ago talking with a programmer from NASA, who had worked on the originalmoonlandingsimulations. All this ran in real-time, i.e. a two week launch tolandingreally took two weeks. He said after a while it would get to seem so real, that when the lunar lander finally touched down (all simulated, of course) everyone in the control room would break into wild cheers and start looking for the champagne bottles. <G There were no such manned moon landings. How much proof of your having been snookered would you like? - Brad Guth Back to top george Guest Posted: Sun Apr 08, 2007 1:47 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight On Apr 8, 8:15 am, bradg...@gmail.com wrote: Quote: There were no such manned moon landings. How much proof of your having been snookered would you like? - mxsmanic has competition Back to top Roger Guest Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: First impressions of flight On 7 Apr 2007 13:47:32 -0700, "george" <gblack (AT) hnpl (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: On Apr 8, 8:15 am, bradg...@gmail.com wrote: There were no such manned moon landings. How much proof of your having been snookered would you like? - mxsmanic has competition Yah, but at least the squirrels aren't going to starve Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) All times are GMT Page 1 of 1   Jump to: Select a forum Aviation----------------alt.aviationAviation safety EnhancementPlanes, gliders and flying in AustraliaAviation et pilotage (Français)rec.aviationAviation (Aerobatics)Hot air, gas balloons and airshipsHang-gliding, paragliding, foot-launched flightAircraft Design & BuildingInstrument Flight RulesAviation (Classifieds)Military AircraftNaval AviationAviation (Miscellaneous Topics)Owning AirplanesAviators (General Discussions)Aviation related productsAircraft RestorationHelicopters and rotary wing aircraftsFlight SimulationSailplanesAviation (Students)Light aircraftFlying related activities in the UK Airports----------------alt.airportsEdinburgh Airport Glasgow Airport Humberside Airport Luton Airport Aberdeen Airport Glasgow Prestwick Airport  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.