AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Learning to fly on an H1b?          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message shackledragger@gmail.com Guest Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:19 am    Post subject: Learning to fly on an H1b? I'm in the USA on an H1b visa related to the computing field, I was wondering if anyone in my situation has been successful with https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/ ? Their FAQ suggests that I may not be eligible as I'm here to work not train, anyone been through this before I spend the money to find out? Cheers. Back to top john smith Guest Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? In article <1174943951.221109.147910 (AT) p77g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "shackledragger (AT) gmail (DOT) com" <shackledragger (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: I'm in the USA on an H1b visa related to the computing field, I was wondering if anyone in my situation has been successful with https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/ ? Their FAQ suggests that I may not be eligible as I'm here to work not train, anyone been through this before I spend the money to find out? Will your H1B Homeland Security Check count towards the one required for flight instruction? Back to top shackledragger@gmail.com Guest Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? On Mar 26, 8:59 pm, john smith <johnsm...@net.net> wrote: Quote: Will your H1B Homeland Security Check count towards the one required for flight instruction? No, that has already been done, I've been living in the states for 5 years now, I have no worries about passing the check, the question really is as I am here on an H1b temporary worker visa will learning to fly violate this visa as technically I will be 'training' not working... I can't find this information on their website, no one is answering the phone or returning calls at either AFSP or USCIS, I'm just trying to avoid spending the $130 on the check if it will be denied for this reason, if so I guess I'll have to continue soaring. Cheers. https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/afsp_faq.htm#C11 11. What happens if I take flight training without having the proper visa? Taking flight training without an appropriate visa is a violation of your immigration status and could result in your arrest and removal from the United States; therefore, it is important that you have a visa that permits you to take flight training in the United States. If you do not possess the correct visa, or if you have questions pertaining to your visa status or the appropriate visas for flight training, please contact The Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (http://www.uscis.gov), and the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (www.ice.gov) or the State Department Consular Affairs Office for assistance. The AFSP will deny flight training requests from Candidates who are present in the United States illegally or who do not have an appropriate visa for flight training. Fees paid for denied applications are not refundable. Back to top Robert M. Gary Guest Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? On Mar 26, 6:28 pm, "BT" <bNOt...@SPAM.cox.net> wrote: Quote: the only person that can tell you is the people that issued the original work VISA.. But learning to fly as a recreational endeavor should not be a factor. I am not a VISA expert. I think he may have problems. The TSA says you must have a Visa that permits flight training. But an H1 only permits working. -Robert Back to top BT Guest Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? the only person that can tell you is the people that issued the original work VISA.. But learning to fly as a recreational endeavor should not be a factor. I am not a VISA expert. B <shackledragger (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1174957938.434207.296770 (AT) n76g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com... Quote: On Mar 26, 8:59 pm, john smith <johnsm...@net.net> wrote: Will your H1B Homeland Security Check count towards the one required for flight instruction? No, that has already been done, I've been living in the states for 5 years now, I have no worries about passing the check, the question really is as I am here on an H1b temporary worker visa will learning to fly violate this visa as technically I will be 'training' not working... I can't find this information on their website, no one is answering the phone or returning calls at either AFSP or USCIS, I'm just trying to avoid spending the $130 on the check if it will be denied for this reason, if so I guess I'll have to continue soaring. Cheers. https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/afsp_faq.htm#C11 11. What happens if I take flight training without having the proper visa? Taking flight training without an appropriate visa is a violation of your immigration status and could result in your arrest and removal from the United States; therefore, it is important that you have a visa that permits you to take flight training in the United States. If you do not possess the correct visa, or if you have questions pertaining to your visa status or the appropriate visas for flight training, please contact The Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services (http://www.uscis.gov), and the Bureau of Immigration and Customs Enforcement (www.ice.gov) or the State Department Consular Affairs Office for assistance. The AFSP will deny flight training requests from Candidates who are present in the United States illegally or who do not have an appropriate visa for flight training. Fees paid for denied applications are not refundable. Back to top Journeyman Guest Posted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? On 2007-03-26, shackledragger (AT) gmail (DOT) com <shackledragger (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: I'm in the USA on an H1b visa related to the computing field, I was wondering if anyone in my situation has been successful with https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/ ? Their FAQ suggests that I may not be eligible as I'm here to work not train, anyone been through this before I spend the money to find out? AFAIK, if you're on an H1b, you need to be working to maintain your status. If, during your evenings and weekends, you want to persue flight training, you may do so if you get past the homeland security certification. I did more or less the same thing, but before 9/11, so YMMV. Morris Back to top Robert M. Gary Guest Posted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 1:13 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? On Mar 27, 9:46 am, Journeyman <journey...@compilerguru.com> wrote: Quote: On 2007-03-26, shackledrag...@gmail.com <shackledrag...@gmail.com> wrote: I'm in the USA on an H1b visa related to the computing field, I was wondering if anyone in my situation has been successful with https://www.flightschoolcandidates.gov/? Their FAQ suggests that I may not be eligible as I'm here to work not train, anyone been through this before I spend the money to find out? I happened to call AOPA this morning on an unrelated question, but I asked them about this. The guy I spoke to didn't have an answer about H1-B visas, but had 2 pointers. You can call the citizenship and immigration office at 800-375-5283. You can also check the AOPA homepage. On the right side of the page, there's a bar for quick links. It includes a link, "Guide to TSA's Alien Flight Training Rule". The only thing he said for sure was that, if the visa permits flight training, you would have to train at a part 141 school. Green card holders could train at part 61 or 141 schools. That sounds wrong. I'm a TSA certified foreign flight training provider and I've never been told I can't accept students on a visa. In fact I did have one student on a work visa (under part 61) but he was Canadian (the immigration rules for Canada are quiet different in many ways). I wonder if the answer depends on what stage of his residency the applicant is in. Most employeers begin the long process of gaining perm. residency for their employees because the H1 is very expensive to maintain (about 1/2 the programmers I work with are on H1). -Robert Back to top shackledragger@gmail.com Guest Posted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:12 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? Thanks for everyones input, I finally received a reply from AFSP (below) which states I cannot do it without going through the I-20 process which means I have to give up my H1 status, which I can't do, love my job . I managed to speak to a human at USCIS, they also stated this as fact. Barney Rubble: I'd really appreciate it if you could put me in contact with people that have done it, I seem to be hitting a brick wall.. Cheers. AFSP Help wrote: Quote: Dear Candidate, Unfortunately, the H1b visa is not appropriate for flight training. You will need to obtain a student visa in order to take flight training. Make sure to find a provider that can issue an I-20 for your visa. You might want to ask about this up front. Regards, AFSP Help Desk Candidate Website: www.flightschoolcandidates.gov Contact the AFSP Help Desk: 571-227-4544 Fax: 571-227-4532/4534 CRT2 Back to top shackledragger@gmail.com Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? On Apr 12, 12:51 pm, airst...@gmail.com wrote: Quote: Rubbish. I'm on H1B and have legally received flight training, passed Thanks to those that said go try, it took over a month of garbage but I finally received my approval. afsp.help (AT) dhs (DOT) gov wrote: Quote: All of the required information, including fingerprints, associated with the following Request for Training has been received. Based on information available at this time, the Transportation Security Administration grants Permission to Initiate Training for the following flight training request: Sweet! Back to top Robert M. Gary Guest Posted: Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Re: Learning to fly on an H1b? On Mar 29, 4:12 pm, "shackledrag...@gmail.com" <shackledrag...@gmail.com> wrote: Quote: Thanks for everyones input, I finally received a reply from AFSP (below) which states I cannot do it without going through the I-20 process which means I have to give up my H1 status, which I can't do, love my job . I managed to speak to a human at USCIS, they also stated this as fact. Barney Rubble: I'd really appreciate it if you could put me in contact with people that have done it, I seem to be hitting a brick wall.. Cheers. AFSP Help wrote: Dear Candidate, Unfortunately, the H1b visa is not appropriate for flight training. You will need to obtain a student visa in order to take flight training. Make sure to find a provider that can issue an I-20 for your visa. You might want to ask about this up front. Regards, AFSP Help Desk Candidate Website:www.flightschoolcandidates.gov Contact the AFSP Help Desk: 571-227-4544 Fax: 571-227-4532/4534 CRT2- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Are you working on your green card (we always try to get our guys on track for green cards as soon as possible because the H-1 is expensive to renew)?? 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