AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Screen freezing. Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Flight Simulation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message server Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Screen freezing. [ message unavailable ] Back to top adrian Guest Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:03 am    Post subject: Re:Screen freezing. Personally I'd say ditch the Sidewinder and go for a Saitek X52. But that's my opinion. Cheers, Adrian http://www.ausflightsim.net ______________________________________________________ Posted via the -Usenet Gateway- forums at http://www.ausflightsim.net Visit www.ausflightsim.net Downloads, Reviews, Tutorials, Community! *** Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com *** Back to top Lee Flatt Guest Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 3:05 am    Post subject: Re: 747 Sims Anybody..?? On Sat, 22 Apr 2006 01:35:16 GMT, "81mm" <res0n8e5 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> distributed a series of 1 and 0 translating to: Quote: Hello.., I'm an A&P mechanic with an IA, and I've been ask to teach some new AC Familiarization Courses (FAM) for newer mechanics. There's a course back in Florida for what we call "Taxi-Run-ups" per the 747 series given for around $3,500 dollars. But, who knows..?? I'm thinking maybe there's a flight sim program that would give me the basics before the real thing.?? SOooo, which program do you guys think in the best for "flying" the Boeing 747.?? I just bought a new HP computer with all the bells and whistles, to include a F2304 LCD monitor, stereo..!! Any tips out there..??!! I have used PS1.0 from the early days. Fantastic program, no new work is being done by the author. Great support at: http://744.hoppie.nl/forum.cgi Can be tied into FS for views. Was around $400.00 USD if my memory is correct. Back to top Matt E Guest Posted: Sun Sep 03, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: RE: REQ - Legitimate sources for Aircraft Flight Manuals For Harold_W: Outside of eBay, there are several sources for quality flight manuals online. Here are two: www.esscoaircraft.com Paper manuals - quick shipping - good service. www.techmanualdepot.com E-manuals and CBT software - good prices Happy Flight Simming ! Back to top CriticalMass Guest Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: Quote: the helicopters are way easier to fly than the real thing - especially the Robinsons. All helicopters are turbine powered and the flight models are tweaked to "emulate" piston power. Absolutely FALSE. If "real-world" helicopters "flew" anything like the models in FS2004, there wouldn't BE any "real-world" helo pilots - they'd all be dead by now. MS FlightSimulator doesn't come close to simulating helicopters. Back to top Heywood Jablowme Guest Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 6:12 am    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? As a real-world multi-thousand hour helo pilot, I can confirm what Critical mass says. M$2K4 flies nothing like a real helicopter. The models are awful. The closest thing to reality can be achieved with Janes Longbow2 on full realism. It's a PITA to get it to run on a WinXP box, but with tweaking it works great. CriticalMass <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: the helicopters are way easier to fly than the real thing - especially the Robinsons. All helicopters are turbine powered and the flight models are tweaked to "emulate" piston power. Absolutely FALSE. If "real-world" helicopters "flew" anything like the models in FS2004, there wouldn't BE any "real-world" helo pilots - they'd all be dead by now. MS FlightSimulator doesn't come close to simulating helicopters. |||||| (o o) oOOo-(_)-oOOo ___|___|___|___|___| ___|___|___|___|___| Kilroy was here, and he hates spammers... Tinasj The Anti-Spam Jihad LIVES !!! Lumber Cartel Member #857 [TINLC] Back to top Garrot Guest Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? Heywood Jablowme wrote: Quote: As a real-world multi-thousand hour helo pilot, I can confirm what Critical mass says. M$2K4 flies nothing like a real helicopter. The models are awful. The closest thing to reality can be achieved with Janes Longbow2 on full realism. It's a PITA to get it to run on a WinXP box, but with tweaking it works great. Have you ever flown Search&Rescue: Coastal Heroes? Some people say it is somewhat realistic so am interested in your opinion. There is a demo if you want to check it out. http://www.3dgamers.com/games/searchrescue4/ http://pc.iavgames.com/searchandrescue4/ Back to top The OTHER Kevin in San Di Guest Posted: Mon Sep 11, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:23:08 -0500, CriticalMass <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: the helicopters are way easier to fly than the real thing - especially the Robinsons. All helicopters are turbine powered and the flight models are tweaked to "emulate" piston power. Absolutely FALSE. If "real-world" helicopters "flew" anything like the models in FS2004, there wouldn't BE any "real-world" helo pilots - they'd all be dead by now. MS FlightSimulator doesn't come close to simulating helicopters. Isn't that what I had implied? While not a mutli-thousand hour helo pilot like heywood, I am a commercially rated heli pilot myself... Back to top CriticalMass Guest Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: Quote: On Sat, 09 Sep 2006 19:23:08 -0500, CriticalMass <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote: The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: the helicopters are way easier to fly than the real thing - especially the Robinsons. All helicopters are turbine powered and the flight models are tweaked to "emulate" piston power. Absolutely FALSE. If "real-world" helicopters "flew" anything like the models in FS2004, there wouldn't BE any "real-world" helo pilots - they'd all be dead by now. MS FlightSimulator doesn't come close to simulating helicopters. Isn't that what I had implied? While not a mutli-thousand hour helo pilot like heywood, I am a commercially rated heli pilot myself... Not the way I read your post. I, and numerous others, have repeatedly maintained they don't model real helos due to the nasty roll tendency built into the flight models that essentially make them unflyable at very low airspeeds. They're unrealistically HARDER to fly than the real thing, not easier, as you said. Back to top Garrot Guest Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 9:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? CriticalMass wrote: Quote: Not the way I read your post. I, and numerous others, have repeatedly maintained they don't model real helos due to the nasty roll tendency built into the flight models that essentially make them unflyable at very low airspeeds. They're unrealistically HARDER to fly than the real thing, not easier, as you said. Someone here try SAR4 that I posted about in my other post. I've flown LB2 many times and SAR4 feels similar in flight model. Back to top The OTHER Kevin in San Di Guest Posted: Tue Sep 12, 2006 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? On Tue, 12 Sep 2006 08:04:46 -0500, CriticalMass <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Not the way I read your post. I, and numerous others, have repeatedly maintained they don't model real helos due to the nasty roll tendency built into the flight models that essentially make them unflyable at very low airspeeds. They're unrealistically HARDER to fly than the real thing, not easier, as you said. Perhaps it's the flight controls I'm using.. I've got a full collective/cyclic/pedal setup (Home built) using Epic hardware and some Epic code/FSUIPC to "fake" some of the aerodynamics so I don't see the roll tendencies. Is this roll tendency present in 2002 and 2004? (I only have 2002) Back to top CriticalMass Guest Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: Quote: Perhaps it's the flight controls I'm using.. I've got a full collective/cyclic/pedal setup (Home built) using Epic hardware and some Epic code/FSUIPC to "fake" some of the aerodynamics so I don't see the roll tendencies. Is this roll tendency present in 2002 and 2004? (I only have 2002) Interesting. You may be on to something. I honestly can't remember far enough back to recall how FS02 was. I was referring to FS04, and it's definitely there. It's widely known and is a recognized and reported defect in the helo flight models. I've always been amazed that MS never bothered to patch it. This is a major contrast to the light single flight models in FS04, which are passably good, IMO. I'm FAA-rated for those, but not helos. I've never tried it with the kind of controls you have. I've always just used the best consumer joysticks I could find, force feedback ones from CH or MS. Attempting to lift off and hover IGE with the Bell, or any of the other ones, is pretty nearly impossible; the aircraft is immediately totally unstable, no matter how carefully you handle the stick, and there's a point in these uncommanded rolling tendencies where recovery is pretty much impossible, no matter how much control input is given. Same thing happens at any airspeed below about 40 kts, IIRC, and slowing to hover and land is the same deal. Pretty dicey. You should pick up a copy of FS04 and try it with your setup - I think the price is only $20-$30 now, can't remember what it was when I was at CompUSA last. Back to top CriticalMass Guest Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? Garrot wrote: Quote: Someone here try SAR4 that I posted about in my other post. I've flown LB2 many times and SAR4 feels similar in flight model. I d/l the demo and tried it. Didn't get far with it because it apparently won't recognize any more than mouse, keyboard and joystick x and y (roll and pitch). It doesn't see my rudder pedals, and I can't be bothered to fly with a mouse or keyboard. That's certainly not "realism", IMO. Not actually sure about the quality of the flight model. I didn't get that far. Back to top The OTHER Kevin in San Di Guest Posted: Thu Sep 14, 2006 8:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 06:41:29 -0500, CriticalMass <no (AT) spam (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: The OTHER Kevin in San Diego wrote: Perhaps it's the flight controls I'm using.. I've got a full collective/cyclic/pedal setup (Home built) using Epic hardware and some Epic code/FSUIPC to "fake" some of the aerodynamics so I don't see the roll tendencies. Is this roll tendency present in 2002 and 2004? (I only have 2002) Interesting. You may be on to something. I honestly can't remember far enough back to recall how FS02 was. I was referring to FS04, and it's definitely there. It's widely known and is a recognized and reported defect in the helo flight models. I've always been amazed that MS never bothered to patch it. This is a major contrast to the light single flight models in FS04, which are passably good, IMO. I'm FAA-rated for those, but not helos. I can fly airplanes, but am only rated for helos. Quote: I've never tried it with the kind of controls you have. I've always just used the best consumer joysticks I could find, force feedback ones from CH or MS. Attempting to lift off and hover IGE with the Bell, or any of the other ones, is pretty nearly impossible; the aircraft is immediately totally unstable, no matter how carefully you handle the stick, and there's a point in these uncommanded rolling tendencies where recovery is pretty much impossible, no matter how much control input is given. Same thing happens at any airspeed below about 40 kts, IIRC, and slowing to hover and land is the same deal. Pretty dicey. Now this I've never seen. I'm not doubting what you say, but yeah, that'd make flying the "sim" much more difficult than the real thing.. Quote: You should pick up a copy of FS04 and try it with your setup - I think the price is only $20-$30 now, can't remember what it was when I was at CompUSA last. I scrounged up a copy of 2004 yesterday so will install it and try flying it with just my sidewinder joystick and see what's what. I don't know if my Epic code will even work with 2004 as the research I did briefly last night indicates 2004's memory locations are handled a bit differently than 2002's.. I'll need to find a good list of offsets for 2004 if I wanna "upgrade" Back to top Garrot Guest Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Quality helicopter sim? CriticalMass wrote: Quote: I d/l the demo and tried it. Didn't get far with it because it apparently won't recognize any more than mouse, keyboard and joystick x and y (roll and pitch). It doesn't see my rudder pedals, and I can't be bothered to fly with a mouse or keyboard. That's certainly not "realism", IMO. Not actually sure about the quality of the flight model. I didn't get that far. I use a twist stick and I get rudder control, collective too. But I have the full game and never tried the demo. 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