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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Air Scooter a Farce??? Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Scooter a Farce??? Reply with quote



"Bob Moore" <rmoore16 (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
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Flyingmonk wrote

"If they're smart" they'd design in the ability to autorotate or have
power redondancy.

Well...you corrected Gig's "their", but being a fixed wing pilot,
I'm not sure what this "power redondancy" is in rotary wing talk.
Smile :-)

By having two, three or four engines like the Nolan brother's or the
Gen 4.


Yes, I know what "redunancy" means, how about "redonancy"? :-)

Bob

But.....do either of you know what "redundancy" is?

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Scooter a Farce??? Reply with quote



"Allen" <ha_smith57 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"Bob Moore" <rmoore16 (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com> wrote in message
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Flyingmonk wrote

"If they're smart" they'd design in the ability to autorotate or have
power redondancy.

Well...you corrected Gig's "their", but being a fixed wing pilot,
I'm not sure what this "power redondancy" is in rotary wing talk.
Smile :-)

By having two, three or four engines like the Nolan brother's or the
Gen 4.


Yes, I know what "redunancy" means, how about "redonancy"? :-)

Bob

But.....do either of you know what "redundancy" is?

allen



And this is why it is a bad idea to give people grief for typos in a
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Careless Linemen Reply with quote

John Ousterhout <Juliet-Oscar-Hotel-Uniform (AT) ousterhout (DOT) net> wrote in
news:8k7fg.755756$084.747941@attbi_s22:

Quote:
Montblack wrote:
Actually, in Oregon, it IS against the law to fuel your own airplane.
Can't fuel your own car either.

An exemption was passed for Aircraft Self-Service gas. But autos must
still wait for an attendant to fill their vehicle. Self-service fas has
been disapproved by the voters several times. It makes no sense to me,
but (we) Oregonians pride ourselves in being different.

Being lazy bums that can't pump their own gas isn't much to be
proud of. (speaking generally, not to you specifcally)

Brian
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Good use for old radial egines? Reply with quote

Gentleman, Gentleman, let's get our facts straight even though this
seems like a bad joke! Some might get confused! A radial engine is a
recipocating engine used long ago in WWI and WWII. The cylinders are
spaced equidistant around the periphery of a circle with the crank in
the center. All cylinders via pistons/rods are attached to the
centrally located crankshaft. At the end of the crankshaft, the
propellor was attached. A current day rotary engine is in no relation
to a radial engine. In a rotary engine, the rotor serves as the
cranshaft/pistons/rods of the conventional recipocating engine (i.e.
V8, V6, straight 6, radial, and inline 4 cylinders). The rotor rotates
like a cranshaft within a stationary housing like the conventional
cylinder block.

In either engine, the vibrations or harmonics are damped out through
weighted counter-balances or dampers. The dampers resist torsional
vibrations and the counter-balances resist eccentric vibrations. Thus,
vibrational harmonics are kept to a minimum through these devices.
Harmonics do still exist but are very small and manageable. Fluid
filled torsional dampers further reduce harmonics through the viscous
fluid as opposed to elastomeric dampers.

Now, did anyone learn anything! Smile
anybody43 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:
Quote:
Is it a radial or a rotary?!!!!

Most definitely a radial. A rotary is the Wangle (SP?) engine as in
the Mazda cars

True, however in the context of a radial engine, a rotary
is like a radial except that the crank is bolted to
the aeroplane/motorcycle and the cylinders to the
propeller/whatever. This seemed more exciting
in a motorbike and therefore surely more
desireable?

I suspect that rotary engines preceeded radials
and I am pretty sure that for example the WW1
Sopwith Camel used a rotary.


Googling has turned up what may be a rotary engined
motorbike from a while back (1920s).

http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/m/me/megola.htm
http://www.cybermotorcycle.com/euro/brands/megola.htm

Unfortunately it appears to be safely ensconsed
within the front wheel. Not very exciting?
Well, steering may prove to be exciting?
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Scooter a Farce??? Reply with quote

On Wed, 31 May 2006 13:34:15 GMT, Bob Moore <rmoore16 (AT) tampabay (DOT) rr.com>
wrote in <Xns97D46164F1262rmoore16tampabayrrco (AT) 65 (DOT) 32.5.122>::

Quote:

By having two, three or four engines like the Nolan brother's or the
Gen 4.


Yes, I know what "redunancy" means, how about "redonancy"? Smile

"Redonancy" means you're 2,3 or 4 times as likely to have an engine
quit. Smile
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Airbus to Expand Cockpit Automation Reply with quote

John wrote:
Quote:
European jet maker Airbus is taking an unprecedented step to expand
cockpit automation: onboard computers that will automatically maneuver
jetliners to avoid midair collisions, without any pilot input.

Known for its pioneering use of computers and software to push the
automation envelope, this time Airbus has decided to cross a new
threshold in replacing pilot decisions with computer commands. For the
first time, flight crews of Airbus planes will be instructed and trained
to rely on autopilots in most cases to escape an impending crash with
another airborne aircraft. Currently, all commercial pilots are required
to instantly disconnect the autopilot when they get an alert of such an
emergency, and manually put their plane into a climb or descent to avoid
the other aircraft.


http://online.wsj.com/public/article/SB114868117828864620-pgHVZtbrCV92Vgn8zgwXom60Hgg_20070527.html?mod=tff_main_tff_top
or http://tinyurl.com/lnlky

Yep, evolution:
Scarebus
Scarierbus
Scariestbus

Whats the difference between an A320 and a chainsaw? About 100 trees
a minute. (see the A320 autoland video if you don't get it)

:)
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Spotting Traffic Reply with quote

Andrew Gideon <ag7337 (AT) gideon (DOT) org> wrote:

Quote:
Where did AC write that TIS will be around for a while? It seems like the
Next Big Thing for traffic is ADS-B.

The article was titled, "Airborne Traffic Alerting: TIS Still the One to
Beat," and a sidebar titled, "Why TIS is Still a Good Bet." These articles
were in the November 2005 (volume 35, Number 11) issue of _Aviation
Consumer_.

Send me a working email address for a return gift in the form of some
random words that, if viewed under certain lighting conditions,
approximately resemble these articles, if you are interested.

pjricc @ gmail . com

--
Peter
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Spotting Traffic Reply with quote

On Tue, 02 May 2006 08:17:26 -0400, Peter R. wrote:

Quote:
Ron Lee <nospamronlee (AT) pcisys (DOT) net> wrote:

That assumes that this system will be around a while. Seems like it or
something like it is not long for this world so buying equipment to use
it may not be worth it.

The authors of _Aviation Consumer_ seem to disagree but no matter; I don't
really expect Paul to take my suggestion seriously anyway.

Where did AC write that TIS will be around for a while? It seems like the
Next Big Thing for traffic is ADS-B.

We're bouncing this around for our club aircraft now. TIS has wider
coverage today, but we're concerned about its longevity.

If we'd a failed transponder, the incremental cost for a mode S
transponder would be small enough that we'd do it. But to throw out a
perfectly good mode C transponder for something that will be replaced in a
relatively short time seems inefficient.

- Andrew
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Self Serve Fuel Warning Reply with quote

Quote:
Not at all. The difference between paying out .25 percent and charging
5% is 4.75. The different between not paying out .25 percent and
charging 5% is ... 5%, a difference of only .25%, nothing to get rich
on.

Flawed logic.

The difference between NOT reaping (raping?) the float on preauthorizations,
and *having* it, is 4.75%. (Or more.) Not a bad return on money that
doesn't belong to them in the first place.

Remember, when a purchase is preauth'd on a debit card, YOU don't have the
money (as the customer), nor do I (as the business). That money is in
"limbo" -- where only the bank can use it to their heart's content.
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Iowa City, IA
Pathfinder N56993
www.AlexisParkInn.com
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Careless Linemen Reply with quote

Everything you said + the only way to completely avoid such stuff is to
insist on doing it yourself.

As a taildragger guy, I long ago realized that if I didn't take care of
all ramp movements that the 'new guy' would end up puncturing my fabric
or worse. Heck, at larger airports I often seem to be the first
taildragger they've seen. e.g. "hey, you know our tow bar doesn't fit
on that" "yep, that's why I have to taxi it over to the weeds covered
tie downs"

Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
Quote:
Kyle Boatright wrote:

How do the rest of you deal with careless linemen? The kind who scratch
your airplane or chip the paint because they are either careless or have not
been properly trained on how to avoid damaging aircraft when refueling 'em.




I've done my share of ramp ratting and I'll remind you the FBO isn't paying that
guy enough to live on. OTOH, most of the guys on the ramp like aviation and
wouldn't knowingly damage an aircraft. I'd say education would be the answer
you're looking for.

I congratulate you on keeping your temper. What many people never seem to
consider is what motivates others. When somebody shows me their ass, I tend to
look for ways to pay them back. When somebody's nice to me and I've screwed up,
I look for ways to make it up to them. You definitely want to be in the latter
category.


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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:11 pm    Post subject: Re: HELP:Aeronca Champ or J3 Cub V speed? Reply with quote

Gee, I recall that when I got checked out in the J-4 the speeds were

Climb 50
Cruise 50
Approach 50
get scared if over 60 or less than 40.

:)
Brian


Cub Driver wrote:
Quote:
On 30 May 2006 07:23:58 -0700, gouxin (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:

Does anyone have a handy operation manual

to check out either Aeronca 7AC Champ or J3 Cub's V
speed? Thank you very much.

Of course there is no operation manual for the J-3, but here are the
figures given me in ground school:

Cruise 73 mph
Top 83 mph
Stall 39 mph
Best glide 50 mph
Green arc 39-90 mph (of course, neither is there any green arc!)
Yellow arc 90-122 mph
Red line 122 mph

That said, I would *never* fly a 60-year-old Cub at 122 mph!


-- all the best, Dan Ford

email: usenet AT danford DOT net

Warbird's Forum: www.warbirdforum.com
Piper Cub Forum: www.pipercubforum.com
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: re:Why didn't the Cessna 337 make it? Reply with quote

Seems like a couple people took off and forgot to start the rear motor.

-Robert


PP-DQA wrote:
Quote:
My instructor has over 100 hrs on the Skymaster, and he always said
that the problem with the Skymaster crashes were untrained piltos who
didn't take imemdiate actions when needed. He mentioned the
Synchrophaser gauge, that would show you which engine was doing the
work. IT either pointed forward or aft, so looking at it, you'd know
which engine is not working. He also mentioned that to keep the aft
engine cool he would run up the aft engine after running the front,
then shut it off, taxi with front engine on, and start the aft when
he is rady for take off before entering the runway. It's common
practice for many airlines, so it shoudln't be a problem for a
properly trained Skymaster pilot...
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Careless Linemen Reply with quote

One of the funniest moments I've had at a gas station was watching a car
full of people pull up to a self-serve pump (in Maryland). The two men and
two women got out of the car, and circled the pump like the hominids in
"2001" circling the monolith. One of the guys came up and asked me how to
use the pump, and I showed them. The guy looked at me and said
apologetically, "We're from Jersey." I thought at first he was confessing
to being stupid, and then I remembered....

"Gig 601XL Builder" <wrDOTgiaconaATcox.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"John Ousterhout" <Juliet-Oscar-Hotel-Uniform (AT) ousterhout (DOT) net> wrote in
message news:8k7fg.755756$084.747941@attbi_s22...

An exemption was passed for Aircraft Self-Service gas. But autos must
still wait for an attendant to fill their vehicle. Self-service fas has
been disapproved by the voters several times. It makes no sense to me,
but (we) Oregonians pride ourselves in being different.

- John Ousterhout -

Well loose the pride. You're like New Jersey.

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Airbus to Expand Cockpit Automation Reply with quote

<deanwil (AT) msn (DOT) com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Whats the difference between an A320 and a chainsaw? About 100 trees
a minute. (see the A320 autoland video if you don't get it)

Or:


What's the difference between a Cri-Cri and an A320?

One's an airplane with lawnmower engines, the other a lawnmower with
airplane engines.

;-)
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