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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Air Expo 2006 - Cannon AFB - Clovis/Portales, NM Reply with quote



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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Expo 2006 - Cannon AFB - Clovis/Portales, NM Reply with quote



Dan,

You probably can still get in. I called the air base information
operaor and she transferred me to the folks in charge of the airshow.
There are several government forms to fill out and some that your
insurance provider will have to fill out. If you're going to do it,
better get crackin'. The problem may be getting SSA literature in time.
They sent me about 50 recent magazine copies, and a couple of hunderd
brochures, applications, and 3 video tapes. They also sent a bunch of
embroidered glider hat stickers. Contact Denise at the SSA and see how
quickly you can get materials. I was surprised at the amount of
brochures and magazines I gave out. I had a few, maybe 40, brochures
and apps left. Everything else went. Of course, before giving out a
video, the person must be displaying WAY more interest than anyone
else, but magazines were primarily for adults, and hat stickers mostly
went to kids and scouts.

One more thing... put on sunscreen every time you think about it. I put
it on once, and it wasn't enough... my face fell off yesterday...

Jack


dwrobel wrote:
Quote:
Jack,

In early June we are having the Thunderbirds at Hill AFB in Utah for a
two day airshow and would like to display a glider here as well. It
may be too late at this point but I'd like to try. What was the
process you went through to get permission? How much literature did
you get from the SSA?

Dan Wrobel



Jack wrote:
The Air Force is still active. There is another mission coming to the
site, but no announcements have been made. There is active construction
on base and a pretty good attitude among those who are here. The local
builders and bankers seem optomistic. My neighbor is an engineer for
base housing and that sort of thing. He says he wouldn't be here if the
base was closing...

That's as much as I've heard.

Jack Womack
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerated license course? Reply with quote



Deane,

You shouldn't really need 40 trips to get your license.

I can't remember if you ever flew power, but if you have flown more
that 40 hours (dual counts) then you only need 3 hours of glider
flight, including 10 solo flights to satisfy the FAA requirements.

If you have not flown power, then it is 20 glider flights including 10
solo flights totaling at least 2 hours.

Since you are used to flying the swift with a stick, that's not new,
neither is aero tow. The rudder pedals might be new, but should not be
a problem. Overall I would expect your learning curve to be quick.

Still, you should learn in a concentrated push at a commercial
operation. The closest are:
Sugarbush, VT (http://www.sugarbush.org/)
Knauff's in PA (eglider.org)
Bermuda high in South Carolina
Seminole Lakes in florida (http://www.soarfl.com/) right up the road
from Quest.

I have never taken instruction at any of these sites, so I can't really
comment on quality of instruction.

Todd Smith (aka Toad)
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Q: Blanik L-23 Landing Reply with quote

Hi,

I have ripped two tailwheels off of Blanik's over the years. It is a
weakness of the design as you normaly should be able to do a nice "two
point" low energy landing with a flare to the landing attitude.
The POH operational procedure ammends this practice to do a "wheel
landing" This is a common landing for tail wheel airplanes, and if you
get a chance to fly a Cub or similar tailwheel airplane you will get
the idea.

The Blanik is a great trainer in many ways. There is an improved
tailwheel on the new L-23's that is fixed and does not caster. The AF
Academy has them in this configuration. With the improved normal
tailwheel. I think normal low energy landings could be taught.

Be gentel with the tailwheel and don't push it backward over rough
ground.

See Saftey Advisory 01-1 at

http://www.soaringsafety.org/prevention/advisory.html

Jeff Banks
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerated license course? Reply with quote

In my opinion an accelerated course is the most efficient way to obtain
your rating
It is a bit pricey, but in the long run, with the price of fuel and so
on, it shouldn't cost much more than a club that is a 2 hrs drive
from your location.
..
Soar Minden (800 3457627) will dedicate an instructor to you, and it is
possible to obtain your rating in a week. You will be trained in modern
glass ships by a professional friendly staff. Check out their wed site
www.soarminden.com.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Reserve Parachute and TSA Reply with quote

Jeffrey Banks wrote:
Quote:
I will visit my rigger and learn a bit more about opening my chute for
inspection. I think with personal knowlege of my chute I probably
could of opened it without a mess.

You would have ended up with a package about 4 times as large as
before....

Sadly, as in most "zero tolerance" type situations, these people are
forced to act "stupid" and follow their interpretation of the rules "to
the letter".

Here's how they treat invalids:
http://reason.com/brickbats/bb-2006.shtml
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Memorial Day USA Reply with quote

I am a resident in the US, a Canadian citizen, and while I have been
here for the last 6 years I have learned some very important things
about the US and its people.

The politicians here are just a dumb and controversial here as anywhere
else in the world, never really seeming to perform what the public
wants, and always influenced
by personal agendas....just like everywhere else.

I can only hope that when their day of of reckoning comes, they will
pay for their deeds.

My Great Grandfather was killed by the British, and my Grandfather was
killed by the British, my father was injured by the Americans but they
took care of him as a prisoner in Texas......my father fought because
he was to protect his family, not because he supported Hitler's quest
for power. Troops dont necessarily agree on the politicians point of
view.

The company where I work, had adopted a platoon of Marines in Iraq and
sent them mail, supplies, words of encouragement, treats etc.

After their tour of duty was over they returned back to the US and
visited us here at work with their equipment, Hummers, Rifles,
Artillery etc and demonstrated for us how it all works.

I was immediately floored by their age.....they are so young, more like
the kids you see at the mall, or delivering the newspaper.

I was also impressed by their formal forthright attitudes.....their
parents can be very proud, as I've never seen a finer group of
kids.....very knowledgable and respectfull.

I was moved by what I saw, and could not imagine them laying down their
lives at the whim of our government, for the greater good. At that
moment or realization I understood what patriotism is all about.

So I celebrate memorial day out of respect for these fine boys and all
the others before them, because you have to support the soldiers, even
if not the politicians, because the soldiers are our children,
brothers, sisters, neices and nephews, fathers and grand
fathers.....they are our family....on every side of the globe, and they
have choosen to serve their family and country regardless of whether
they agree or not about the politics.

How can you not support your own troops or in my case adopted troops?

Every country has their own day of celebration, and I suggest everyone
support them as you would your own family. Thats what memorial day is
about.....saying thanks!

How can we argue about this?

Ray Buhr
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Newbie Q: Blanik L-23 Landing Reply with quote

Thanks, everyone. I will work diligently this weekend to "fly it on"
for a wheel-type landing.


On 5/30/2006 8:26 PM, Mitty wrote the following:
Quote:
I am learning to fly a Blanik L-23 and my instructor is telling me to
"fly it on" with no flare.

1) I am commercial/instrument rated with somewhere north of 1000 ASEL
and a few ASES landings in my logbook. I am _programmed_ to flare.
Smile To not flare is very hard for me.

2) The Blanik AFM refers to flaring on landing.

3) The instructor is very concerned about the fragility of the tail
wheel, so possibly this is the reason for his technique.

So ... to flare or not? When solo, I mean.

BTW, this is pretty neat stuff. I wish my first few hours of training
had been in a glider. Certainly I would have learned to use the rudder
much sooner!
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerated license course? Reply with quote

I'm sure Don would be very willing to help you out:

http://www.crosscountrysoaring.com/welcome1.html

He's based about 1/2 hour south of the Minneapolis/St. Paul airport in
a medium sized town with plenty of motel and restaurant options. The
equipment is _pristine_ and he's a really nice guy to boot.

On 5/31/2006 9:17 AM, Deane wrote the following:
Quote:
In Australia I have heard there are places where you can get your
sailplane license in a week of continuous training. I already have much
aviation experience (HG) and would like to get my sailplane license but
balk at driving the 4 hours round trip to the closest sailport, about
40 times to get the license. Is there anyplace in the US that offers an
accelerated course? Anyone have any comments, good or bad, about this
arrangement?
Deane
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Accelerated license course? Reply with quote

Deane wrote:
Quote:
In Australia I have heard there are places where you can get your
sailplane license in a week of continuous training.

Solo in a week is possible but not a licence. Oz doesn't actually issue
licences for gliders, it has a British club-based system with no formal
piece of paper - just a logbook.

Six students soloed from our last course but they would not have been to
US licence standard. Our 5 day course guarantees 40,000 feet of
launches - usually 20-30 flights.

I already have much
Quote:
aviation experience (HG) and would like to get my sailplane license but
balk at driving the 4 hours round trip to the closest sailport, about
40 times to get the license. Is there anyplace in the US that offers an
accelerated course? Anyone have any comments, good or bad, about this
arrangement?

It results in quicker learning than weekends only but consistent
followup practice over the next month or two is needed or there is
marked regression in skills in the weeks following the course. This may
be less marked if you have previous experience.

GC

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Deane
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 8:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Region 8 Contest Reply with quote

Hi fellow region 8-ers

As for mileage to attend the contest..
This Alaskan rookie will be doing a first contest with
a 'Russia'
Can I get some extra handicap for 'attendance mileage'?

Jeff Banks
Alaska (Region 8)

At 14:18 30 May 2006, Jay wrote:
Quote:
Thanks for the support guys.

We actually do have a few more folks signed up but
we are having
problems with our server folks and I have been unable
to update the
list of registrants for some 3 weeks now.

It is looking as though we will have a competition
for all three
classes - Open, 15 Meter and Sport though the field
is still not as
large as we could wish. For those who watch RAS and
are planning on
flying with us this year - letting us know would be
appreciated!

Jay Todd
CM

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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Memorial Day USA Reply with quote

PB wrote:
Quote:
Derek Copeland wrote:
Well this occured before I was born. But:

1) The Germans bombed our cities first - London, Coventry,
Birmingham, Southampton, Portsmouth, Liverpool, etc,
etc.
But never carpet bombed your cities.

snip
Is that why Dresden was flattened just few month before the end of the
war? Not really, please check your history, inflicting maximum damage
to the cities was an expressly stated policy of the Bomber Command.

As far as I know it was payback for Coventry, which was sacrificed,

undefended by fighter command, to protect the secret possession of the
Enigma Machine by the Brits via the Poles. Churchill knew the raid on
Coventry was coming, but only via the code-breaking and no secondary
intelligence. One of the harder calls in the war and an appeasement to
some.

Frank Whiteley
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Reserve Parachute and TSA Reply with quote

Tom,

At 15:30 31 May 2006, 5z wrote:>
Quote:
You would have ended up with a package about 4 times
as large as
before....

That was what I was afraid of.
I mailed it no problem.
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Renting a sailplane Reply with quote

Tom wrote:
Quote:
Incipient Sinner wrote:
Is there anyone out there with an aircraft near Penn
State they'd be willing to rent out for a week around
thanksgiving for the right price???

I'm a sensible pilot with a good record and good money
to spend.

Anyone considering this offer should bear in mind that this will likely
put you into the commercial operator category and you should be fully
cognizant of all FARs and insurance issues before proceeding. Your
glider will probably need a type certificate (not experimental), a 100
hour inspection, and your insurance will likely be null and void (the
renter could obtain A/C renters insurance). And don't assume that this
is an inclusive list because I am not a commercial operator (you could
always call one for advice).

Tom

There are two separate and distinct categories of requirements to be
met, the insurers and the FARs. Guest pilot coverage is available to
the owner under some plans, however, the user should have
renter/non-owner coverage. Commercial coverage may not be required,
but a thorough reading of your policy and limits are needed. The
insurers requirements may be the harder to meet.

Since no passengers, only crew, are carried, there is no TC
requirement. Generally, unless specifically prohibited in the FARs,
it's permitted.

If you can show me a prohibition in the FARs, I'd like to see it, as I
have seen experimental single place gliders on the renter line at FBOs.
There have been some subtle changes in the FARs with the inclusion of
LSA into the mix.

Frank Whiteley
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PostPosted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Memorial Day USA Reply with quote

jb92563 wrote:
Quote:
I am a resident in the US, a Canadian citizen, and while I have been
here for the last 6 years I have learned some very important things
about the US and its people.

The politicians here are just a dumb and controversial here as anywhere
else in the world, never really seeming to perform what the public
wants, and always influenced
by personal agendas....just like everywhere else.

[....]

Quote:
...my father fought because
he was to protect his family, not because he supported Hitler's quest
for power. Troops dont necessarily agree on the politicians point of
view.

[....]

Quote:
So I celebrate memorial day out of respect for these fine boys and all
the others before them, because you have to support the soldiers, even
if not the politicians, because the soldiers are our children,
brothers, sisters, neices and nephews, fathers and grand
fathers.....they are our family....on every side of the globe, and they
have choosen to serve their family and country regardless of whether
they agree or not about the politics.

[....]

Quote:
How can we argue about this?

Ray Buhr

----------


Thank you, Ray, for the injection of sanity and shared respect into a
series of pointless OT rants.

If travel broadens, there's clearly a crying need for more cross country
flying by some members of r.a.s.


Jack
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