AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 92, 93, 94  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Owning Airplanes View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message server Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 [ message unavailable ] Back to top bartscher@aol.com Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 3:37 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 Jon, The total is probably closer to $25K to get to an IFR panel, but it is significant as you point out. There really aren't any of my aircraft available on the market with IFR panels, so its more of a decision of whether I want this plane to be IFR capable in the long term. After talking with the avionics shop today and looking at their demo 396, I may go the route you suggested anyway. Unfortunately now I want a transponder upgrade so I can get the TIS traffic on the 396. Thanks, Eric 1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848 http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html Back to top Jon Kraus Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 4:09 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 Yea after I sent the post I figured that 50 AMU's was probably pretty high... As far as the 396 goes I think that is a good choice, Sorry I cost you more cash by wanting the TIS traffic upgrade... :-) Jon Kraus '79 Mooney 201 4443H @ TYQ bartscher (AT) aol (DOT) com wrote: Quote: Jon, The total is probably closer to $25K to get to an IFR panel, but it is significant as you point out. There really aren't any of my aircraft available on the market with IFR panels, so its more of a decision of whether I want this plane to be IFR capable in the long term. After talking with the avionics shop today and looking at their demo 396, I may go the route you suggested anyway. Unfortunately now I want a transponder upgrade so I can get the TIS traffic on the 396. Thanks, Eric 1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848 http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html Back to top Margy Natalie Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:01 am    Post subject: Re: WOW !.....Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics Hansi wrote: Quote: WOW !. Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics: http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aerobatics.html Bob Hoover is considered one of the founding fathers of modern aerobatics, he was described by Jimmy Doolittle as, "...the greatest stick-and-rudder man who ever lived." In the Centennial of flight edition of the Air & Space Smithsonian, he was named the third greatest aviator in history. and the airplane is also at the Smithsonian now. It's at the one out by Dulles, not the one downtown. Margy Back to top Margy Natalie Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: rec.aviation tee shirts Jay Honeck wrote: Quote: I've ordered one. (For some reason Dan didn't want to swap me for a hotel baseball cap...!) Let's see - a week of camping, and only one t-shirt. Maybe we should arrange a particular day when we're all supposed to wear the shirt? Wednesday Night is the traditional rec.aviation party at OSH, hosted by Mary and me, Jim & Tami Burns, and Montblack. It's held at our campsite in the North 40 airplane camping area, and there is always plenty of good food and camaraderie. Your admission cost is a 6-pack of GOOD beer. (Bring Miller Lite, or anything that looks too much like "love in a canoe", and you'll be buying a round at Friar Tuck's!) Might I suggest we wear Dan's "uniform of the day" t-shirt on Wednesday? -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" I think I'll stick to my older rec.aviation shirt (if I can find it). Anyone remember the "Slips with Flaps" shirts? I'm presenting a forum on Wed. afternoon (2:30, tent 4). I will be using my wine as a beer voucher. Margy Back to top bartscher@aol.com Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:20 am    Post subject: Re: Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 Jon, That's alright, I won't be getting the Garmin 330 transponder this time around, but I might put one in next year so I won't give you any grief until I actually spend the money... I saw your Mooney on Jay's Rouge's Gallery page. Looks like you have a really nice IFR plane with the G430 and the stormscope. I see you are based in Indy. I used to live in Cincinnati & flew over to Muncie & Columbus a lot for breakfast & lunch. Lots of nice airports in that area. Thanks, Eric 1959 Pilatus P-3 A-848 http://www.hometown.aol.com/bartscher/P3A848.html Back to top Ron Wanttaja Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: rec.aviation tee shirts On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:11:34 -0400, Margy Natalie <margy (AT) toad (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: I think I'll stick to my older rec.aviation shirt (if I can find it). Anyone remember the "Slips with Flaps" shirts? I'm presenting a forum on Wed. afternoon (2:30, tent 4). I will be using my wine as a beer voucher. Tch. I've still got my "Air USENET" patches, and my Rec.aviation T-shirt with the pilot wings with the "@" in the middle. Ron Wanttaja Back to top Roger Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: WOW !.....Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:01:49 -0400, Margy Natalie <margy (AT) toad (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: Hansi wrote: WOW !. Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics: http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aerobatics.html Bob Hoover is considered one of the founding fathers of modern aerobatics, he was described by Jimmy Doolittle as, "...the greatest stick-and-rudder man who ever lived." In the Centennial of flight edition of the Air & Space Smithsonian, he was named the third greatest aviator in history. and the airplane is also at the Smithsonian now. It's at the one out by Dulles, not the one downtown. Paul E. Garber Facilities? Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Quote: Margy Back to top Ron Wanttaja Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 9:04 am    Post subject: Re: WOW !.....Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics On Tue, 30 May 2006 22:29:58 -0400, Roger <Delete-Invallid.stuff.groups (AT) tm (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:01:49 -0400, Margy Natalie <margy (AT) toad (DOT) net wrote: Hansi wrote: WOW !. Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics: http://www.jumpingpixels.com/aerobatics.html Bob Hoover is considered one of the founding fathers of modern aerobatics, he was described by Jimmy Doolittle as, "...the greatest stick-and-rudder man who ever lived." In the Centennial of flight edition of the Air & Space Smithsonian, he was named the third greatest aviator in history. and the airplane is also at the Smithsonian now. It's at the one out by Dulles, not the one downtown. Paul E. Garber Facilities? No, the new Udvar-Hazy center...massive place, right down the road from Dulles airport. Free admission ($12 parking). More of an "airplane nut" place...planes basically just parked, no dioramas or superfluous stuff. More emphasis on lesser-known aircraft. They've also got some of Patty Wagstaff's stuff.... Ron Wanttaja Back to top Mike Noel Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Odd starting problem A few other things to consider. If the impulse couplings in the magneto are not working, you will not get a hot enough spark to start the engine. The original aluminum power cables that were installed in the Cherokees develop high resistance with age and cause weak cranking and a difficult start when the engine is flooded. Replacing them with copper gives an impressive improvement in cranking power. -- Best Regards, Mike http://photoshow.comcast.net/mikenoel 'The first rule of intelligent tinkering is save all the pieces.' - Aldo Leopold "Prime" <PrimeFactor (AT) primetime (DOT) com> wrote in message news:Xns97D24BCCE0AAPrimeFactor (AT) 216 (DOT) 196.97.142... Quote: Perhaps somebody here has an idea about this little problem. A few weeks ago, shortly after annual, I tried to start our Cherokee 140. It kicked for a few revs, and then failed to start no matter what I did. I noticed the aux fuel pump kept pumping, as if it was not building pressure. The primer seemed to have fuel. I noticed fuel on the carpet and leaking outside below the aux pump. We had our mechanic replace the aux pump gasket a few days later. I then flew the plane twice after that without any problems. So today (a gorgeous day, by the way), my partner and I are going to fly. We try to start the plane and it kicks once, then fails to start. We try more primer. We try flooded procedures. Eventually the plane is cranking slowly due to weakened battery. We get the car over and jump the plane. We try everything. There is no fuel leak anywhere. There is no smell of fuel anywhere. Aux fuel pump keeps clicking as if pressure is not being built up, but no leaks. Primer feels like it is pumping fuel into cylinders. Sumping fuel reveals no water. We try switching tanks. Once the first kick happened, NOTHING would get it to fire. So we're planning a long XC in a couple of weeks. I'm concerned that even if our mechanic does something, we might still not have it fixed and then we could get stuck at some podunk airport. Although I thought the problem had been fixed previously, the symptoms are the same, minus apparent fuel leaks anywhere. It acts like it's not getting fuel. The fact that the initial crank fired suggests it's not electrical. But the fact that the primer feels like it's pumping fuel means it should fire after priming, at least for a bit. Anybody have good ideas? Thanks in advance. Back to top Jay Beckman Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: WOW !.....Bob Hoover's Stopped Engine Aerobatics "Roger" <Delete-Invallid.stuff.groups (AT) tm (DOT) net> wrote in message news:lsvp7210n8jqm59rb95o9i7dcop97tb9ev (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... Quote: On Tue, 30 May 2006 21:01:49 -0400, Margy Natalie <margy (AT) toad (DOT) net wrote: Paul E. Garber Facilities? Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member) (N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair) www.rogerhalstead.com Udvar-Hazy at Dulles... Some pics at: http://www.pbase.com/flyingphotog/udvarhazy_center (Shameless plug for the shooter...um, me...) Jay Beckman PP-ASEL Chandler, AZ Back to top Thomas Borchert Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 1:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 Bartscher (AT) aol (DOT) com, Are you familiar with the panel mounts at airgizmos.com? They might help make it look tidy. -- Thomas Borchert (EDDH) Back to top Dave Butler Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 6:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Cost of Garmin 300XL installed vs. GNS430 Thomas Borchert wrote: Quote: Bartscher (AT) aol (DOT) com, Are you familiar with the panel mounts at airgizmos.com? They might help make it look tidy. I have the 396 and agree it is an excellent choice as your one and only GPS if you can live without RNAV approaches. I've seen the airgizmo thing and if you can get it past the FAA I think it's a great concept. I'm not aware of any installations in GA aircraft, I think the avionics shops are still afraid of them. I don't know what kind of certification hoops you have to jump through for your warbird. BTW, has anyone seen one of the airgizmo mounts that's been blessed by a FSDO for other than homebuilt? Dave Back to top Jay Honeck Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: rec.aviation tee shirts Quote: I'm thinking add about 100 lbs and 10" to Tom Cruise? He's working his way into a "fairylike, frolicsome, gay, go-go, swinging" type of a guy. Add the frosted hair, like Cruise was sporting in his recent "bad guy" movie with Jamie Foxx, and you've got something... -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Back to top Jay Honeck Guest Posted: Wed May 31, 2006 7:16 pm    Post subject: Re: rec.aviation tee shirts Quote: I'm presenting a forum on Wed. afternoon (2:30, tent 4). Cool! What's the topic? Quote: I will be using my wine as a beer voucher. Works for me. But it's harder to share... ;-) -- Jay Honeck Iowa City, IA Pathfinder N56993 www.AlexisParkInn.com "Your Aviation Destination" Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Owning Airplanes All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3 ... 92, 93, 94  Next Page 1 of 94   Jump to: Select a forum Aviation----------------alt.aviationAviation safety EnhancementPlanes, gliders and flying in AustraliaAviation et pilotage (Français)rec.aviationAviation (Aerobatics)Hot air, gas balloons and airshipsHang-gliding, paragliding, foot-launched flightAircraft Design & BuildingInstrument Flight RulesAviation (Classifieds)Military AircraftNaval AviationAviation (Miscellaneous Topics)Owning AirplanesAviators (General Discussions)Aviation related productsAircraft RestorationHelicopters and rotary wing aircraftsFlight SimulationSailplanesAviation (Students)Light aircraftFlying related activities in the UK Airports----------------alt.airportsEdinburgh Airport Glasgow Airport Humberside Airport Luton Airport Aberdeen Airport Glasgow Prestwick Airport  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.