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Sam D. Thomas Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:30 pm Post subject: GPS Advise |
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I just passed my check ride and earned my private ticket last week.
I'm now starting to do some extended cross country work and would like
some input as to GPS units. I have researched (3) units and would like
some "real-world" opinions as to features, usability and support.
Here are the units I'm looking at:
Gramin's GPSMap 296
AvMap's EKP-IV
Lowrance's AirMap 2000C
I believe that the GPSMap 296 has the most features and best support but
the screen is only 3.5".
The EKP-IV has a large 7" screen and has most of the features that
Garmin offers but it's Italian made and operates off of internal power
i.e. the 12V DC cigarette outlet inside the cockpit. Seeing that I still
rent airplanes, I will have to make sure the adapter in the cockpit is
working in order to use this unit. The EKP-IV offers a "Go-Pak" battery
device that gives you up to 2 hours use and has (6) batteries installs
for emergency power.
The AirMap 2000C has a 5" screen and offers most of the same features
the others do but is $500.00 cheaper. Like the EKP-IV, it operates off
the 12V, in-cockpit adapter and has emergency batteries for backup.
All the above units offer several mounting options and software /
hardware capabilities to meet various demands and requirements.
I'm looking for some feedback for owners or past owners that can give me
real world opinions and pro / cons.
Thanking you in advance.
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SR20GOER Guest
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Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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Several I know in passing use the GPS 296 after owning other other types and
brands.
I have a Magellan and the battery and updates situation means I would never
have another.
Look for updates ability and the capability of the GPS several years
downstream to still update.
Also, some GPS work with flight planning software. I believe Garmin works
with at least one computer FP here in Oz. Means you can do all your plan in
the FP software and download to the GPS - beats one finger loading.
On the other side, the changing technology - eg ADS-B - and the speed of
technology means it may be best to buy the cheapest and turf it for a newie
in 2 years. Also, as more aircraft get GPS fitted as standard, I am now
finding my hand held spends more time at home than in the air.
"Sam D. Thomas" <sdthomas (AT) houston (DOT) rr.com> wrote
| Quote: | I just passed my check ride and earned my private ticket last week.
I'm now starting to do some extended cross country work and would like
some input as to GPS units. I have researched (3) units and would like
some "real-world" opinions as to features, usability and support.
Here are the units I'm looking at:
Gramin's GPSMap 296
AvMap's EKP-IV
Lowrance's AirMap 2000C
I believe that the GPSMap 296 has the most features and best support but
the screen is only 3.5".
The EKP-IV has a large 7" screen and has most of the features that Garmin
offers but it's Italian made and operates off of internal power i.e. the
12V DC cigarette outlet inside the cockpit. Seeing that I still rent
airplanes, I will have to make sure the adapter in the cockpit is working
in order to use this unit. The EKP-IV offers a "Go-Pak" battery device
that gives you up to 2 hours use and has (6) batteries installs for
emergency power.
The AirMap 2000C has a 5" screen and offers most of the same features the
others do but is $500.00 cheaper. Like the EKP-IV, it operates off the
12V, in-cockpit adapter and has emergency batteries for backup.
All the above units offer several mounting options and software / hardware
capabilities to meet various demands and requirements.
I'm looking for some feedback for owners or past owners that can give me
real world opinions and pro / cons.
Thanking you in advance.
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James Ricks Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:25 am Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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Gramin's GPSMap 296
AvMap's EKP-IV
Lowrance's AirMap 2000C
Sam, first, Congratulations on your check ride and PPL! We'll look forward to |
the details.
I have a Lowrance 1000. Same as 2000c except grayscale instead of color. I
find it perfectly acceptable. 4 AA batteries last 12 hrs if you don't have
access to a lighter plug in the aircraft- or vehicle for that matter- it comes
with road information as well. It uses easily available SD memory not
proprietary. Updates of software are easy to accomplish and are available
either by subscription, 1-at-a-time as desired or pre loaded on memory cards.
I've found the mounts included- yoke- and suction cup with both long and short
connecting pieces, easy to adapt to any aircraft/vehicle I've needed to put it
in.
If I had a beef, it would be that the backlighting is too bright for night
use. Very white light that would ruin one's night vision if left on. The
display is clear enough, though, that using external light source (red LED)
works fine.
I just checked with the seller I bought it through and the color 2000c is $850
plus freight and comes with a dandy carrying case that could double as a
headset case. Check www.lcflight.com I have no connection to these people
other than as a customer.
Jim
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Mike 'Flyin'8' Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 12:46 am Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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I will second your opinion on the Lowrance AirMap. You get get one
here for $795.
http://www.airplanegear.com/lowrance.htm
This is where I purchased my AirMap 1000 and I am very happy with it.
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Gramin's GPSMap 296
AvMap's EKP-IV
Lowrance's AirMap 2000C
I have a Lowrance 1000. Same as 2000c except grayscale instead of color. I
find it perfectly acceptable. 4 AA batteries last 12 hrs if you don't have
access to a lighter plug in the aircraft- or vehicle for that matter- it comes
with road information as well. It uses easily available SD memory not
proprietary. Updates of software are easy to accomplish and are available
either by subscription, 1-at-a-time as desired or pre loaded on memory cards.
I've found the mounts included- yoke- and suction cup with both long and short
connecting pieces, easy to adapt to any aircraft/vehicle I've needed to put it
in.
If I had a beef, it would be that the backlighting is too bright for night
use. Very white light that would ruin one's night vision if left on. The
display is clear enough, though, that using external light source (red LED)
works fine.
I just checked with the seller I bought it through and the color 2000c is $850
plus freight and comes with a dandy carrying case that could double as a
headset case. Check www.lcflight.com I have no connection to these people
other than as a customer.
Jim
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Mike Alexander
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
See my online aerial photo album at
http://flying.4alexanders.com
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houstondan Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:19 am Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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agree. never owned the others but i've got 2 by lowrance and i'm very
happy with the quality and dependability. price seemed fair.
dan
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Robbie S. Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:15 am Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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You may also want to look at Anywhere map. They also have XM weather, which
is really great to have.
....Robbie.
"Sam D. Thomas" <sdthomas (AT) houston (DOT) rr.com> wrote
| Quote: | I just passed my check ride and earned my private ticket last week.
I'm now starting to do some extended cross country work and would like
some input as to GPS units. I have researched (3) units and would like
some "real-world" opinions as to features, usability and support.
Here are the units I'm looking at:
Gramin's GPSMap 296
AvMap's EKP-IV
Lowrance's AirMap 2000C
I believe that the GPSMap 296 has the most features and best support but
the screen is only 3.5".
The EKP-IV has a large 7" screen and has most of the features that Garmin
offers but it's Italian made and operates off of internal power i.e. the
12V DC cigarette outlet inside the cockpit. Seeing that I still rent
airplanes, I will have to make sure the adapter in the cockpit is working
in order to use this unit. The EKP-IV offers a "Go-Pak" battery device
that gives you up to 2 hours use and has (6) batteries installs for
emergency power.
The AirMap 2000C has a 5" screen and offers most of the same features the
others do but is $500.00 cheaper. Like the EKP-IV, it operates off the
12V, in-cockpit adapter and has emergency batteries for backup.
All the above units offer several mounting options and software / hardware
capabilities to meet various demands and requirements.
I'm looking for some feedback for owners or past owners that can give me
real world opinions and pro / cons.
Thanking you in advance.
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Nick Weyer Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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I settled for a 500 from Lowrance. I am very pleased with it. I fly a
Cessna 172 and it sticks right on the wind screen off to my left handy but
still out of the way. I thought about he 1000 but after talking to a guy
who used Garmin, 1000, and 500 he suggested that if you are renting get the
500. Especially in a Cessna 172 as the 1000 would block to much. If you
own you could mount where you want. Having said that I bought from a place
in Indiana http://www.airplanegear.com/lowrance.htm They were very helpful.
"houstondan" <danjones57 (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote
| Quote: | agree. never owned the others but i've got 2 by lowrance and i'm very
happy with the quality and dependability. price seemed fair.
dan
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bdlongworth@surfbest.net Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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Sam,
We have used the Airmap 1000 over a year and are quite pleased with
it. The only Garmin product I used was the GPS III pilot. We much
prefer the larger screen of the Airmap. Not sure whether the Garmin
296 had better GPS receiver than the III pilot but we lost reception on
the that unit 2 out of the 10 or so trips which it was used. In the
first year or so after getting our PP tickets, we flew all cross
country trips with just pilotage and dead reckoning to gain experience.
We only occasionally used the Garmin for cross reference and to check
the ground speed.
The Lowrance airmap has been heavily utilized for its obstacle
database and to make sure that we don't violate any airspaces. We also
like to review the flight tracks after our instrument practices and
flights. Its reception has been quite good and we have never lost the
signals. Before getting the cigarette lighter installed in our plane,
we used the supplied rechargeable batteries which we replaced every
other week (approximately 10hrs).
Hai Longworth
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Flyin'8@here.com Guest
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Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2005 9:31 pm Post subject: Re: GPS Advise |
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"Nick Weyer" <nickw (AT) bcmac (DOT) com> wrote:
| Quote: | Especially in a Cessna 172 as the 1000 would block to much.
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I use the 1000 in a 172 and have no problem with it blocking anything. It
mounts to the front of the yoke with no obstruction of the ins panel.
Essentially, it has the same footprint as the center of the yoke, so if the
AirMap were to block something, so would the yoke. I have used the AirMap
in about 10 flights now and have not had any problems with anything being
blocked.
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Mike Flyin'8
PP-ASEL
Temecula, CA
http://flying.4alexanders.com
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