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Back to top budgie Guest Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas On Fri, 21 Oct 2005 14:08:45 +1000, "Tim Green" <timmiegreen (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Yes send 1000's of jobs overseas for cheap work, and lets just hope one of your Aircraft don't fall out of the sky because of this cheap labour. Remember the old saying, pay peanuts, and you get monkee's. I wish Dixon would elaborate on what work practises he wants changed so the flying public could have thire view on this. Fairly simple really. He wants them to work for peanuts. Quote: Anyway Qantas if you do this, you lost me as a future passenger. Back to top Rob Guest Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas Tim Green wrote: Quote: Yes send 1000's of jobs overseas for cheap work, and lets just hope one of your Aircraft don't fall out of the sky because of this cheap labour. Remember the old saying, pay peanuts, and you get monkee's. I wish Dixon would elaborate on what work practises he wants changed so the flying public could have thire view on this. Anyway Qantas if you do this, you lost me as a future passenger. So your going to use another carrier - and where do they get there maintenance done then? rm Back to top Tim Green Guest Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 6:48 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas Good point "Rob" <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Tim Green wrote: Yes send 1000's of jobs overseas for cheap work, and lets just hope one of your Aircraft don't fall out of the sky because of this cheap labour. Remember the old saying, pay peanuts, and you get monkee's. I wish Dixon would elaborate on what work practises he wants changed so the flying public could have thire view on this. Anyway Qantas if you do this, you lost me as a future passenger. So your going to use another carrier - and where do they get there maintenance done then? rm Back to top Glenn Guest Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas Rob wrote: Quote: Tim Green wrote: Yes send 1000's of jobs overseas for cheap work, and lets just hope one of your Aircraft don't fall out of the sky because of this cheap labour. Remember the old saying, pay peanuts, and you get monkee's. I wish Dixon would elaborate on what work practises he wants changed so the flying public could have thire view on this. Anyway Qantas if you do this, you lost me as a future passenger. So your going to use another carrier - and where do they get there maintenance done then? rm But when you book with Virgin Blue, you know you're flying with Virgin Blue ;-) But look on the good side, with out all that extra expense, Qantas will reduce airfares even more ;-) Back to top AA Guest Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas "Tim Green" <timmiegreen (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Yes send 1000's of jobs overseas for cheap work, and lets just hope one of your Aircraft don't fall out of the sky because of this cheap labour. Remember the old saying, pay peanuts, and you get monkee's. I wish Dixon would elaborate on what work practises he wants changed so the flying public could have thire view on this. Anyway Qantas if you do this, you lost me as a future passenger. They've mostly lost me already - only use them when there's no-one else. 1 million points and I couldn't get 2 business class return seats to Heathrow for June returning July next year. This was attempted as soon as the window of opportunity for the return opened. Even if I could have got them, they were going to be 256000 points each. Got seats on JAL business class for 110000 points return - much better value for your dollar. AA Back to top AA Guest Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas "AA" <someone (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote Quote: They've mostly lost me already - only use them when there's no-one else. 1 million points and I couldn't get 2 business class return seats to Heathrow for June returning July next year. This was attempted as soon as the window of opportunity for the return opened. Even if I could have got them, they were going to be 256000 points each. Got seats on JAL business class for 110000 points return - much better value for your dollar. AA Shouldn't reply to myself, but I forgot to add, I could have got seats on BA business class for 100,000 JAL points, when I couldn't get BA seats with QF for the 256000 points. Work that one out!! AA Back to top Rob Guest Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 1:18 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas AA wrote: Quote: "AA" <someone (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:4358ed43$0$27998$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... They've mostly lost me already - only use them when there's no-one else. 1 million points and I couldn't get 2 business class return seats to Heathrow for June returning July next year. This was attempted as soon as the window of opportunity for the return opened. Even if I could have got them, they were going to be 256000 points each. Got seats on JAL business class for 110000 points return - much better value for your dollar. AA Shouldn't reply to myself, but I forgot to add, I could have got seats on BA business class for 100,000 JAL points, when I couldn't get BA seats with QF for the 256000 points. Work that one out!! AA Had much the same problem but managed the seats with BA. So what your saying is to join another FF program where the points are worth something. I know my QF points have been eroded over the last 5 years. Not sure what Dixons up to but all bonus FF points that are accrued with credit cards are bought off Qantas by the CC company. We have seats to LHR early next year and had to pay an extra $450ea for the pleasure. That's near 25% of a cheap economy ticket. rm Back to top Graeme Hogan Guest Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 2:16 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas "Glenn" <thisisa (AT) fakeaddress (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Rob wrote: Tim Green wrote: Yes send 1000's of jobs overseas for cheap work, and lets just hope one of your Aircraft don't fall out of the sky because of this cheap labour. Remember the old saying, pay peanuts, and you get monkee's. I wish Dixon would elaborate on what work practises he wants changed so the flying public could have thire view on this. Anyway Qantas if you do this, you lost me as a future passenger. So your going to use another carrier - and where do they get there maintenance done then? rm But when you book with Virgin Blue, you know you're flying with Virgin Blue ;-) But look on the good side, with out all that extra expense, Qantas will reduce airfares even more But how long before they outsource all their labour costs, pilots, boilers, etc... and pay you to fly with them. Back to top AA Guest Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 12:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas "Rob" <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> wrote Quote: AA wrote: "AA" <someone (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:4358ed43$0$27998$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... They've mostly lost me already - only use them when there's no-one else. 1 million points and I couldn't get 2 business class return seats to Heathrow for June returning July next year. This was attempted as soon as the window of opportunity for the return opened. Even if I could have got them, they were going to be 256000 points each. Got seats on JAL business class for 110000 points return - much better value for your dollar. AA Shouldn't reply to myself, but I forgot to add, I could have got seats on BA business class for 100,000 JAL points, when I couldn't get BA seats with QF for the 256000 points. Work that one out!! AA Had much the same problem but managed the seats with BA. So what your saying is to join another FF program where the points are worth something. I know my QF points have been eroded over the last 5 years. Not sure what Dixons up to but all bonus FF points that are accrued with credit cards are bought off Qantas by the CC company. We have seats to LHR early next year and had to pay an extra $450ea for the pleasure. That's near 25% of a cheap economy ticket. rm On overseas flights, we fly JAL or a partner airline (which includes BA) with the partner airline points credited to JAL. You can then get seats much more easily than on QF and at a much lower cost in number of points. I live in Cairns and the JAL flight to Narita is operated by QF, with all the points going to my JAL account. Additionally, the JAL business class fare to London is about half the QANTAS cost. QF have continually lowered the value of their points - which is why I go elsewhere if I can. AA Back to top Rob Guest Posted: Sun Oct 23, 2005 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas AA wrote: Quote: "Rob" <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> wrote AA wrote: "AA" <someone (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:4358ed43$0$27998$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... They've mostly lost me already - only use them when there's no-one else. 1 million points and I couldn't get 2 business class return seats to Heathrow for June returning July next year. This was attempted as soon as the window of opportunity for the return opened. Even if I could have got them, they were going to be 256000 points each. Got seats on JAL business class for 110000 points return - much better value for your dollar. AA Shouldn't reply to myself, but I forgot to add, I could have got seats on BA business class for 100,000 JAL points, when I couldn't get BA seats with QF for the 256000 points. Work that one out!! AA Had much the same problem but managed the seats with BA. So what your saying is to join another FF program where the points are worth something. I know my QF points have been eroded over the last 5 years. Not sure what Dixons up to but all bonus FF points that are accrued with credit cards are bought off Qantas by the CC company. We have seats to LHR early next year and had to pay an extra $450ea for the pleasure. That's near 25% of a cheap economy ticket. rm On overseas flights, we fly JAL or a partner airline (which includes BA) with the partner airline points credited to JAL. You can then get seats much more easily than on QF and at a much lower cost in number of points. I live in Cairns and the JAL flight to Narita is operated by QF, with all the points going to my JAL account. Additionally, the JAL business class fare to London is about half the QANTAS cost. QF have continually lowered the value of their points - which is why I go elsewhere if I can. AA thanks Back to top ken Guest Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 9:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas Yep. QF FF plan is almost worthless. I'll look at the JAL one - any other suggestions of plans that are good value for money? Back to top I'm not giving my name to Guest Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas "ken" <kwn (AT) killcare (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Yep. QF FF plan is almost worthless. I'll look at the JAL one - any other suggestions of plans that are good value for money? Dunno about actual flight credits, but as far as credit card points go the Holden card is a million times better than my ANZ QFF Visa which I'm planning to cancel. You get 10% return on the holden one. Back to top AJ Guest Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:18:36 +1000, Rob <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: AA wrote: "AA" <someone (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:4358ed43$0$27998$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... Quote: We have seats to LHR early next year and had to pay an extra $450ea for the pleasure. That's near 25% of a cheap economy ticket. What do you mean you had to pay and extra $450 for the pleasure? If its just the taxes and government charges you are talking about then it goes to show how much we all pay! Back to top Rob Guest Posted: Sun Oct 30, 2005 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: Good onya Qantas AJ wrote: Quote: On Sat, 22 Oct 2005 11:18:36 +1000, Rob <mesa (AT) mine (DOT) com> wrote: AA wrote: "AA" <someone (AT) yahoo (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:4358ed43$0$27998$5a62ac22 (AT) per-qv1-newsreader-01 (DOT) iinet.net.au... We have seats to LHR early next year and had to pay an extra $450ea for the pleasure. That's near 25% of a cheap economy ticket. What do you mean you had to pay and extra $450 for the pleasure? If its just the taxes and government charges you are talking about then it goes to show how much we all pay! That $450 includes the QANTAS fuel etc surcharges - not just government ones. See now BA has some deals at $1300 + tax and S/C - cheap trips! be nice to add point to that and have business. 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