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PostPosted: Tue Sep 09, 2003 9:09 pm    Post subject: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote



Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/9-9-19103-0-17-38.html

RICHARD ALLAN
JACK McConnell last night insisted he would deliver new flights from Glasgow
airport after another new route was announced for Edinburgh.

Continental Airlines confirmed its long-standing plans for a daily direct
flight from Edinburgh to Newark, New Jersey, to start next June.

Continental has operated a Glasgow-Newark service since 1998 and was close
to starting an Edinburgh-Newark flight before the September 11 attacks in
2001 forced a postponement.

The first minister said yesterday that the Scottish Executive was pursuing
new direct flights for Glasgow with as much, if not more, vigour than for
other airports in Scotland.

He said: "Take this from me, I was personally involved in discussions
yesterday with an operator considering Glasgow operations at this moment to
mainland Europe."

Mr McConnell said he would not reveal which airline he was talking to
because he did not want to alert airports in other countries.

Glasgow airport has yet to receive any support from the executive's £6.8m
route development fund, which has helped 13 new routes from Scottish
airports since it was launched last year.

Edinburgh and Prestwick airports have received help for several routes each
and Inverness airport for one.

Mr McConnell dismissed fears that Continental would use public money to set
up in Edinburgh and then withdraw from Glasgow.

He said: "We would not have made a contribution to a new route in Edinburgh
that threatened the Glasgow route."

Mr McConnell said he had been assured by Continental that it would not end
its Glasgow-Newark service. "We are operating on a basis of trust here ...
with an international company that has served Scotland well."

Duncan Tannahill, chief executive of Glasgow Chamber of Commerce, questioned
why Continental was receiving public money to duplicate its Glasgow-Newark
service by flying from Edinburgh to the same destination.

He added that many business travellers preferred to travel to the US via
Heathrow or other airports because they were more convenient, with hourly
departures and arrivals, compared to the once-daily flight from Glasgow and
now Edinburgh.

Charles Gordon, leader of Glasgow City Council, said the Edinburgh service
was good for Scotland but disappointing that Glasgow had again missed out on
support from the route development fund.

It is believed that very attractive financial offers have been made in
recent months to several airlines to begin new routes from Glasgow.

Some, like Birmingham-based Duo, deliberately chose Edinburgh rather than
Glasgow for its four Scottish routes because it believes there are more
potential business travellers in Edinburgh.

Czech Airlines and Germanwings chose Edinburgh for their direct flights to
Prague and Cologne respectively because they considered it was more
attractive for in-bound passengers.

Mr McConnell hinted that transport access problems to Glasgow were affecting
the airport when he said that the rail link and M74 northern extension would
make Glasgow airport as accessible as Edinburgh.

Stephen Baxter, managing director of Glasgow Airport, was talking to dozens
airlines at a major aviation networking conference in Edinburgh yesterday
and today to persuade them to come to Glasgow.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote



"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
"John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) btinternet (DOT) spamcom> wrote in message
news:bjlfie$ksb$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com...
Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/9-9-19103-0-17-38.html

RICHARD ALLAN
JACK McConnell last night insisted he would deliver new flights from
Glasgow
airport after another new route was announced for Edinburgh.


Stephen Baxter, managing director of Glasgow Airport, was talking to
dozens
airlines at a major aviation networking conference in Edinburgh yesterday
and today to persuade them to come to Glasgow.


Those who think this news is the death knell of GLA show that they have
little confidence in the airport. Some seem to be calling for a political
fix to make GLA artificially the transatlantic gateway. That's not on.
Air Travel will treble in the next 20 years and hopefully Scotland will be
at the forefront of that. It is only right that EDI gets it's link to New
York and what EDI gains shouldn't be seen as a blow to GLA.
Some of the people I am talking about must steel themselves for EDI
overtaking sooner or later but I'm not bothered by "my airport's better than
yours". As long as GLA continues to grow it's route network and passenger
numbers it doesn't matter if EDI has more. If people want to create a
transatlantic monopoly at GLA to protect it's status, they are in bed with
the PIK lobby who tried to unjustly keep t/x solely at PIK against the
airlines and the publics wishes.

Keep dreaming Clive.

Glasgows growth is now being driven by the tour operators and
primarily because people are taking more than one holiday per year.
GLA will always prosper on this front because of the large population
around it.

On the other hand , the Jack McConnel International Airport as I now
think EDI should be called will continue to prosper due to :

a)the east coast/EDI area is a large financial centre
b)it has probably more tech companies than the west
c)the Scottish parliament is there. The budding Scottish Blairittes
forget who put most of them in power now that they can play mini gods!

All three items support the high yield , price doesnt matter, expense
account passengers that the airlines want.

So reality is that unless the SE or BAA pitch special rates at GLA ,
airlines will either continue to go to EDI or PIK.

Who wants a bet as to where US Airways goes now and how long AMR
remain at GLA or start and EDI route.

David

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 7:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote




"John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) btinternet (DOT) spamcom> wrote

Quote:
Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed
http://www.theherald.co.uk/news/archive/9-9-19103-0-17-38.html

RICHARD ALLAN
JACK McConnell last night insisted he would deliver new flights from
Glasgow
airport after another new route was announced for Edinburgh.


Stephen Baxter, managing director of Glasgow Airport, was talking to
dozens
airlines at a major aviation networking conference in Edinburgh yesterday
and today to persuade them to come to Glasgow.


Those who think this news is the death knell of GLA show that they have

little confidence in the airport. Some seem to be calling for a political
fix to make GLA artificially the transatlantic gateway. That's not on.
Air Travel will treble in the next 20 years and hopefully Scotland will be
at the forefront of that. It is only right that EDI gets it's link to New
York and what EDI gains shouldn't be seen as a blow to GLA.
Some of the people I am talking about must steel themselves for EDI
overtaking sooner or later but I'm not bothered by "my airport's better than
yours". As long as GLA continues to grow it's route network and passenger
numbers it doesn't matter if EDI has more. If people want to create a
transatlantic monopoly at GLA to protect it's status, they are in bed with
the PIK lobby who tried to unjustly keep t/x solely at PIK against the
airlines and the publics wishes.



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote

[email]dperston (AT) rim (DOT) net[/email] (David) wrote in
news:8d95a93e.0309100922.1775cd90 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com:


Quote:

Glasgows growth is now being driven by the tour operators and
primarily because people are taking more than one holiday per year.
GLA will always prosper on this front because of the large population
around it.

On the other hand , the Jack McConnel International Airport as I now
think EDI should be called will continue to prosper due to :

a)the east coast/EDI area is a large financial centre
b)it has probably more tech companies than the west
c)the Scottish parliament is there. The budding Scottish Blairittes
forget who put most of them in power now that they can play mini gods!

You may be right. Let's see where the Labour seats are after the next
election shall we. At the last one, Edinburgh dumped 2 Labour MSPs
so no favours owed there I reckon.

Quote:

All three items support the high yield , price doesnt matter, expense
account passengers that the airlines want.

Not quite correct, but close. An increasing number of companies
are asking their employees to travel lo-co where possible.

Quote:

So reality is that unless the SE or BAA pitch special rates at GLA ,
airlines will either continue to go to EDI or PIK.

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the airlines
who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one airport to
have a higher financial inducement than another.

Quote:

Who wants a bet as to where US Airways goes now and how long AMR
remain at GLA or start and EDI route.

Like I say, it will be a commercial decision.

--
Adrian

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John Dundas
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 10, 2003 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote


"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote



Quote:
You may be right. Let's see where the Labour seats are after the next
election shall we. At the last one, Edinburgh dumped 2 Labour MSPs
so no favours owed there I reckon.

Well I hope that they are not in my area next time round thats for sure.

Quote:
All three items support the high yield , price doesnt matter, expense
account passengers that the airlines want.

Not quite correct, but close. An increasing number of companies are
asking their employees to travel lo-co where possible.


I also beleive that companies are pulling in their belts. They will try and
cut costs when they can.

Quote:
So reality is that unless the SE or BAA pitch special rates at GLA ,
airlines will either continue to go to EDI or PIK.

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the airlines
who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one airport to
have a higher financial inducement than another.

Well if you are an airline wanting to start routes then you will have too
look at a number of things:

1. Cost - If you want too operate in the west then best failure for money is
PIK. Never mind that its 35miles from Glasgow
Also with SE money its even cheaper.
2. Pax - Well I do beleive that there is demand in Edinburgh and Glasgow for
flights, but depending on where they are wanting to go to.

3. Competition on routes - EDI does not have any competition on routes as
such. GLA has the PIK effect, which must be taken into account so PAX
numbers
are lower.
4. Grants - Everyone should taken them. I dont really care where the money
is going as long as its done in a fair manner.

(plesae note that they are not in any specific order)


Quote:
Who wants a bet as to where US Airways goes now and how long AMR
remain at GLA or start and EDI route.

Like I say, it will be a commercial decision.

--
Adrian

Yes it will be a commercial decision. Just like I think that Emirates will
pick GLA before EDI based on the fact that they can fill the seats all year
round due to the ethnic population in the Glasgow and the rest of the west
of Scotland. I know people say about high paying pax but if you can fill the
plane on nearly every flight then have them flying on connecting flights
from your hub, where would you start from?

Interesting times ahead.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:46 am    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote

"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns93F2E6B44A721z (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119...

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the airlines
who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one airport to
have a higher financial inducement than another.

That assumes everything else is equal. If as BAA and the airlines say
that GLA has lower yielding passengers how else do you attract
airlines, or are you suggesting that you jsut close up shop?
Quote:


Who wants a bet as to where US Airways goes now and how long AMR
remain at GLA or start and EDI route.

Like I say, it will be a commercial decision.

--
Adrian

As I said before AA or FI wouldn't qualify for any incentives if they wanted
to move from GLA to EDI. The fund is there to encourage *new* routes to
Scotland not to help airlines swap location. If they could swap they would
do it every 5 years (or whatever the terms of the funding are) like a yo-yo
and be continually funded. That's simply not how it works.

Watch Continental and learn. In one of the newsgroups I read that CO
are getting 7 million pounds worth of support. Unfortunately I didnt
refer to how many years. Watch this period expire and watch CO drop
GLA quicker than a red hot pancake. Beside I would argue this isnt a
new route.

Now watch AMR, AC and FI do the same thing.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:55 am    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote

"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns93F2E6B44A721z (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119...

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the airlines
who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one airport to
have a higher financial inducement than another.

That assumes the same market exists at both Airports which according
to both BAA and the airlines is not the case. Therefor you can not
have a one size fits all approach.

If you do you are as well accepting the fact that GLA will not attract
further new scheduled services beyond some domestic ones because the
airlines can not make enough money out of there.

Quote:


Who wants a bet as to where US Airways goes now and how long AMR
remain at GLA or start and EDI route.

Like I say, it will be a commercial decision.

--
Adrian

As I said before AA or FI wouldn't qualify for any incentives if they wanted
to move from GLA to EDI. The fund is there to encourage *new* routes to
Scotland not to help airlines swap location. If they could swap they would
do it every 5 years (or whatever the terms of the funding are) like a yo-yo
and be continually funded. That's simply not how it works.

Read somewhere that CO are getting 7 million pounds. Unfortunately it
didnt say over how long.Watch this period expire and for them to drop
GLA like a red hot pancake.

Then watch AA, AC and FI do the same.

Oh and can you say Chungwa picture tubes they really played fair.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote


"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the airlines
who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one airport to
have a higher financial inducement than another.


Who wants a bet as to where US Airways goes now and how long AMR
remain at GLA or start and EDI route.

Like I say, it will be a commercial decision.

--
Adrian

As I said before AA or FI wouldn't qualify for any incentives if they wanted
to move from GLA to EDI. The fund is there to encourage *new* routes to
Scotland not to help airlines swap location. If they could swap they would
do it every 5 years (or whatever the terms of the funding are) like a yo-yo
and be continually funded. That's simply not how it works.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 2:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote

"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Quote:
"David" <dperston (AT) rim (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:8d95a93e.0309101646.ae8e423 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...

Watch Continental and learn. In one of the newsgroups I read that CO
are getting 7 million pounds worth of support. Unfortunately I didnt
refer to how many years. Watch this period expire and watch CO drop
GLA quicker than a red hot pancake. Beside I would argue this isnt a
new route.

Now watch AMR, AC and FI do the same thing.

Again you are not showing any belief in GLA. Why do you think CO would drop
the GLA route? Loads are around 90% - the best performing route in Europe
outwith London. With only 5% coming from Edinburgh but switching to the EDI
flight and natural growth to come, they will contiue to be as successful.
There is no big governmental conspiracy to move everything to EDI. It's been
a free market since the early 90's where the airlines choose.

If only 5% fly coming from EDI why drop the 767 service next year.
Surely the year on year growth would have adequately filled those lost
seats.

And why would> AA, AC and FI do the same? By suggesting that you are
implying they are at
Quote:
GLA against their will, and that they were catagorised in a political fix.

They are at GLA because at the time PIK lost its TX monoply and GLA
was the right choice at that time. Now that doesnt appear to be so.
Quote:
That's not the case nor would we want it to be.

Agreed

Quote:
As I keep saying those airlines could set up at EDI if they wanted but would
get no financial assistance from the SE or otherwise to pack up at GLA. Or
they could quit Scotland altogether at any time but have no intention to
despite drastic cut backs throughout their networks.

But they would get similar assistance to do the same as continental at
EDI.I dont doubt that there is a time limitation as to how long CO
would have to retain a GLA service to keep the grants. Lets see what
happens when it expires.

But these are only my opinion and as John has said Im so negative that
he isnt even going to debate the issue so after this posting Im out of
here. John is welcome to his opinions and like wise so am I. Time will
tell who is correct.

Will still continue to read but not post.

David

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote


"David" <dperston (AT) rim (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:

Watch Continental and learn. In one of the newsgroups I read that CO
are getting 7 million pounds worth of support. Unfortunately I didnt
refer to how many years. Watch this period expire and watch CO drop
GLA quicker than a red hot pancake. Beside I would argue this isnt a
new route.

Now watch AMR, AC and FI do the same thing.

Again you are not showing any belief in GLA. Why do you think CO would drop
the GLA route? Loads are around 90% - the best performing route in Europe
outwith London. With only 5% coming from Edinburgh but switching to the EDI
flight and natural growth to come, they will contiue to be as successful.
There is no big governmental conspiracy to move everything to EDI. It's been
a free market since the early 90's where the airlines choose. And why would
AA, AC and FI do the same? By suggesting that you are implying they are at
GLA against their will, and that they were catagorised in a political fix.
That's not the case nor would we want it to be.
As I keep saying those airlines could set up at EDI if they wanted but would
get no financial assistance from the SE or otherwise to pack up at GLA. Or
they could quit Scotland altogether at any time but have no intention to
despite drastic cut backs throughout their networks.






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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote

[email]dperston (AT) rim (DOT) net[/email] (David) wrote in
news:8d95a93e.0309101646.ae8e423 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com:

Quote:
"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<bjo7fn$qic$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>...
"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:Xns93F2E6B44A721z (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119...

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the
airlines who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one
airport to have a higher financial inducement than another.

That assumes everything else is equal. If as BAA and the airlines say
that GLA has lower yielding passengers how else do you attract
airlines, or are you suggesting that you jsut close up shop?

So are you suggesting that GLA should be subsidised more then EDI?

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[email]dperston (AT) rim (DOT) net[/email] (David) wrote in
news:8d95a93e.0309110652.7d605ec8 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com:

Quote:
"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:<bjpfeg$bub$1 (AT) news7 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>...
"David" <dperston (AT) rim (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:8d95a93e.0309101646.ae8e423 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...

Watch Continental and learn. In one of the newsgroups I read that
CO are getting 7 million pounds worth of support. Unfortunately I
didnt refer to how many years. Watch this period expire and watch
CO drop GLA quicker than a red hot pancake. Beside I would argue
this isnt a new route.

Now watch AMR, AC and FI do the same thing.

Again you are not showing any belief in GLA. Why do you think CO
would drop the GLA route? Loads are around 90% - the best performing
route in Europe outwith London. With only 5% coming from Edinburgh
but switching to the EDI flight and natural growth to come, they will
contiue to be as successful. There is no big governmental conspiracy
to move everything to EDI. It's been a free market since the early
90's where the airlines choose.

If only 5% fly coming from EDI why drop the 767 service next year.

Because EDI will be a more handy airport for some of the existing
passengers.

Quote:
Surely the year on year growth would have adequately filled those lost
seats.

If so, expect a bigger aircraft when it happens.

Quote:

But they would get similar assistance to do the same as continental at
EDI.I dont doubt that there is a time limitation as to how long CO
would have to retain a GLA service to keep the grants. Lets see what
happens when it expires.


There is also a time limitation for the EDI subsidy. I suspect the
duration coincides.

Quote:
But these are only my opinion and as John has said Im so negative that
he isnt even going to debate the issue so after this posting Im out of
here. John is welcome to his opinions and like wise so am I. Time will
tell who is correct.

Will still continue to read but not post.

That's you decision, no-one elses.

--
Adrian

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"John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) btinternet (DOT) spamcom> wrote in
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Quote:

"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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You may be right. Let's see where the Labour seats are after the
next election shall we. At the last one, Edinburgh dumped 2 Labour
MSPs so no favours owed there I reckon.

Well I hope that they are not in my area next time round thats for
sure.

All three items support the high yield , price doesnt matter,
expense account passengers that the airlines want.

Not quite correct, but close. An increasing number of companies are
asking their employees to travel lo-co where possible.

I also beleive that companies are pulling in their belts. They will
try and cut costs when they can.

So reality is that unless the SE or BAA pitch special rates at GLA
, airlines will either continue to go to EDI or PIK.

They say that the offer is there for all airports. It is the
airlines
who make the final choice. It would be less fair for one airport to
have a higher financial inducement than another.

Well if you are an airline wanting to start routes then you will have
too look at a number of things:

1. Cost - If you want too operate in the west then best failure for
money is PIK. Never mind that its 35miles from Glasgow
Also with SE money its even cheaper.
2. Pax - Well I do beleive that there is demand in Edinburgh and
Glasgow for flights, but depending on where they are wanting to go to.

3. Competition on routes - EDI does not have any competition on routes
as such. GLA has the PIK effect, which must be taken into account

I know a lot of Edinburgh folk who travel to PIK too. EDI is not a
lo-co hub and neither is GLA. What we're seeing is lo-co versus
conventional routes. If PIK didn't exist I would not automatically
assume that Ryanair et al would choose GLA over EDI.

--
Adrian

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote


"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote


Quote:
I know a lot of Edinburgh folk who travel to PIK too.

I know a lot of Glasgow folk who also use PIK. I have had four flights this
year from PIK and might shorlty be taken a few more and its with Ryanair
arghhhhhhh

Quote:
EDI is not a lo-co hub and neither is GLA.

Your right

Quote:
What we're seeing is lo-co versus conventional routes. If PIK didn't
exist I would not automatically
assume that Ryanair et al would choose GLA over EDI.

--
Adrian

If PIK did not exist I would say that Ryanair would do the same as Easyjet
i.e. use both the airports more than just the one.

There has been a lot of talk about lo-costs and there is certainly a lot
going on about Ryanair and the way that it handles itself.



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PostPosted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 7:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Glasgow fears over Edinburgh US air link dismissed Reply with quote


"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote


Quote:
If only 5% fly coming from EDI why drop the 767 service next year.

Because EDI will be a more handy airport for some of the existing
passengers.


They are not after that 5% and David cant see that. They are after all the
people that fly to the USA via a London/Amsterdam/Manchester hub airport,
thats where the big money is.

Quote:
Surely the year on year growth would have adequately filled those lost
seats.

If so, expect a bigger aircraft when it happens.

I really hope that both GLA and EDI will do well out of the routes, no
matter what others say on the EDI newsgroup. I am sure that a lot of people
want too see this happen. Its good for Scotland to have more airports with
Tx flights.

Quote:
But they would get similar assistance to do the same as continental at
EDI.I dont doubt that there is a time limitation as to how long CO
would have to retain a GLA service to keep the grants. Lets see what
happens when it expires.


There is also a time limitation for the EDI subsidy. I suspect the
duration coincides.


No doubt there are conditions for the subsidy and Jack McC was made sure
that he made the point that this EDI service was in addition to the GLA
service and not a replacement. I am sure that the money would not have been
made avaliable if CO were going too pull out of GLA.

Quote:

But these are only my opinion and as John has said Im so negative that
he isnt even going to debate the issue so after this posting Im out of
here. John is welcome to his opinions and like wise so am I. Time will
tell who is correct.

Will still continue to read but not post.

That's you decision, no-one elses.

It certainly is, but he should not be so negative so much.
Quote:

--
Adrian



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