AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  GLA<>GIB anyone? Goto page 1, 2  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message John Dundas Guest Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: GLA<>GIB anyone? Hi Has anyone every flown GLA<>GIB? I am looking at doing this during the summer. The trip will be (if it goes ahead) GLA<>LGW LGW<>GIB and the same coming back. Now that I have opened up a BA Family account we are looking at also earning a good few thousand miles for the trip, which will go into the pot for our trip to Oz. What experience of GIB have you had? After all the years I had in the navy, the only European base I did not work at or even visit was GIB. We are looking at hiring a car and going to over to Spain and also looking at a small trip to North Africa if possible. Anyway, if anyone has done this sort of thing would appreciate any feedback. regards Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? "John Dundas" <j.m.dundas11111111111ssss (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Hi Has anyone every flown GLA<>GIB? I am looking at doing this during the summer. The trip will be (if it goes ahead) GLA<>LGW LGW<>GIB and the same coming back. Now that I have opened up a BA Family account we are looking at also earning a good few thousand miles for the trip, which will go into the pot for our trip to Oz. What experience of GIB have you had? After all the years I had in the navy, the only European base I did not work at or even visit was GIB. We are looking at hiring a car and going to over to Spain and also looking at a small trip to North Africa if possible. Anyway, if anyone has done this sort of thing would appreciate any feedback. regards Hola John I flew LGW-GIB 18 years ago on a Britannia 737. Nothing much to report about the airport other than the short runway requiring heavy breaking on landing and the terminal being minute. All I recall is the heat hitting us when we got to the aircraft steps to disembark and the awsome rock towering over. The place itself I found very grubby and totally industrial due to the docks which dominate. I wasn't impressed with the whole British thing which some find romantic. Some of the residential back streets were slums IIRC. On one of my trips up the rock I watched as 3 US Navy ships were berthing. That night the town was overun with thirsty sailors who lowered the tone further. One day I took a walk over the border into La Linea (mainly so I could walk across the GIB runway) but La Linea was like a flavella and wasn't a pleasant place to be. I can't recommend Gibraltar at all I'm afraid and not many choose it for a holiday destination. If you are hiring a car, a direct flight to Malaga and a base on the Costa del Sol would be much better and you could still visit Gib for the day and make that crossing to Morocco. Sorry for the poor appraisal but it was a long time ago and the place may be more pleasant now but I'd tend to avoid it for anything more than a few hours. Clive Back to top hiddelston@yahoo.co.uk Guest Posted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? John I agree with Clive, Gib doesn't have the aura that it had when I visited as a wee boy forty years ago, it felt like a wee outpost of the British Empire then. My wife and I visited for the day a couple of years ago in December and although enjoyable I wouldn't fancy staying there as it gets very busy with daytrippers looking for duty free goods and has become too touristy. Having a car is a nuisance as parking is hellish and there are long queues to get in or out through customs. Crawford Back to top John Reid Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 10:34 am    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? wrote in message <1139092545.674308.216910 (AT) g14g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com> : Quote: John I agree with Clive, Gib doesn't have the aura that it had when I visited as a wee boy forty years ago, it felt like a wee outpost of the British Empire then. My wife and I visited for the day a couple of years ago in December and although enjoyable I wouldn't fancy staying there as it gets very busy with daytrippers looking for duty free goods and has become too touristy. Having a car is a nuisance as parking is hellish and there are long queues to get in or out through customs. Crawford Sadly, I am also going to agree with the previous posters. Went to the Rock on a day trip twice from Tangier about 10 years when I was there working (mainly to escape from the very foreign feeling Morocco!) and I did not much enjoy the experience. Having "done" the rock itself and then spent time in the town, the only reason I went back a second time was to get some whisky! It is a very strange feeling place, and I felt it was seedy and somewhat down at heel. Very much dominated by a naval past, and with impressive docks, but the town feels very much "out of time" and from a bygone era. I not recommend it, other than for a very short trip to add to your tourist score. -- John Mail sent to the reply address will be binned automatically. Use my name with the domain (@+the rest) Back to top tamthehun Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 5:51 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? John Dundas wrote: Quote: Hi Has anyone every flown GLA<>GIB? I am looking at doing this during the summer. The trip will be (if it goes ahead) GLA<>LGW LGW<>GIB and the same coming back. I flew Manchester - Gib last spring with Monarch - short flight and it was OK. Gib as somebody else says is a throwback in time - a bit like the Falkland Islands Dont go for more than a week or your be bore rigid. A long weekend would be enough :-) Tom Back to top dagspot Guest Posted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:05 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? tamthehun wrote: Quote: John Dundas wrote: Hi Has anyone every flown GLA<>GIB? I am looking at doing this during the summer. The trip will be (if it goes ahead) GLA<>LGW LGW<>GIB and the same coming back. I flew Manchester - Gib last spring with Monarch - short flight and it was OK. Gib as somebody else says is a throwback in time - a bit like the Falkland Islands Dont go for more than a week or your be bore rigid. A long weekend would be enough :-) Tom Estapona along the coast is supposed to be lovely Back to top Jim Mason Guest Posted: Mon Feb 06, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? In article <ds60bu$au5$1 (AT) nwrdmz03 (DOT) dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, [email]dagspot (AT) btinternet (DOT) com[/email] says... Quote: tamthehun wrote: John Dundas wrote: Hi Has anyone every flown GLA<>GIB? I am looking at doing this during the summer. The trip will be (if it goes ahead) GLA<>LGW LGW<>GIB and the same coming back. I flew Manchester - Gib last spring with Monarch - short flight and it was OK. Gib as somebody else says is a throwback in time - a bit like the Falkland Islands Dont go for more than a week or your be bore rigid. A long weekend would be enough :-) Tom Estapona along the coast is supposed to be lovely Yes it was a toss-up this year between there and Mijas Pueblo. Opted for Mijas as it is bit more central though a bit wee compared to Estapona. Jim Back to top jimwatt@talk21.com Guest Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 11:24 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? 18 years ago is a VERY long time, since then Gibraltar has changed totally, as has La Lineá Gibraltar now is very tourist orientated and 7 million visitors a year come here see: http://www.gibraltar.gov.gi for some reasons why. The queues at the frontier are currently short as the Spanish have stopped being obstructive Jim watt www.gibnet.com Back to top Mister Niceguy Guest Posted: Thu Feb 09, 2006 9:47 am    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? [email]jimwatt (AT) talk21 (DOT) com[/email] wrote in news:1139441049.085346.26160 @f14g2000cwb.googlegroups.com: Quote: 18 years ago is a VERY long time, since then Gibraltar has changed totally, as has La Lineá Gibraltar now is very tourist orientated and 7 million visitors a year come here see: http://www.gibraltar.gov.gi for some reasons why. The queues at the frontier are currently short as the Spanish have stopped being obstructive Well their attitude sometimes changes. Gibraltar is a thorn in their side, literally, which I think is a bit rich for a country with two enclaves of its own across the Straits in Morocco. Isn't the airport one of those which pokes out into the sea? Back to top John Reid Guest Posted: Fri Feb 10, 2006 9:45 am    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? Mister Niceguy wrote in message <Xns976563A5846BDniceguyonzetnet (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119> : Quote: Well their attitude sometimes changes. Gibraltar is a thorn in their side, literally, which I think is a bit rich for a country with two enclaves of its own across the Straits in Morocco. Isn't the airport one of those which pokes out into the sea? Yes, I think it is actually the fact that they are in the same position which sometimes makes the reactions even more extreme. I notice the Spanish PM has been visiting the "overseas" bits of Spain recently, which may be the reason for the more relaxed attitude. ISTR the airport sticks out into the sea on both sides! -- John Mail sent to the reply address will be binned automatically. Use my name with the domain (@+the rest) Back to top jimwatt@talk21.com Guest Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 6:34 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? John Reid wrote: Quote: Mister Niceguy wrote in message Xns976563A5846BDniceguyonzetnet (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119> : Well their attitude sometimes changes. Gibraltar is a thorn in their side, literally, which I think is a bit rich for a country with two enclaves of its own across the Straits in Morocco. Isn't the airport one of those which pokes out into the sea? Yes, I think it is actually the fact that they are in the same position which sometimes makes the reactions even more extreme. I notice the Spanish PM has been visiting the "overseas" bits of Spain recently, which may be the reason for the more relaxed attitude. ISTR the airport sticks out into the sea on both sides! I don't know why Spain should consider Gibraltar 'a thorn in its side' or as it is referred to 'a stone in their shoe' as we don't actually cause them any problems and provide a lot of employment in the otherwise depressed area. The situation with Gibraltar is quite different to Ceuta and Melilla as we are economically self-sufficient and they are not. The runway does indeed turn into water at both ends, and has a road up the middle so traffic has to stop for planes. Otherwise, Gibraltar has a lot of interesting history and the advantage that everyone speaks English and there is negligable crime. We even have to import burglars from across the border. -- Jim Watt www.gibnet.com Quote: -- John Mail sent to the reply address will be binned automatically. Use my name with the domain (@+the rest) Back to top Mike Guest Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 8:18 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? Tongue firmly in cheek. Lets turn thinga around a bit. I don't know why England should consider Dover 'a thorn in its side' or as it is referred to 'a stone in their shoe' as we don't actually cause them any problems and provide a lot of employment in the otherwise depressed area. The situation with Dover is quite different to Ceuta and Melilla as we are economically self-sufficient and they are not. Otherwise, Dover has a lot of interesting history and the advantage that everyone speaks Spanish and there is negligable crime. We even have to import burglars from across the border. Mike Back to top Mister Niceguy Guest Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? [email]jimwatt (AT) talk21 (DOT) com[/email] wrote in news:1139769284.839949.148150 @g47g2000cwa.googlegroups.com: Quote: John Reid wrote: Mister Niceguy wrote in message Xns976563A5846BDniceguyonzetnet (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119> : Well their attitude sometimes changes. Gibraltar is a thorn in their side, literally, which I think is a bit rich for a country with two enclaves of its own across the Straits in Morocco. Isn't the airport one of those which pokes out into the sea? Yes, I think it is actually the fact that they are in the same position which sometimes makes the reactions even more extreme. I notice the Spanish PM has been visiting the "overseas" bits of Spain recently, which may be the reason for the more relaxed attitude. ISTR the airport sticks out into the sea on both sides! I don't know why Spain should consider Gibraltar 'a thorn in its side' or as it is referred to 'a stone in their shoe' as we don't actually cause them any problems and provide a lot of employment in the otherwise depressed area. The situation with Gibraltar is quite different to Ceuta and Melilla as we are economically self-sufficient and they are not. The runway does indeed turn into water at both ends, and has a road up the middle so traffic has to stop for planes. Otherwise, Gibraltar has a lot of interesting history and the advantage that everyone speaks English and there is negligable crime. We even have to import burglars from across the border. I agree with all that you say. History has thrown up many quirks of political geography. I don't subscribe to the arguement that sovereignty should follow proximity either. As long as the people want to be, in your case, British then that's good enough for me. There are "islands" of Belgium in the Netherlands and vice versa. And IIRC there's an "island" of Spain in France (or is it the other way round?) Back to top John Dundas Guest Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? Hi Folks, Thanks for all the replies/comments about GIB. Well we are now looking at some other options including staying in Spain and using that as a base. So now looking at various options for that. regards Back to top Jim Mason Guest Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 10:59 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA<>GIB anyone? In article <dsocpl$dg2$1 (AT) nwrdmz01 (DOT) dmz.ncs.ea.ibs-infra.bt.com>, [email]j.m.dundas11111111111ssss (AT) btinternet (DOT) com[/email] says... Quote: Hi Folks, Thanks for all the replies/comments about GIB. Well we are now looking at some other options including staying in Spain and using that as a base. So now looking at various options for that. Check out http://www.mijas-villas.com/ and http://www.estepona-villas.com/ Jim Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2   Jump to: Select a forum Aviation----------------alt.aviationAviation safety EnhancementPlanes, gliders and flying in AustraliaAviation et pilotage (Français)rec.aviationAviation (Aerobatics)Hot air, gas balloons and airshipsHang-gliding, paragliding, foot-launched flightAircraft Design & BuildingInstrument Flight RulesAviation (Classifieds)Military AircraftNaval AviationAviation (Miscellaneous Topics)Owning AirplanesAviators (General Discussions)Aviation related productsAircraft RestorationHelicopters and rotary wing aircraftsFlight SimulationSailplanesAviation (Students)Light aircraftFlying related activities in the UK Airports----------------alt.airportsEdinburgh Airport Glasgow Airport Humberside Airport Luton Airport Aberdeen Airport Glasgow Prestwick Airport  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.