AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  GLA Newsgroup. Goto page 1, 2  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Blimpie Guest Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 8:39 pm    Post subject: GLA Newsgroup. Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 10:37 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 @titan.btinternet.com: Quote: Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Are there any other airport newsgroups? -- Adrian Back to top Blimpie Guest Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 @titan.btinternet.com: Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Are there any other airport newsgroups? A Turnhouse one, a Glasgow Prestwick International one, a Luton one, and a Humberside International one, Blimps Quote: -- Adrian Back to top Gusty Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. Adrian Tupper <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 @titan.btinternet.com: Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Are there any other airport newsgroups? Are there any other airports ? Gusty Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. [email]david (AT) davidspence (DOT) co.uk[/email] (Gusty) wrote in news:8229223a.0312230303.1a4417b0 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com: Quote: Adrian Tupper <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns9459E61FF166Fz (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119>... "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 @titan.btinternet.com: Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Are there any other airport newsgroups? Are there any other airports ? Gusty To the blinkered, no. -- Adrian Back to top Andrew Crawford Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 3:11 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. In article <8229223a.0312230303.1a4417b0 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, Gusty says... Quote: Are there any other airports ? Yeah.. there's that tiny little place out to the East. Very basic facilities, landing aircraft need to backtrack on the runway, VERY crude air traffic control system (no radar). What's it called? Cumbernauld! Andrew -- Andrew Crawford Email: acrawford <at> <the people who defined ethernet> . org Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 5:47 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: david (AT) davidspence (DOT) co.uk (Gusty) wrote in news:8229223a.0312230303.1a4417b0 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com: Adrian Tupper <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns9459E61FF166Fz (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119>... "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 @titan.btinternet.com: Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Are there any other airport newsgroups? Are there any other airports ? Gusty To the blinkered, no. If there are no other airports, what would be the point in having one in Glasgow? Where would it offer flights to? ;-) Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:Vc% Fb.808$af4.181 (AT) news-binary (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk: Quote: "Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:Xns945A7B6735EAFz (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119... [email]david (AT) davidspence (DOT) co.uk[/email] (Gusty) wrote in news:8229223a.0312230303.1a4417b0 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com: Adrian Tupper <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:<Xns9459E61FF166Fz (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119>... "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 @titan.btinternet.com: Surely this GLA Newsgroup has more topical and subject relevant posts/material than any other British airport newsgroup? Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Blimps Are there any other airport newsgroups? Are there any other airports ? Gusty To the blinkered, no. If there are no other airports, what would be the point in having one in Glasgow? Where would it offer flights to? I like your lateral thinming Callum. It's like the story that it wasn't the first telephone which was the most important invention this world has seen but the second one. -- Adrian Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. Andrew Crawford <check_signature (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in news:bs9luj09ah (AT) drn (DOT) newsguy.com: Quote: In article <8229223a.0312230303.1a4417b0 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>, Gusty says... Are there any other airports ? Yeah.. there's that tiny little place out to the East. Very basic facilities, landing aircraft need to backtrack on the runway, VERY crude air traffic control system (no radar). What's it called? Cumbernauld! Ah, so that's where those Continental, PIA, Emirates and Zoom flights head for then. I've often wondered. -- Adrian Back to top Andrew Crawford Guest Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 1:08 am    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. Quote: Ah, so that's where those Continental, PIA, Emirates and Zoom flights head for then. I've often wondered. It'd be a very strange emergency indeed which had any of those landing on EGPG's 900 meter runway :) Andrew -- Andrew Crawford Email: acrawford <at> <the people who defined ethernet> . org Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:39 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. Andrew Crawford <check_signature (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote in news:bsaouj0ivd (AT) drn (DOT) newsguy.com: Quote: Ah, so that's where those Continental, PIA, Emirates and Zoom flights head for then. I've often wondered. It'd be a very strange emergency indeed which had any of those landing on EGPG's 900 meter runway :) Andrew A real magnet for spotters if they tried... -- Adrian Back to top Hans Knees Guest Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 7:51 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Unterzeichnet zu durch vorderstem illusionists.? Hände-oben die, die das unterzeichnen, liegen wirklich in Glasgow? Wenn sie nicht in Glasgow warum liegen? Beschämt? Parochiale Dummköpfe Kirsty Scott Guardian Thursday August 16, 2001 A line has been drawn across Scotland this past week. On one side sits Edinburgh, glorying in the festival, that annual celebration of art and intellect that fills the streets with talent and multicultural revelry. On the other sits Glasgow, seemingly blighted by a culture of racial intolerance; demonised; and vilified. It is a tale of two cities and an age-old rivalry. Friends of the late Donald Dewar like to tell how his spirits would lift visibly when his ministerial car reached that stretch of the M8 motorway where the sprawling skyline of Glasgow first came into view. Dewar loved his home town and never let diplomacy mask his preference for it over Edinburgh where politics and power lay. Glaswegians, so the cliche goes, see Edinburgh as pinched and haughty, an inhospitable place where sex is something your coal comes in and hats must be worn for afternoon tea. The citizens of the capital - never so uncouth as to have their own brand name - see "Weegies" as a coarse breed from a lawless town, low-slung, pugilistic and soap-averse. It has all been good, clean fun, mostly. But the terrible death of Firsat Dag on Glasgow's Sighthill estate has destroyed the notion of traditional civic competition. Glasgow's name is mud: racist, thuggish, riddled with deprivation and despair. Even Michael Kelly, the former lord provost, has turned on the city he once helped promote. "Glasgow, in its treatment of asylum seekers, has proved itself to be as unpleasant, hard and nasty as all the old cliches defined it," he said. Meanwhile, Edinburgh is experiencing an economic and social renaissance. The day after Firsat Dag died, the European Economic Research Consortium named Edinburgh as one of the top-20 fastest-growing cities in Europe, ahead of London. The EERC said that the city's world-class financial sector and the birth of the Scottish parliament were key influences in its rapidly growing prosperity. And what better way to celebrate that with the festival, the city's showcase for all that is positive and uplifting? So the game's over then, and Glasgow has lost. But the field has never been level. While Edinburgh has built steadily on a solid financial base, Glasgow has struggled with the transition from a manufacturing base to a service industry. Employment is rising in Edinburgh, but falling in Glasgow; household incomes are above average in the capital and below average in Glasgow. Edinburgh is enjoying a housing boom; Glasgow presides over some of the worst housing in the UK, with only a quarter of its 94,000 council homes at an acceptable standard. Glasgow is poor. And it is poor in large part because, unlike Edinburgh, the majority of professionals who fill the fancy offices of the city centre take their taxpayers' money with them when they head home to flats and houses outside the city's limits and financial reach. But when it came to offering homes to asylum seekers, Glasgow raised its hand and not simply, as the cynics have claimed, because it would mean money for empty property. This is still a working-class community and there is a long tradition of support for oppressed peoples around the world. Edinburgh's excuse for sidestepping the dispersal scheme was that any empty council flats they could offer were unexpectedly filled by residents who had been moved because of subsidence. Perhaps, unlike Glasgow, it had thought through the implications of moving vulnerable people into already disadvantaged communities. Last year, a study of Edinburgh's economic success found a major problem of social exclusion; large tranches of the city were being left behind. Places like Craigmillar, where the charred body of a newborn boy was discovered discarded amongst litter earlier this year. Unlike Edinburgh, Glasgow has never hidden its problems. This week they have been multiplied and magnified; intolerance borne of economic jealousy and labelled as raw racial prejudice. Too many in Glasgow may be consumed by it, but the city can't be defined by it. This past week, as anti-racist protesters marched on George Square, there was another demonstration taking place in Glasgow. Like Sighthill, Govanhill sits well beneath the poverty line. Like Sighthill, it is a racially diverse community. For the past five months its residents have occupied the local swimming baths, closed by the city council in March. The people of Govanhill want to keep it, chiefly because it is the only facility in Glasgow with a secluded pool where Muslim women can bathe. The protesters have drawn up plans for a community centre with therapy pools for the disabled, and discreet bathing facilities for the 400 local homes that don't have a bath or a shower. Their protest was briefly hijacked last week by outside agitators but this has been Glasgow at its best; noisy, opinionated, roused by injustice. Donald Dewar would have understood. He would have known that for all the city could sometimes seem to have lost its way, it could never completely lose its heart. .. Kirsty Scott is the Guardian's Scottish correspondent Back to top Blimpie Guest Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. I'll leave this for others to comment on Ado...sorry, 'Hans'.... Blimps "Hans Knees" <hansKnees (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Blimpie" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message news:bs7kqr$ieq$1 (AT) titan (DOT) btinternet.com... Britains foremost airport newsgroup methinks. Unterzeichnet zu durch vorderstem illusionists.? Hände-oben die, die das unterzeichnen, liegen wirklich in Glasgow? Wenn sie nicht in Glasgow warum liegen? Beschämt? Parochiale Dummköpfe Kirsty Scott Guardian Thursday August 16, 2001 A line has been drawn across Scotland this past week. On one side sits Edinburgh, glorying in the festival, that annual celebration of art and intellect that fills the streets with talent and multicultural revelry. On the other sits Glasgow, seemingly blighted by a culture of racial intolerance; demonised; and vilified. It is a tale of two cities and an age-old rivalry. Friends of the late Donald Dewar like to tell how his spirits would lift visibly when his ministerial car reached that stretch of the M8 motorway where the sprawling skyline of Glasgow first came into view. Dewar loved his home town and never let diplomacy mask his preference for it over Edinburgh where politics and power lay. Glaswegians, so the cliche goes, see Edinburgh as pinched and haughty, an inhospitable place where sex is something your coal comes in and hats must be worn for afternoon tea. The citizens of the capital - never so uncouth as to have their own brand name - see "Weegies" as a coarse breed from a lawless town, low-slung, pugilistic and soap-averse. It has all been good, clean fun, mostly. But the terrible death of Firsat Dag on Glasgow's Sighthill estate has destroyed the notion of traditional civic competition. Glasgow's name is mud: racist, thuggish, riddled with deprivation and despair. Even Michael Kelly, the former lord provost, has turned on the city he once helped promote. "Glasgow, in its treatment of asylum seekers, has proved itself to be as unpleasant, hard and nasty as all the old cliches defined it," he said. Meanwhile, Edinburgh is experiencing an economic and social renaissance. The day after Firsat Dag died, the European Economic Research Consortium named Edinburgh as one of the top-20 fastest-growing cities in Europe, ahead of London. The EERC said that the city's world-class financial sector and the birth of the Scottish parliament were key influences in its rapidly growing prosperity. And what better way to celebrate that with the festival, the city's showcase for all that is positive and uplifting? So the game's over then, and Glasgow has lost. But the field has never been level. While Edinburgh has built steadily on a solid financial base, Glasgow has struggled with the transition from a manufacturing base to a service industry. Employment is rising in Edinburgh, but falling in Glasgow; household incomes are above average in the capital and below average in Glasgow. Edinburgh is enjoying a housing boom; Glasgow presides over some of the worst housing in the UK, with only a quarter of its 94,000 council homes at an acceptable standard. Glasgow is poor. And it is poor in large part because, unlike Edinburgh, the majority of professionals who fill the fancy offices of the city centre take their taxpayers' money with them when they head home to flats and houses outside the city's limits and financial reach. But when it came to offering homes to asylum seekers, Glasgow raised its hand and not simply, as the cynics have claimed, because it would mean money for empty property. This is still a working-class community and there is a long tradition of support for oppressed peoples around the world. Edinburgh's excuse for sidestepping the dispersal scheme was that any empty council flats they could offer were unexpectedly filled by residents who had been moved because of subsidence. Perhaps, unlike Glasgow, it had thought through the implications of moving vulnerable people into already disadvantaged communities. Last year, a study of Edinburgh's economic success found a major problem of social exclusion; large tranches of the city were being left behind. Places like Craigmillar, where the charred body of a newborn boy was discovered discarded amongst litter earlier this year. Unlike Edinburgh, Glasgow has never hidden its problems. This week they have been multiplied and magnified; intolerance borne of economic jealousy and labelled as raw racial prejudice. Too many in Glasgow may be consumed by it, but the city can't be defined by it. This past week, as anti-racist protesters marched on George Square, there was another demonstration taking place in Glasgow. Like Sighthill, Govanhill sits well beneath the poverty line. Like Sighthill, it is a racially diverse community. For the past five months its residents have occupied the local swimming baths, closed by the city council in March. The people of Govanhill want to keep it, chiefly because it is the only facility in Glasgow with a secluded pool where Muslim women can bathe. The protesters have drawn up plans for a community centre with therapy pools for the disabled, and discreet bathing facilities for the 400 local homes that don't have a bath or a shower. Their protest was briefly hijacked last week by outside agitators but this has been Glasgow at its best; noisy, opinionated, roused by injustice. Donald Dewar would have understood. He would have known that for all the city could sometimes seem to have lost its way, it could never completely lose its heart. . Kirsty Scott is the Guardian's Scottish correspondent Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:27 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Hans Knees" <hansKnees (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in news:bsi3f8$cj2vf$1 (AT) ID-218984 (DOT) news.uni-berlin.de: Quote: Unterzeichnet zu durch vorderstem illusionists.? Under the sink you dump wandering magicians. Quote: H„nde-oben die, die You open it with your hands Quote: das unterzeichnen, liegen wirklich in Glasgow? Wenn sie nicht in the sink,that is, and you are wizarded to Glasgow. When at night you see Quote: Glasgow warum liegen? Besch„mt? Glasgow at its warmest. Buckfast? Quote: Parochiale Dummk”pfe Open-minded intelligentia ;-) -- Adrian Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Sat Dec 27, 2003 12:26 am    Post subject: Re: GLA Newsgroup. "Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: "Hans Knees" <hansKnees (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote in Parochiale Dummk"pfe Open-minded intelligentia ;-) -- Adrian LOL Adrian. Hilarious! 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