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David Kerr
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 12:16 pm    Post subject: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote



I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!
Does anyone (Clive?) know if LH and GLA have been talking? I would
have thought it would have become more likely now that they are
upgrading the MAN-MUC service to 737s from the CRJs that serviced us
previously.

David
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Joe Curry
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 1:24 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote



The message <91458db5.0402200416.6629fb86 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com>
from [email]david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net[/email] (David Kerr) contains these words:

Quote:
I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!

Perhaps LH want to put all their Scottish eggs in the EDI basket.?

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Gernot Egger
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 2:19 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote



David Kerr wrote:
Quote:
I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!

Well, that happens! :-)

Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana are at least major cities! Look on the
destinations Austrian is flying from VIE! There you have destinations you
have never heard of! And not a single flight from VIE to Scotland!

lg Gernot



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Iain
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 4:32 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!
Does anyone (Clive?) know if LH and GLA have been talking? I would
have thought it would have become more likely now that they are
upgrading the MAN-MUC service to 737s from the CRJs that serviced us
previously.

David

I was just thinking the same myself - I believe they're also starting
MUC-Lille and FRA- Talinn flights as well!

There has been much speculation over LH GLA-MUC for the last 18 months or
so. In response to your question, yes, the airport have definately had talks
with LH about this route - the MD stated last April in an interview with The
Herald that these were taking place. It was also suggested elsewhere that
such a route was immanent.

Unfortunately since then the trail seems to have gone cold :-(





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Joe Curry
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote

The message <c15cqo$1vc$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>
from "Iain" <iain2004 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words:


Quote:
There has been much speculation over LH GLA-MUC for the last 18 months or
so. In response to your question, yes, the airport have definately had talks
with LH about this route - the MD stated last April in an interview with The
Herald that these were taking place.

Let's get something right here..EDI gets medium/short haul and GLA gets
long-haul.. Am I missing something or does GLA want it all.?

No disrespect to you Ian..just posing a question. :-)

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Callum Johnstone
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
The message <c15cqo$1vc$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com
from "Iain"

There has been much speculation over LH GLA-MUC for the last 18 months
or
so. In response to your question, yes, the airport have definately had
talks
with LH about this route - the MD stated last April in an interview with
The
Herald that these were taking place.

Let's get something right here..EDI gets medium/short haul and GLA gets
long-haul.. Am I missing something or does GLA want it all.?

Am I missing something?

GLA - AMS/CPH

EDI - YYZ/EWR?



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BLIMPS
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 5:56 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
The message <c15cqo$1vc$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com
from "Iain"

There has been much speculation over LH GLA-MUC for the last 18 months
or
so. In response to your question, yes, the airport have definately had
talks
with LH about this route - the MD stated last April in an interview with
The
Herald that these were taking place.

Let's get something right here..EDI gets medium/short haul and GLA gets
long-haul.. Am I missing something or does GLA want it all.?

EDI-EWR is 'short-haul? Oh, I just remembered, wasn't it you who wants GLA
closed and turned into a housing estate and all services transferred to EDI
therefore YOU want it ALL for EDI, oh yes, so it was, silly old Blimps...

BLIMPS



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Joe Curry
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote

The message <kPrZb.9343$YY6.6324 (AT) news-binary (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> contains
these words:

Quote:
Let's get something right here..EDI gets medium/short haul and GLA gets
long-haul.. Am I missing something or does GLA want it all.?

Am I missing something?

GLA - AMS/CPH

How old is that route.? Before BAA took over from the airport authority.?

Quote:
EDI - YYZ/EWR?

Sweetners.... Now count GLA's long-haul....

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Joe Curry
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 6:33 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote

The message <c15hor$b1u$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>
from "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words:


Quote:
Let's get something right here..EDI gets medium/short haul and GLA gets
long-haul.. Am I missing something or does GLA want it all.?

EDI-EWR is 'short-haul? Oh, I just remembered, wasn't it you who wants GLA
closed and turned into a housing estate and all services transferred to EDI
therefore YOU want it ALL for EDI, oh yes, so it was, silly old Blimps...

Over-exaggerating is a common trait in this newsgroup..

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GLAsgow PrestwIcK
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote

No Joe Blimps is spot on you think EDI is the centre of the universe.
Every thread that has been started that has NOTHING to do with EDI you
always have to open you big mouth with EDI this and that Joe…………….PISS
OFF
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Clive Braham
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 10:28 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!
Does anyone (Clive?) know if LH and GLA have been talking? I would
have thought it would have become more likely now that they are
upgrading the MAN-MUC service to 737s from the CRJs that serviced us
previously.

David

Hi David. No I haven't heard a peep since LH were in the press saying they
were interested in GLA.

But it doesn't surprise me they are adding 2 Polish cities and 1 in Albania
from MUC. I wouldn't take that as a snub for Scotland.

For the future I would expect FRA before MUC although LH are steadily
building their hub at MUC and might be wary of quasi-competition from
Ryanair on the PIK-Hahn route. That is the "PIK effect" in operation but we
know that 70% of the EDI-FRA pax are connecting onwards and LH are losing
out on potential market share to KLM and BA from the West of Scotland. There
is no catagorisation as Joe would have us believe and these services will
all come in the fullness of time.

Clive



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John Dundas
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:
The message <c15hor$b1u$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com
from "BLIMPS"

Let's get something right here..EDI gets medium/short haul and GLA
gets
long-haul.. Am I missing something or does GLA want it all.?

EDI-EWR is 'short-haul? Oh, I just remembered, wasn't it you who wants
GLA
closed and turned into a housing estate and all services transferred to
EDI
therefore YOU want it ALL for EDI, oh yes, so it was, silly old
Blimps...

Over-exaggerating is a common trait in this newsgroup..

No the common trait in this newsgroup is that you attack GLA at every
opportunity you can get. Its as simple as that.



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Iain
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:15 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

Quote:

"David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:91458db5.0402200416.6629fb86 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!
Does anyone (Clive?) know if LH and GLA have been talking? I would
have thought it would have become more likely now that they are
upgrading the MAN-MUC service to 737s from the CRJs that serviced us
previously.

David

Hi David. No I haven't heard a peep since LH were in the press saying they
were interested in GLA.

But it doesn't surprise me they are adding 2 Polish cities and 1 in
Albania
from MUC. I wouldn't take that as a snub for Scotland.

For the future I would expect FRA before MUC although LH are steadily
building their hub at MUC and might be wary of quasi-competition from
Ryanair on the PIK-Hahn route. That is the "PIK effect" in operation but
we
know that 70% of the EDI-FRA pax are connecting onwards and LH are losing
out on potential market share to KLM and BA from the West of Scotland.
There
is no catagorisation as Joe would have us believe and these services will
all come in the fullness of time.

Clive


At last a sensible post in the thread - bravo! I'm straining every sinew
trying to stop myself replying to the disgraceful nonsense that certain
other posters are flooding this ng with :-(

Talking about FRA, the first thing I saw about it was an article in the
Sunday Herald biz section, but that was ages ago. However I remember the
person from LH claiming that EDI-FRA was as high as 85% transfer traffic! He
also said that cause of this he felt an LH GLA-FRA flight would be serving a
different market to FR and hence they were not a worry.

It seems to be later that attention switched to MUC (is FRA not heavily
congested - maybe they can't get slots?). As far as MUC goes, perhaps duos
announcement of EDI-MUC may spur them into some action?

BTW, I do think Albania is a bit of a snub ;-)



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colin.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:25 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"GLAsgow PrestwIcK" <glaandpik (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
No Joe Blimps is spot on you think EDI is the centre of the universe.
Every thread that has been started that has NOTHING to do with EDI you
always have to open you big mouth with EDI this and that Joe......PISS
OFF

Jon, this is for you: www.eatabagofdicks.com

stop being an arse pirate.



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Clive Braham
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2004 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA-Munich propects? Reply with quote


"Iain" <iain2004 (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:c161nd$f5r$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk...

"David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:91458db5.0402200416.6629fb86 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com...
I find it hard to believe that the proposed new Lufthansa routes from
Munich using CRJs include Krakow, Gdansk and Tirana rather than GLA!
Does anyone (Clive?) know if LH and GLA have been talking? I would
have thought it would have become more likely now that they are
upgrading the MAN-MUC service to 737s from the CRJs that serviced us
previously.

David

Hi David. No I haven't heard a peep since LH were in the press saying
they
were interested in GLA.

But it doesn't surprise me they are adding 2 Polish cities and 1 in
Albania
from MUC. I wouldn't take that as a snub for Scotland.

For the future I would expect FRA before MUC although LH are steadily
building their hub at MUC and might be wary of quasi-competition from
Ryanair on the PIK-Hahn route. That is the "PIK effect" in operation but
we
know that 70% of the EDI-FRA pax are connecting onwards and LH are
losing
out on potential market share to KLM and BA from the West of Scotland.
There
is no catagorisation as Joe would have us believe and these services
will
all come in the fullness of time.

Clive


At last a sensible post in the thread - bravo! I'm straining every sinew
trying to stop myself replying to the disgraceful nonsense that certain
other posters are flooding this ng with Sad



Thanks Iain. I'd rather talk about the airline industry any day.

Quote:

Talking about FRA, the first thing I saw about it was an article in the
Sunday Herald biz section, but that was ages ago. However I remember the
person from LH claiming that EDI-FRA was as high as 85% transfer traffic!
He
also said that cause of this he felt an LH GLA-FRA flight would be serving
a
different market to FR and hence they were not a worry.

Ah yes just my thoughts. Here's hoping they are still up for it. The lack of
slots led to the demise of the short lived GLA-FRA route. Once a day
arriving FRA mid afternoon with a 150 seat 737 aircraft was no good for most
of those connecting pax. It tends to be different these days with smaller
aircraft doing multiple frequencies and therefore tying in with many more
connections.

Quote:

It seems to be later that attention switched to MUC (is FRA not heavily
congested - maybe they can't get slots?). As far as MUC goes, perhaps duos
announcement of EDI-MUC may spur them into some action?

BTW, I do think Albania is a bit of a snub ;-)



You'll be surprised how many Albanians live in Germany. ;-)

Clive



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