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Posted: Tue Jul 26, 2005 11:19 pm Post subject: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/scotland.cfm?id=1682122005&20050726224037
Glasgow Airport rolls out future as revamp unveiled
ALASTAIR DALTON
TRANSPORT CORRESPONDENT
A RADICAL revamp of Scotland's largest airport was unveiled yesterday
that will include a major expansion and significant changes to the main
terminal building.
A glass-fronted railway station could be incorporated into the enlarged
Glasgow Airport complex by 2009 to cope with soaring passenger numbers.
The £250 million plan also includes extending the check-in hall, with
the domestic baggage reclaim area moved to the west side of the
building. The front of the terminal will be brought out as far as the
multi-storey car park, with a second car park built within ten years.
The details are part of a blueprint published by BAA Scotland, the
airport's operator, to accommodate an expected increase in passengers
from 8.7 million to between 12 million and 14 million by 2015, and up
to 24 million by 2030.
A second terminal could even be created by 2015, although BAA said it
would duplicate resources. Space for a second runway has been set
aside, although BAA believes that this will not be required "for a very
long time", if at all. The government said in 2003 that there was no
clear case for one.
The airport's 5,500 workforce is projected to rise to 8,200 in ten
years and to 12,100 by 2030.
The rail link from Glasgow Central, expected to be completed by early
2009, would include track curving into a first-floor airport station at
the southern end of the existing multi-storey car park.
Passengers would transfer to the terminal on travellators along the
eastern edge of the car park, with a new bridge over the current
vehicle forecourt.
The first stage of the expansion of the airport, which celebrates its
40th birthday next year, is a £6 million extension of the
international wing, which will be completed this autumn.
The check-in hall expansion and reconfiguration of the terminal to
bring domestic and international baggage together is expected to follow
within five years. Vehicle access would be restricted to road loops at
either end of the terminal, with links to the M8 motorway improved.
By 2015, a second international pier will be added to the west of the
terminal to accommodate more aircraft.
Stephen Baxter, the airport's managing director, said he aimed to keep
Glasgow "top of the pile", even though Edinburgh airport is forecast to
outgrow it. He said: "We have ten times as many long-haul passengers
than any other airport in Scotland, and that's what we intend to focus
on."
Donal Dowds, BAA Scotland's managing director, conceded that the
expansion would come at a price: "There is no such thing as a silent,
successful airport - it does have an impact on the local community."
The airport's masterplan says a balance has to be struck between the
environmental impact of aviation and its benefits, such as providing
jobs.
Mr Dowds said new security equipment, including X-ray machines, to
detect explosives and non-metallic ammunition, was being tested at some
of BAA's other airports.
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Clive Braham Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 12:11 am Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote
The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
Yes it struck me as very grudgingly giving the news at best. Shame. Doesn't
The Scotsman pitch itself as a national Scottish paper these days?
Clive
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Callum Johnstone Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 7:31 am Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote
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"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122419978.618497.18010 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
Yes it struck me as very grudgingly giving the news at best. Shame.
Doesn't The Scotsman pitch itself as a national Scottish paper these days?
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I don't think it's that bad, Clive? As far as EDI goes the article only
talks about the forecast passenger figures for 2030. I'm always very
confused when either BAA GLA or BAA EDI talk about wanting to be "top of the
pile" as it shouldn't really matter to BAA which airport leads in terms of
passenger figures, so long as both continue to develop and grow. GLA is in
competition with PIK, not with EDI.
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BBB Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:36 am Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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Callum Johnstone wrote:
| Quote: | "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dc6jjb$fh7$1 (AT) newsg4 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk...
"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122419978.618497.18010 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
Yes it struck me as very grudgingly giving the news at best. Shame.
Doesn't The Scotsman pitch itself as a national Scottish paper these days?
I don't think it's that bad, Clive? As far as EDI goes the article only
talks about the forecast passenger figures for 2030. I'm always very
confused when either BAA GLA or BAA EDI talk about wanting to be "top of the
pile" as it shouldn't really matter to BAA which airport leads in terms of
passenger figures, so long as both continue to develop and grow. GLA is in
competition with PIK, not with EDI.
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Try claiming that elsewhere.
B
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Jim Mason Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:44 am Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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In article <dc6jjb$fh7$1 (AT) newsg4 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>,
[email]clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk[/email] says...
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"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122419978.618497.18010 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
Yes it struck me as very grudgingly giving the news at best. Shame. Doesn't
The Scotsman pitch itself as a national Scottish paper these days?
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The Scotsman `may` pitch itself as an a national newspaper but I can
assure you as someone who reads it on a daily basis it is at times so
Edinburgh orientated it is embarrassing. The Herald is the only paper
that approaches being a national newspaper - far from perfect but you
get far more balanced news coverage and editorial content. The Scotsman
sadly since it took on it's tabloid format is behaving more and more
like a real tabloid or even worse - a local tabloid. It is no wonder the
sales have plumetted.
Jim
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Jim Mason Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 8:47 am Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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In article <XKGFe.38302$Pf3.30510 (AT) fe2 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
[email]callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk[/email] says...
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dc6jjb$fh7$1 (AT) newsg4 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk...
"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122419978.618497.18010 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
Yes it struck me as very grudgingly giving the news at best. Shame.
Doesn't The Scotsman pitch itself as a national Scottish paper these days?
I don't think it's that bad, Clive? As far as EDI goes the article only
talks about the forecast passenger figures for 2030. I'm always very
confused when either BAA GLA or BAA EDI talk about wanting to be "top of the
pile" as it shouldn't really matter to BAA which airport leads in terms of
passenger figures, so long as both continue to develop and grow.
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It matters to the individual directors of the airport I would have
thought if simply from a pride point of view if nothing else? To put the
message across from management to airport employees that `it doesn't
matter if you are top of the pile or not` is hardly motovational!
Jim
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Clive Braham Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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"Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:dc6jjb$fh7$1 (AT) newsg4 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk...
"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1122419978.618497.18010 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
The Scotsman group seems unable to report on anything without being
negative towards Glasgow/Glasgow International Airport/west coast and
always feels the need to put a pro-Edinburgh slant on every article
(5th and 12th paragraphs)...
Yes it struck me as very grudgingly giving the news at best. Shame.
Doesn't The Scotsman pitch itself as a national Scottish paper these
days?
I don't think it's that bad, Clive?
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Pretty poor if you ask me. Fine if it's for a local Edinburgh readership but
not so for a national.
As far as EDI goes the article only
| Quote: | talks about the forecast passenger figures for 2030. I'm always very
confused when either BAA GLA or BAA EDI talk about wanting to be "top of
the pile" as it shouldn't really matter to BAA which airport leads in
terms of passenger figures, so long as both continue to develop and grow.
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Obviously both companies, BAA Glasgow and BAA Edinburgh will want to be the
best they can. BAA will welcome the healthiest possible figures from both.
Mr Baxter want to be running "Europe's most successful regional airport" and
I'm pretty sure Mr Jeffrey does too.
GLA is in
| Quote: | competition with PIK, not with EDI.
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Yes that's true and something I always say.
Clive
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Scotsbeef Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:35 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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Since when has stating the truth been anti Glasgow. The very first
sentance describes Glasgow airport as being Scotland's largest - true.
The 12th paragraph states that EDI is forecast to outgrow it - also
true. As for the 5th paragraph, well isn't that true too? BAA hasn't
made plans for a second runway at GLA or EDI - simply advised that
options should be left open at both sites.
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Scotsbeef Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 4:41 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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You must be easily embarrased Jim! I am more concerned with the leap
to the right since Andra took over and busied himself turning The
Scotsman into a Daily Mail. It certainly isn't more Edinburgh-centric
that The Herald (only seems like yesterday since it was The Glasgow
Herald) is Glasgow-centric. Don't think so? Take a look at the
property page. My local paper is the P&J. Nuff said.
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Blimpee Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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The message <1122482142.505216.7840 (AT) o13g2000cwo (DOT) googlegroups.com>
from "Scotsbeef" <col.murdoch (AT) virgin (DOT) net> contains these words:
| Quote: | Since when has stating the truth been anti Glasgow. The very first
sentence describes Glasgow airport as being Scotland's largest - true.
The 12th paragraph states that EDI is forecast to outgrow it - also
true. As for the 5th paragraph, well isn't that true too? BAA hasn't
made plans for a second runway at GLA or EDI - simply advised that
options should be left open at both sites.
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I have stayed away from this newsgroup because it has a chip on it's shoulder
about EDI and Edinburgh.
Not once have the elders here taken the 'loose cannons' to task.
Yet these same elders try to censor alt.airports.uk.edinburgh, hypocrites?
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Blimpee Guest
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Posted: Wed Jul 27, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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The message <dc8cvg$cqi$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>
from "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> contains these words:
| Quote: | Obviously both companies, BAA Glasgow and BAA Edinburgh
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There is NO autonomy for EDI under BAA...
EDI cannot negotiate independently for long haul routes.. Why?
Because BAA will not provide the facilities...
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John Reid Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 5:22 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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It is written in message
<1122482484.849958.192790 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com> that Scotsbeef
sayeth :
| Quote: | My local paper is the P&J.
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In the ownership of the same holding company as the Daily Mail.
--
John
Mail sent to the reply address will be binned automatically.
Use my name with the domain (@+the rest)
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BBB Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 6:37 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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John Reid wrote:
| Quote: | It is written in message
[email]1122482484.849958.192790 (AT) g47g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com[/email]> that Scotsbeef
sayeth :
My local paper is the P&J.
In the ownership of the same holding company as the Daily Mail.
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P & J, the Parochial Journal, who's headline after the Titanic sinking
was apparently "North East man missing at sea"...
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zerouali Guest
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Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2005 7:17 pm Post subject: Re: GLA masterplan - Scotsman slant |
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| Quote: | My local paper is the P&J.
In the ownership of the same holding company as the Daily Mail.
P & J, the Parochial Journal, who's headline after the Titanic sinking
was apparently "North East man missing at sea"...
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Lol! Wouldn't surprise me! To be fair to the P & J, they are the newspaper
for the north, and don't claim to be anything else. A newspaper called "The
Scotsman" however, should represent Scotland as a whole, not just one part.
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