AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message BLIMPS Guest Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats GLA-EWR 12,608 pax - Load Factor 86.5% - 203 pax per flight. GLA-ORD 10,668 pax - Load Factor 81% - 172 pax per flight. GLA-PHL 9,928 pax - Load Factor 80.5% - 160 pax per flight. GLA-DXB 13,962 pax - Load Factor 81% - 225 pax per flight. GLA-YYZ 25,648 pax over the month - Average 827 pax per day transiting GLA to/from YYZ. BLIMPS Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote Quote: GLA-EWR 12,608 pax - Load Factor 86.5% - 203 pax per flight. GLA-ORD 10,668 pax - Load Factor 81% - 172 pax per flight. GLA-PHL 9,928 pax - Load Factor 80.5% - 160 pax per flight. GLA-DXB 13,962 pax - Load Factor 81% - 225 pax per flight. GLA-YYZ 25,648 pax over the month - Average 827 pax per day transiting GLA to/from YYZ. BLIMPS Good stuff. Here are some more August provo's.: FlyGlobespan: PRG 141 pax per flight - 94% based on 149 seats. Anyone confirm the exact number of seats on the GSM 733? NCE 137 pax per flight - 92% FAO 126 pax per flight - 88% BCN 131 pax per flight - 88% FCO 126 pax per flight - 85% Icelandair KEF 147 pax per flight - 81% bmi CPH 31 pax per flight - 63%. This route should be able to do better than that? Mind you it's not cheap at £199 return minimum. Clive Back to top BLIMPS Guest Posted: Fri Sep 17, 2004 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote Quote: "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cifhnu$itu$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com... GLA-EWR 12,608 pax - Load Factor 86.5% - 203 pax per flight. GLA-ORD 10,668 pax - Load Factor 81% - 172 pax per flight. GLA-PHL 9,928 pax - Load Factor 80.5% - 160 pax per flight. GLA-DXB 13,962 pax - Load Factor 81% - 225 pax per flight. GLA-YYZ 25,648 pax over the month - Average 827 pax per day transiting GLA to/from YYZ. BLIMPS Good stuff. Here are some more August provo's.: FlyGlobespan: PRG 141 pax per flight - 94% based on 149 seats. Anyone confirm the exact number of seats on the GSM 733? NCE 137 pax per flight - 92% FAO 126 pax per flight - 88% BCN 131 pax per flight - 88% FCO 126 pax per flight - 85% Icelandair KEF 147 pax per flight - 81% bmi CPH 31 pax per flight - 63%. This route should be able to do better than that? Mind you it's not cheap at £199 return minimum. Excellent figures all round, talking to a young lady today who informed that it was either LAS or PMI for a 'girlie' break, PMI (Magalluf) won and she said that for her 4 night hol with her pals she would never have thought of it until FlyGlobespan appeared on the scene (she's self employed) BLIMPS Back to top bill Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats In article <cifobm$tch$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>, [email]clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk[/email] says... Quote: Good stuff. Here are some more August provo's.: I thought an August Provo would be someone like Martin McGuinness. Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 8:52 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote Quote: bmi CPH 31 pax per flight - 63%. This route should be able to do better than that? Mind you it's not cheap at £199 return minimum. An extra daily rotation on the route would almost certainly help. I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Back to top fox1 Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:51 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:52:23 GMT, "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Quote: I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Just a rumoured EDI-Munich... -- View my aircraft pictures: "http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753" Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "fox1" <fox1 (AT) NOSPAMedinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote Quote: On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:52:23 GMT, "Callum Johnstone" [email]callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk[/email]> wrote: I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Just a rumoured EDI-Munich... Though no news for quite a while on that either. Back to top John Reid Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:28 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats Callum Johnstone wrote : Quote: "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cifobm$tch$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk... bmi CPH 31 pax per flight - 63%. This route should be able to do better than that? Mind you it's not cheap at £199 return minimum. An extra daily rotation on the route would almost certainly help. I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Did bmi not hold a licence at one time for GLA-NYC? I seem to recall that being a topic of conversation in the office at one time. I suppose the Manchester launch will have done with all of that. It was a long time ago. I too wish they would look to providing some UK based competition for the US carriers who presently have a monopoly of flights from Scotland to the US. -- John Mail sent to the reply address will be binned automatically. Use my name with the domain (@+the rest) Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 10:35 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "John Reid" <news (AT) jazza (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote Quote: Did bmi not hold a licence at one time for GLA-NYC? I seem to recall that being a topic of conversation in the office at one time. I suppose the Manchester launch will have done with all of that. It was a long time ago. I too wish they would look to providing some UK based competition for the US carriers who presently have a monopoly of flights from Scotland to the US. I believe you are correct, John. Yes, it would be nice to see some non-US options for transatlantic travel in Scotland. I reckon bmi will stick with MAN until such time as they can fly to the US ex-LHR. I can't imagine BA will be back on the JFK route any time soon. There was talk, a few years back, of a new airline by the name of Scotjet, who were looking into the possibility of launching TX flights from Scotland. Evidently nothing came of it :-( Back to top BLIMPS Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:23 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "John Reid" <news (AT) jazza (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote Quote: Callum Johnstone wrote : "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cifobm$tch$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk... bmi CPH 31 pax per flight - 63%. This route should be able to do better than that? Mind you it's not cheap at £199 return minimum. An extra daily rotation on the route would almost certainly help. I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Did bmi not hold a licence at one time for GLA-NYC? I seem to recall that being a topic of conversation in the office at one time. I suppose the Manchester launch will have done with all of that. It was a long time ago. I too wish they would look to providing some UK based competition for the US carriers who presently have a monopoly of flights from Scotland to the US. Yes, and I think they still do, it was planned to be operated by a DC-10. BLIMPS Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:33 am    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats The message <szT2d.23641$U04.18251 (AT) fe1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk> from "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> contains these words: Quote: Just a rumoured EDI-Munich... Though no news for quite a while on that either. One can only await developments.. :-( -- www.edinburghairport.org.uk Edinburgh Scotland International Scotland's most convenient/accessible/profitable airport View my aircraft pictures: http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753 Back to top John Reid Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:08 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats BLIMPS wrote : Quote: "John Reid" <news (AT) jazza (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:vfNre2Jy2ATBFwiB (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk... Did bmi not hold a licence at one time for GLA-NYC? I seem to recall that being a topic of conversation in the office at one time. I suppose the Manchester launch will have done with all of that. It was a long time ago. I too wish they would look to providing some UK based competition for the US carriers who presently have a monopoly of flights from Scotland to the US. Yes, and I think they still do, it was planned to be operated by a DC-10. That is interesting. Is a licence still a requirement for puddle jumping? I thought all of that had gone these days, or is that only within the EU? I wonder if having such a licence has a value for bmi if the do not exploit it. Maybe it is simply keeping another operator off the route? I have never understood all the rules around aviation, I suppose it is because it was thought to be "dangerous" to governments as it allowed insurgents to travel easily and quickly. -- John Mail sent to the reply address will be binned automatically. Use my name with the domain (@+the rest) Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "bill" <boing (AT) boing (DOT) com> wrote Quote: In article <cifobm$tch$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>, [email]clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk[/email] says... Good stuff. Here are some more August provo's.: I thought an August Provo would be someone like Martin McGuinness. LOL but careful use of the small "p" was exercised. Back to top Iain Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 2:55 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "John Reid" <news (AT) jazza (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:vfNre2Jy2ATBFwiB (AT) nospam (DOT) demon.co.uk... Callum Johnstone wrote : "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message news:cifobm$tch$1 (AT) newsg2 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk... bmi CPH 31 pax per flight - 63%. This route should be able to do better than that? Mind you it's not cheap at £199 return minimum. An extra daily rotation on the route would almost certainly help. I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Did bmi not hold a licence at one time for GLA-NYC? I seem to recall that being a topic of conversation in the office at one time. I suppose the Manchester launch will have done with all of that. It was a long time ago. I too wish they would look to providing some UK based competition for the US carriers who presently have a monopoly of flights from Scotland to the US. Yes, and I think they still do, it was planned to be operated by a DC-10. BLIMPS I seem to remember they also were ganted a CAA route license for GLA-YYZ 2 or 3 years ago, although obviously they have never taken it up. Maybe they needed it to codeshare with AC? Back to top Iain Guest Posted: Sat Sep 18, 2004 3:03 pm    Post subject: Re: GLA August 2004 Provisional Stats "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: "fox1" <fox1 (AT) NOSPAMedinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message news:b81ok01mfs90dtuuikj2gnud3ncun908v3 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com... On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 08:52:23 GMT, "Callum Johnstone" [email]callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk[/email]> wrote: I remember bmi muttering about being in talks with BAA (and the Scottish Exec) to deliver more international routes from Scotland. Shame there have been no developments on that front as yet. Just a rumoured EDI-Munich... Though no news for quite a while on that either. I'm afraid I heard elsewhere that bmi had handed back the slots they held at MUC - suggesting the route may not start for a while, if at all. TBH, I would be surprised if LH weren't very influential when it comes to potential German flights from bmi. It is widely rumoured LH have blocked bmi from flying LBA-Germany in recent years as they were worried about the potential effect on their MAN services. A similar situation could apply here - I imagine a fair few pax on LH's EDI-FRA route are going to/from MUC. 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