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opey@shirenetworks.com
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 Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 10:57 pm Post subject: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses are |
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Ok. I just recently got the green light from my wife to get my private
pilot's license. I've been dying to go after it ever since she got me
on a discovery flight for our anniversary a couple years back. I've
always been an avid Microsoft FS enthusiast but never thought the money
needed to go after the license was really worth it. Boy was I wrong!
But I'm a little confused about the license. I originally thought you
could only have single engine on a PPL, but is that true? Can you get
your multi-engine at the same time or do you need to wait? What's the
basic order of training?
Long term I'd like to pursue IR, ME and Commercial(only because I'd
like to own my own plane and need a way to curb the costs). What
training path do I have to take? I understand there's also the FAA
lets you use a limited number of flight simulator hours towards these?
Which ones, and how many? Anyone?
Thanks in advance for any info. Feel free to answer only the questions
you want. I know I've asked a lot in a little bit of space.
Opey
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Ron Natalie
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| Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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[email]opey (AT) shirenetworks (DOT) com[/email] wrote:
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But I'm a little confused about the license. I originally thought you
could only have single engine on a PPL, but is that true?
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No, A Private CERTIFICATE can have any number of category and class
ratings: Single Engine Airplane Land, Multi Engine Airplane Land,
Rotorcraft, Free Baloon, Glider....
You can start in any of these and add the others as you go.
| Quote: | Can you get your multi-engine at the same time or do you need to wait?
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You must pick one and get that, then you can add the ohters as soon as
you've met the requirements to take the additional checkrides. You
can start in a twin, but it will be more difficult and expensive to
do it that way than starting in a single and then adding the twin.
| Quote: | What's the basic order of training?
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Pretty open. You have to get a Private certificate and then you can
add ratings (either category/class or the instrument).
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Long term I'd like to pursue IR, ME and Commercial(only because I'd
like to own my own plane and need a way to curb the costs).
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The above is a non-sequitor. The instrument rating will save you some
money on insurance but the ME will just raise your costs and the
commercial is really immaterial.
| Quote: | What training path do I have to take?
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Pretty much advised to start with Private Pilot Single Engine Airplane.
You then need 50 XC hours and 125 total before your instrument checkride
but you can double up some time with the commercial training or ME
training if you like.
| Quote: | I understand there's also the FAA
lets you use a limited number of flight simulator hours towards these?
Which ones, and how many? Anyone?
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The instrument rating is really the only one where it's useful (unless
you're talking about motion simulators).
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Robert M. Gary
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:02 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Its more realistic to do your single engine rating before you multi.
Your initial private certificate requires a certain amount of solo work
(adding a multi engine to an existing private does not). Its pretty
much impossible to solo in a multi engine plane before you get your
private do to insurance.
Getting a commercial will not likely allow you to make any money with
your plane. You could fly local site seeing flights but there isn't
much of any money in that. You can't fly people places because they
requires a part 135 certificate which is considerable work. Flying
packages, etc, is becoming very uncommon.
However, if you get your instructor certificate you can provide
instruction although its often difficult to get insurance for that with
less than 3 airplanes.
-Robert
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abigkahuna@myrealbox.com
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:27 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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| Quote: | 125 total before your instrument checkride
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I did not see this in §61.65.
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Ron Natalie
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:44 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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[email]abigkahuna (AT) myrealbox (DOT) com[/email] wrote:
| Quote: | 125 total before your instrument checkride
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I did not see this in §61.65.
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They did away with that back in 95. My memory is failing. |
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abigkahuna@myrealbox.com
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 12:51 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Memory is the second thing to go.
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Andrew Sarangan
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 4:48 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Most people take the following route:
Single Engine Private
Single Engine Instrument
Single Engine Commercial
Flight Instructor
Multi-Engine Commercial/Instrument/Instructor
ATP
A commercial certificate will let you become employed as a pilot, but
not run your own business. There are only a few things you can do on
your own and charge for those services. What you can and cannot do is
strictly regulated. Basically, don't expect to make any money with a
commercial certificate unless you are prepared to quit your day job and
change careers. Most people get a commercial certificate only because it
is required for the instructor certificates. Becoming a flight
instructor is the most effective way to build experience without having
to pay for it. That's why there are so many of them.
[email]opey (AT) shirenetworks (DOT) com[/email] wrote in
news:1116543446.213053.325590 (AT) f14g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | Ok. I just recently got the green light from my wife to get my
private pilot's license. I've been dying to go after it ever since
she got me on a discovery flight for our anniversary a couple years
back. I've always been an avid Microsoft FS enthusiast but never
thought the money needed to go after the license was really worth it.
Boy was I wrong!
But I'm a little confused about the license. I originally thought you
could only have single engine on a PPL, but is that true? Can you get
your multi-engine at the same time or do you need to wait? What's the
basic order of training?
Long term I'd like to pursue IR, ME and Commercial(only because I'd
like to own my own plane and need a way to curb the costs). What
training path do I have to take? I understand there's also the FAA
lets you use a limited number of flight simulator hours towards these?
Which ones, and how many? Anyone?
Thanks in advance for any info. Feel free to answer only the
questions you want. I know I've asked a lot in a little bit of space.
Opey
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opey@shirenetworks.com
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Thank you very much, Ron. I appreciate you taking time out to answer
my questions.
-Opey
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opey@shirenetworks.com
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 1:10 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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How many hours do you need for Single Engine Instrument, SEC and FI
before a checkride?
Can you double up on any of these?
-Opey
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m pautz
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:32 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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[email]abigkahuna (AT) myrealbox (DOT) com[/email] wrote:
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I forgot what was the first.
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m pautz
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| Posted: Fri May 20, 2005 11:35 pm Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Ron Natalie wrote:
| Quote: | opey (AT) shirenetworks (DOT) com wrote:
But I'm a little confused about the license. I originally thought you
could only have single engine on a PPL, but is that true?
No, A Private CERTIFICATE can have any number of category and class
ratings: Single Engine Airplane Land, Multi Engine Airplane Land,
Rotorcraft, Free Baloon, Glider....
You can start in any of these and add the others as you go.
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I would suggest you add a glider rating. That way you can fly your
plane to the glider port, fly the tow plan, and also fly gliders.
One word of warning. Do this before you buy your power plane. I know
of people who have sold their power plane to buy a glider.
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Andrew Sarangan
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 2:36 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Many pilots get their private certificate around 50 hours, instrument 100-
150 hours, and commercial somewhere close to 200 hours. You need 250 hours
to take the commercial checkride, and you need 50 hours of cross-country
time to take the instrument checkride. You can take the flight instructor
checkride soon after commercial, so around 300 hours should be a practical
number.
[email]opey (AT) shirenetworks (DOT) com[/email] wrote in news:1116594648.270001.89130
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | How many hours do you need for Single Engine Instrument, SEC and FI
before a checkride?
Can you double up on any of these?
-Opey
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Robert M. Gary
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| Posted: Sat May 21, 2005 5:12 am Post subject: Re: Getting a Private Pilot's License-- What other licenses |
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Unless you go to a 141 school. Then its a minimum of 35 hours for the
private (but 50 is more common), no cross country requirements for
instrument and only 200 hrs for commerical.
-Robert, CFI
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