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roostertail Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:12 am Post subject: german atomic bomb research |
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rob : did the germans have enough nuclear material for a dirty nuclear
bomb. If so how would they have put it together?
Robert Dale
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Gordon Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: Re: german atomic bomb research |
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roostertail wrote:
| Quote: | rob : did the germans have enough nuclear material for a dirty nuclear
bomb. If so how would they have put it together?
Robert Dale
cell 214-455-5411
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Robert, good luck with your quest. This is a good forum to ask the
rest of your questions as well. It was a pleasure to meet you this
morning - enjoy your visit.
v/r
Gordon |
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WaltBJ Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: Re: german atomic bomb research |
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First, considering the fact that to make a militarily effective 'dirty
bomb' (as opposed to a civilian nuisance weapon) requires say a hundred
plus pounds of highly radiocative isotopes - trying to scrounge enough
natural substances would be a herculean task, eliminating the
possibility of using radium, etc. Using cyclotrons and other
accelerators to produce artificial radioisotopes would never yield
enough to be an effective weapon. And since Heisenberg never got a
uranium reactor to reach criticality, there went the possibility of
using artificially produced fission products. The real wonder was that
Hitler never used his nerve gas stockpile, a truly terrifying weapon.
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Rob Arndt Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: Re: german atomic bomb research |
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Gordon wrote:
| Quote: | roostertail wrote:
rob : did the germans have enough nuclear material for a dirty nuclear
bomb. If so how would they have put it together?
Robert Dale
cell 214-455-5411
Robert, good luck with your quest. This is a good forum to ask the
rest of your questions as well. It was a pleasure to meet you this
morning - enjoy your visit.
v/r
Gordon
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To first answer your question- yes, Germany had the most uranium in the
world, enough from German, Belgian, and Czech stocks to supply Japan
via U-boat enough to construct two bombs of their own at their Konan,
occupied Korea facility. Germany was in the process of building 2
radiologicals in the form of a spherical bomb which would have been
loaded into a heavy SC-series free-fall bomb, anywhere from SC-1800 up
to SC-2500. Each sphere contained layers of uranium plates with
kerosene filled in between them. A central detonator shaft ran through
the layers and contained an element for fission on impact when the bomb
nose plunger crushed the elelemt and forced the crushed uranium plates
together. The resulting kerosene explosion would spread radioactive
fission material within a certain radius of Manhatten (the target city)
or penetrated the water table and spew radioactive particles throughout
the city. The Sanger scenario was to detonate the bomb above the city
and have radioactive ash cover it making it contaminated for 3 decades.
These 2 bombs were discovered in a well and destroyed. The German
atomic bomb program, however, is more complicated and new evidence
suggests that some form of nuclear weapon was detonated in Thuringia in
March 1945:
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/18/6/3
This subject matter is highly debated and even more complicated when
one realizes that Virus House was not part of SS Technical Branch
nuclear/plasma research conducted by E-IV. The bomb tested at Thuringia
or possibly near the Baltic may not have been an atomic bomb at all but
a crude plasma weapon. It is interesting to note that neither the
Germans nor the Allies can account for the 18,000-25,000 slave laborers
working at the Thuringia site. They seem to have "vanished" into thin
air!
My advice for you Rob is just wait the scoffers out. Over the last
decade so many German secret weapon discoveries and reversals of
history have come to light. The victors can't cover-up the truth
forever. Germany in early 1945 desperately sought an Amerika bomber to
target NY... for WHAT? A conventional bomb load in 1945 on a one-way
trip would be idiotic. Yet plans were made to use a Ju-290, 390,
modified He-177s, and new orders to resume the Sanger antipodal bomber
and build the Ho-XVIII. The Kriegsmarine was to tow one of the
Prufstand XII V-2 launchers with a Type XXI electroboat. Five
containers were under construction at Stettin, one was completed. A
sea-launched V-2... again, to hit NY. With WHAT? Certainly not a 1 ton
warhead of Amatol.
Postwar in Argentina German scientists there led bu Richter attempted a
fusion weapon under the Heumel Project. What on earth for if the Nazis
were such failures in the nuclear program? Although the project was
treated like Cold Fusion back then, regarded as either a failure or
hoax, Heumel exists and the facilities are still there. The Germans
were more advanced than expected. WW2 documents reveal discussions
concerning nuclear powered aircraft, nuclear submarine propulsion,
gaseous diffusion, and fusion. So, they at least KNEW how to make a
bomb.
My 2 cents, anyway... good luck.
Rob |
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esikatsele Guest
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Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 6:10 am Post subject: Re: german atomic bomb research |
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http://thewebfairy.com/911/missilegate/rfz/swaz/index.htm
Rob Arndt wrote:
| Quote: | Gordon wrote:
roostertail wrote:
rob : did the germans have enough nuclear material for a dirty nuclear
bomb. If so how would they have put it together?
Robert Dale
cell 214-455-5411
Robert, good luck with your quest. This is a good forum to ask the
rest of your questions as well. It was a pleasure to meet you this
morning - enjoy your visit.
v/r
Gordon
To first answer your question- yes, Germany had the most uranium in the
world, enough from German, Belgian, and Czech stocks to supply Japan
via U-boat enough to construct two bombs of their own at their Konan,
occupied Korea facility. Germany was in the process of building 2
radiologicals in the form of a spherical bomb which would have been
loaded into a heavy SC-series free-fall bomb, anywhere from SC-1800 up
to SC-2500. Each sphere contained layers of uranium plates with
kerosene filled in between them. A central detonator shaft ran through
the layers and contained an element for fission on impact when the bomb
nose plunger crushed the elelemt and forced the crushed uranium plates
together. The resulting kerosene explosion would spread radioactive
fission material within a certain radius of Manhatten (the target city)
or penetrated the water table and spew radioactive particles throughout
the city. The Sanger scenario was to detonate the bomb above the city
and have radioactive ash cover it making it contaminated for 3 decades.
These 2 bombs were discovered in a well and destroyed. The German
atomic bomb program, however, is more complicated and new evidence
suggests that some form of nuclear weapon was detonated in Thuringia in
March 1945:
http://physicsweb.org/articles/world/18/6/3
This subject matter is highly debated and even more complicated when
one realizes that Virus House was not part of SS Technical Branch
nuclear/plasma research conducted by E-IV. The bomb tested at Thuringia
or possibly near the Baltic may not have been an atomic bomb at all but
a crude plasma weapon. It is interesting to note that neither the
Germans nor the Allies can account for the 18,000-25,000 slave laborers
working at the Thuringia site. They seem to have "vanished" into thin
air!
My advice for you Rob is just wait the scoffers out. Over the last
decade so many German secret weapon discoveries and reversals of
history have come to light. The victors can't cover-up the truth
forever. Germany in early 1945 desperately sought an Amerika bomber to
target NY... for WHAT? A conventional bomb load in 1945 on a one-way
trip would be idiotic. Yet plans were made to use a Ju-290, 390,
modified He-177s, and new orders to resume the Sanger antipodal bomber
and build the Ho-XVIII. The Kriegsmarine was to tow one of the
Prufstand XII V-2 launchers with a Type XXI electroboat. Five
containers were under construction at Stettin, one was completed. A
sea-launched V-2... again, to hit NY. With WHAT? Certainly not a 1 ton
warhead of Amatol.
Postwar in Argentina German scientists there led bu Richter attempted a
fusion weapon under the Heumel Project. What on earth for if the Nazis
were such failures in the nuclear program? Although the project was
treated like Cold Fusion back then, regarded as either a failure or
hoax, Heumel exists and the facilities are still there. The Germans
were more advanced than expected. WW2 documents reveal discussions
concerning nuclear powered aircraft, nuclear submarine propulsion,
gaseous diffusion, and fusion. So, they at least KNEW how to make a
bomb.
My 2 cents, anyway... good luck.
Rob
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