AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Flyglobespan Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Edinburgh Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Joe Curry Guest Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 2:43 pm    Post subject: Flyglobespan Flyglobespan intends to unveil four new routes flying from Edinburgh Airport next month. Any guesses.? Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 5:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: Flyglobespan intends to unveil four new routes flying from Edinburgh Airport next month. Any guesses.? Alicante, Tenerife, Rome and Faro? Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 6:59 pm    Post subject: Flyglobespan The message <Wm%bb.35$z37.28 (AT) news-binary (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk> from "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> contains these words: Quote: Any guesses.? Alicante, Tenerife, Rome and Faro? Could be. but cherry picking existing routes does not count toward a subsidy. The same can be said for GLA.... There would appear to be cherry-picking there of existing charter routes. It will end in tears at GLA but not at EDI, there is no over-capacity. Can you see the charter airlines at GLA lying down and not throwing down the guantlet? Can you see PIK taking Flyglobespan's 'snub' lying down.? The much vaunted GLA - CSA route to Prague has about as much chance now as Concorde flying in on the 24th October... Rome? It's no secret that BAA have tried hard to bring Italian routes into GLA for ages... Flyglobespan no doubt got an offer they couldn't refuse.. Back to top David Kerr Guest Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: The much vaunted GLA - CSA route to Prague has about as much chance now as Concorde flying in on the 24th October... That I really doubt....flyglobespan are proposing only a 2 weekly service; if CSA introduce services, it will be 5 weekly PLUS they are not averse to competing with "low cost" at the same airport....they've dropped their MAN-PRG prices to a comparable level to those which bmibaby will be launching their own services. David Back to top John Dundas Guest Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: The message <Wm%bb.35$z37.28 (AT) news-binary (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk from "Callum Johnstone" these words: Any guesses.? Alicante, Tenerife, Rome and Faro? Could be. but cherry picking existing routes does not count toward a subsidy. True. But at least its new routes and its good for charter pax who want too fly from EDI. Quote: The same can be said for GLA.... Yes it can. Quote: There would appear to be cherry-picking there of existing charter routes. It will end in tears at GLA but not at EDI, there is no over-capacity. What over capacity are you talking about? Quote: Can you see the charter airlines at GLA lying down and not throwing down the guantlet? They will have too deal with it. Just like having to deal with Ryanair, Easyjet and all the other locost airlines. Quote: Can you see PIK taking Flyglobespan's 'snub' lying down.? Well its a commercial decision, just like when BA decided to pull a service from GLA and move it to EDI, just the same idea and you did not complain about that or indicated anything that GLA would do. Quote: The much vaunted GLA - CSA route to Prague has about as much chance now as Concorde flying in on the 24th October... And you would love that route not to go ahead.......... Quote: Rome? It's no secret that BAA have tried hard to bring Italian routes into GLA for ages... Flyglobespan no doubt got an offer they couldn't refuse.. Do you have a problem with this then Joe? Your post is do damm negative with a bit of spite in it just because GLA has got some new routes and PIK has lost its Flyglobespan hub. Good on BAA for getting them away from PIK, WELL DONE BAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!! It was not long ago you were congratulating PIK for getting new routes but when it comes to Glasgow it seems that we see the other side of Joe Curry come out in your posts. JOE DONT BE SO DAMM NEGATIVE. Back to top John Dundas Guest Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2003 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "David Kerr" <david.avdb (AT) lineSPAMone (DOT) SPAMnet> wrote Quote: That I really doubt....flyglobespan are proposing only a 2 weekly service; if CSA introduce services, it will be 5 weekly PLUS they are not averse to competing with "low cost" at the same airport....they've dropped their MAN-PRG prices to a comparable level to those which bmibaby will be launching their own services. David David, thanks for the well balanced reply. Joe is just so damm negative when it comes to GLA, as we all know. I am glad too see that CSA are willing too operate at a comparable level to the lo-costs, like you said they dont offer a daily service which CSA do. regards John Back to top fox1 Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 20:38:20 +0100, "David Kerr" <david.avdb (AT) lineSPAMone (DOT) SPAMnet> wrote: Quote: The much vaunted GLA - CSA route to Prague has about as much chance now as Concorde flying in on the 24th October... That I really doubt....flyglobespan are proposing only a 2 weekly service; if CSA introduce services, it will be 5 weekly PLUS they are not averse to competing with "low cost" at the same airport.... I doubt they will compete at all...:-( Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: The message <Wm%bb.35$z37.28 (AT) news-binary (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk from "Callum Johnstone" these words: Any guesses.? Alicante, Tenerife, Rome and Faro? Could be. but cherry picking existing routes does not count toward a subsidy. The same can be said for GLA.... There would appear to be cherry-picking there of existing charter routes. It will end in tears at GLA but not at EDI, there is no over-capacity. Ah the expert has spoken. Look Joe Flyglobespan flew most of the routes from PIK this summer. They are certainly not going to attract fewer passengers by going from Glasgow International. We are talking about cheap flights from £35+tax each way that will encourage many "new" passengers into the air and offer previously unheard of flexibility. Quote: Can you see the charter airlines at GLA lying down and not throwing down the guantlet? Excellent news - more competition = cheaper seats for all. Quote: Can you see PIK taking Flyglobespan's 'snub' lying down.? What will they do, do you think? Pay airlines to fly from PIK? After all they couldn't get much cheaper. PIK may have shot themselves in the foot by bowing to Ryanair's demands. Quote: The much vaunted GLA - CSA route to Prague has about as much chance now as Concorde flying in on the 24th October... In your dreams.... Quote: Rome? It's no secret that BAA have tried hard to bring Italian routes into GLA for ages... Flyglobespan no doubt got an offer they couldn't refuse.. Yes indeed. Well done BAA Scottish Airports. A great bit of business. Back to top Adrian Tupper Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:Wm% bb.35$z37.28 (AT) news-binary (DOT) blueyonder.co.uk: Quote: "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:2003092315432066937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk... Flyglobespan intends to unveil four new routes flying from Edinburgh Airport next month. Any guesses.? Alicante, Tenerife, Rome and Faro? I can't think of anywhere more likely than these. Especially Faro. Unless Paphos or Larnaca is an option. -- Adrian Back to top fox1 Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:17 am    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan On 24 Sep 2003 06:40:08 GMT, Adrian Tupper <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Quote: I can't think of anywhere more likely than these. Especially Faro. Unless Paphos or Larnaca is an option. I doubt we can expect sensible city destinations than those already covered by charter flights... Back to top John Dundas Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:29 am    Post subject: Re: Flyglobespan "fox1" <fox1 (AT) NOSPAMedinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote Quote: On 24 Sep 2003 06:40:08 GMT, Adrian Tupper wrote: I can't think of anywhere more likely than these. Especially Faro. Unless Paphos or Larnaca is an option. I doubt we can expect sensible city destinations than those already covered by charter flights... Joe, you shout your mouth off at the lack of charter flights from EDI and complain bitterly about East coast pax having too travel to GLA to get their flights, now that Flyglobespan is going too introduce more flights and its certainly aimed at the charter type pax, you seem to be complaining about where they are going and you want "sensible city destinations". Basically Joe you cant have everything the way that you want it, be happy that EDI has secured even more routes and its giving East coast pax a better choice for them going on holiday from their LOCAL airport. I think that your just a bit bitter due to the fact that GLA has picked up new routes. If these routes were only going from EDI you would be having a party. EDI does not want too continue to get all these business pax type routes, it needs charter routes as well, just like GLA does not want too continue to get all these charter type routes, it needs business routes as well. If you want EDI to have sensible city destinations then you will not want Ryanair to fly from the airport and you will not want the charter pax then. Fine send them all to GLA as it seems you want some sort of categorisation at EDI and GLA then. Well done Flyglobespan and BAA for these new routes. regards John Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:44 am    Post subject: Flyglobespan The message <bkqalr$jlc$1 (AT) hercules (DOT) btinternet.com> from "John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) btinternet (DOT) spamcom> contains these words: Quote: It will end in tears at GLA but not at EDI, there is no over-capacity. What over capacity are you talking about? I can see it's a waste of time talking to you..GLA has umpteen charter destinations that you haven't noticed.? The rest of your reply is the same Hyperbolistic nonsense.... Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 7:49 am    Post subject: Flyglobespan The message <bkqe17$4ec$1 (AT) newsg4 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk> from "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> contains these words: Quote: Ah the expert has spoken. Look Joe Flyglobespan flew most of the routes from PIK this summer. They are certainly not going to attract fewer passengers by going from Glasgow International. We are talking about cheap flights from £35+tax each way that will encourage many "new" passengers into the air and offer previously unheard of flexibility. **NEW***? Where do Globespan expect these **NEW** pax with disposable incomes coming from? Edinburgh ? I think Edinburgh folk would want to fly from their own airport. We are talking **SOME** return fares of around £100.. most will be much higher. Edinburgh folk have surface travel premiums and inconvenience to add to the final cost. Times have changed Clive...folk are wising-up. Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 8:03 am    Post subject: Flyglobespan The message <bkrh5m$2s9$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com> from "John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) btinternet (DOT) spamcom> contains these words: Quote: Well done Flyglobespan and BAA for these new routes. But you will keep on posting anti-EDI/Edinburgh Evening Times articles to the Glasgow group...? If you were sincere about SCOTTISH you would set an example, meantime you come across as a Hypocritical Bigot. :-( Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2003 3:05 pm    Post subject: Flyglobespan The message <bkrtro$610$2 (AT) news7 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk> from "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> contains these words: Quote: Plus Glasgow is the number 3 UK destination for visitors I very much doubt it.... More spin.? You are opening a can of worms again.... 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