AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message GLAGAZ Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:17 pm    Post subject: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights LOW-COST airline flyglobespan has won a David and Goliath battle to dominate flights between Glasgow and Prague. http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5040819.html Gaz Back to top Andrew Scotland Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:25 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights "Glasgow passengers who have booked after August 1 will be asked to fly from Edinburgh." Where offered “Go to Edinburgh or take a full refund” they took the refund and booked up with FlyGlobespan from Glasgow for the same dates. Back to top Andrew Scotland Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights "Glasgow passengers who have booked after August 1 will be asked to fly from Edinburgh." Someone will think all his birthdays and Christmases have came at once. Close family Where offered “Go to Edinburgh or take a full refund” they took the refund and booked up with FlyGlobespan from Glasgow for the same dates. Back to top GLAGAZ Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights Good to see BAA in talks with GSM to increase the capacity on the route. Although maybe another daily service to somewhere like BUD may provide a nice alternative?? Gaz Back to top Iain Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights "Mr Dalrymple was furious when the Scottish Executive announced it would help pay Czech Airlines' landing fees through its route development fund" So presumably GSM have never had anything - seems a bit rough. The reasons given not to give anything to them must have been pretty flimsy - I'm surprised they didn't go to the courts! The news that they are increasing flights at EDI seems to make sense. They are relatively established at EDI and GSM are in position of being the new entry to the market, which maybe gives OK the advantage. I think GSM miught not last that long at EDI if OK do fight! Back to top Andrew Scotland Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights Iain wrote: Quote: "Mr Dalrymple was furious when the Scottish Executive announced it would help pay Czech Airlines' landing fees through its route development fund" So presumably GSM have never had anything - seems a bit rough. The reasons given not to give anything to them must have been pretty flimsy - I'm surprised they didn't go to the courts! The news that they are increasing flights at EDI seems to make sense. They are relatively established at EDI and GSM are in position of being the new entry to the market, which maybe gives OK the advantage. I think GSM miught not last that long at EDI if OK do fight! I still think OK will be the airline to pull EDI-PRG, hey are the airline not making money on the route and in general GSM are much better known Back to top Andrew Scotland Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights Iain wrote: Quote: "Mr Dalrymple was furious when the Scottish Executive announced it would help pay Czech Airlines' landing fees through its route development fund" So presumably GSM have never had anything - seems a bit rough. The reasons given not to give anything to them must have been pretty flimsy - I'm surprised they didn't go to the courts! The news that they are increasing flights at EDI seems to make sense. They are relatively established at EDI and GSM are in position of being the new entry to the market, which maybe gives OK the advantage. I think GSM miught not last that long at EDI if OK do fight! I still think OK will be the airline to pull EDI-PRG, hey are the airline not making money on the route and in general GSM are much better known Back to top Andrew Scotland Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights Iain wrote: Quote: "Mr Dalrymple was furious when the Scottish Executive announced it would help pay Czech Airlines' landing fees through its route development fund" So presumably GSM have never had anything - seems a bit rough. The reasons given not to give anything to them must have been pretty flimsy - I'm surprised they didn't go to the courts! The news that they are increasing flights at EDI seems to make sense. They are relatively established at EDI and GSM are in position of being the new entry to the market, which maybe gives OK the advantage. I think GSM miught not last that long at EDI if OK do fight! I still think OK will be the airline to pull EDI-PRG, hey are the airline not making money on the route and in general GSM are much better known Back to top Iain Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights "Andrew Scotland" <andy1l (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Iain wrote: "Mr Dalrymple was furious when the Scottish Executive announced it would help pay Czech Airlines' landing fees through its route development fund" So presumably GSM have never had anything - seems a bit rough. The reasons given not to give anything to them must have been pretty flimsy - I'm surprised they didn't go to the courts! The news that they are increasing flights at EDI seems to make sense. They are relatively established at EDI and GSM are in position of being the new entry to the market, which maybe gives OK the advantage. I think GSM miught not last that long at EDI if OK do fight! I still think OK will be the airline to pull EDI-PRG, hey are the airline not making money on the route and in general GSM are much better known Do you know why your post has appeared 3 times - or is it just me? As I said, in the case of EDI, OK are the established operator and GSM have only been going 2 or 3 months - OK are in a much stronger position to fight at EDI than they were at GLA (where daily service started at the same time - indeed, GSM were first on the route with their 2x weekly service) and may well have more success in doing so. If they are seriously considering pulling the route, it will be at leaset 6 months yet, whilst they wait to see who is gaining the upper hand. We have seen since last winter a situation where there was a bit of overcapacity (and low fares) GLA-PRG. Now GSM have "won" and capacity has dropped to more realisitic levels (although maybe 3 or 4 extra GSM flights from GLA a week would be useful). It is funny, as I think it appears that exactly the same kind of fight is going to take place at EDI over the next 6-12 months, with the accompanying overcapacity and low fares, and this time next year the same type of outcome will probably occur, with someone pulling off the route, leaving more sensible capacity and fares. Back to top Andrew Scotland Guest Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2005 7:33 pm    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights My name has appeared 3 times here but the message only once no idea why though anyone got an idea why? Agreed Iain someone will pull put and my guess is it will be CSA for the following reasons. 1. Although CSA have been operating Edinbrugh-Prague allot longer than FlyGlobespan have, FlyGlobespan have a much bigger name in Edinburgh and indeed the whole of Scotland for that matter so people looking to get cheap flights (not necessarily to Prague just anywhere for a weekend etc.) are more likely to log onto www.flyglobespan.com than they are to CSA's website and when people are looking for cheap flights with GSM to any other of there EDI destionations from EDIthey will see they are now flying EDI-PRG so i think GSM will get more exposure for this new route than CSA have had in Glasgow and Edinburgh together. Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Thu Jul 07, 2005 7:18 am    Post subject: Re: FlyGlobespan beat CSA + EDI getting 3 extra CSA flights "Andrew Scotland" <andy1l (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Iain wrote: "Mr Dalrymple was furious when the Scottish Executive announced it would help pay Czech Airlines' landing fees through its route development fund" So presumably GSM have never had anything - seems a bit rough. The reasons given not to give anything to them must have been pretty flimsy - I'm surprised they didn't go to the courts! The news that they are increasing flights at EDI seems to make sense. They are relatively established at EDI and GSM are in position of being the new entry to the market, which maybe gives OK the advantage. I think GSM miught not last that long at EDI if OK do fight! I still think OK will be the airline to pull EDI-PRG, hey are the airline not making money on the route and in general GSM are much better known The GSM flights from EDI to PRG only started at the end of May, so I'd be surprised at this stage if they were outperforming CSA at EDI. CSA have had more time to establish themselves at EDI. I think they'll hold their own, to be honest. 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