AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Flyboys          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Military Aircraft View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Cub Driver Guest Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 9:48 am    Post subject: Flyboys The book title, by the way, is Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, by James Bradley. After initially being put off by the moral equivalence (oh sure, the Japanese murdered, cooked, and ate bits of seven American fliers off Chichi Jima, but hey! Americans behaved badly at the Battle of Wounded Knee!), I've decided it's worth the read. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316105848/ref=nosim/annals all the best -- Dan Ford email: www.danford.net/letters.htm#9 see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Back to top Mortimer Schnerd, RN Guest Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 11:14 am    Post subject: Re: Flyboys Cub Driver wrote: Quote: The book title, by the way, is Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, by James Bradley. After initially being put off by the moral equivalence (oh sure, the Japanese murdered, cooked, and ate bits of seven American fliers off Chichi Jima, but hey! Americans behaved badly at the Battle of Wounded Knee!), I've decided it's worth the read. www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0316105848/ref=nosim/annals Thanks, Dan. I just ordered a copy myself at $14.00 plus shipping. -- Mortimer Schnerd, RN [email]mschnerd (AT) BARFcarolina (DOT) rr.com[/email] http://www.mortimerschnerd.com Back to top Tank Fixer Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 1:24 am    Post subject: Re: Flyboys In article <12kcpvkj9jte6gj1fg08fuifl2mrbn7sn2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, [email]look (AT) my (DOT) sig.fil[/email] says... Quote: The book title, by the way, is Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, by James Bradley. After initially being put off by the moral equivalence (oh sure, the Japanese murdered, cooked, and ate bits of seven American fliers off Chichi Jima, but hey! Americans behaved badly at the Battle of Wounded Knee!), I've decided it's worth the read. There were Japanese soldiers at Wounded Knee ? -- When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. Back to top Cub Driver Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 11:08 am    Post subject: Re: Flyboys Quote: The book title, by the way, is Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, by James Bradley. After initially being put off by the moral equivalence (oh sure, the Japanese murdered, cooked, and ate bits of seven American fliers off Chichi Jima, but hey! Americans behaved badly at the Battle of Wounded Knee!), I've decided it's worth the read. There were Japanese soldiers at Wounded Knee ? No, there were American soldiers. The Japanese treated their enemies badly, but hey! so did the Americans. (Mind you, I have not yet read the book. The moral equivalance of Chichi Jima and Wounded Knee was pointed out by a reviewer.) You will find this sort of equivalance in most people edcuated after say 1980. It was famously express by a high-school student who wrote that the Americans dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, so the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. all the best -- Dan Ford email: [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Back to top Autocollimator Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys Quote: Subject: Re: Flyboys From: Cub Driver [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] Date: 10/27/03 3:08 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: The Japanese treated their enemies badly, but hey! so did the Americans. While the Japs were beheading American flyers we were sending German prisoners to Kansas where they got better food and medical attention than they ever had in their miserable Nazi lives, Many stayed to marry American woman and are among us to this day. Your comparison to how the Japs treated prisoners and how we did is odious and disgusting. I can only attribute it your ignorance of the history of the period.. Now why don't you take your crappy Piper Cub and shove it where the sun don't shine..Imbecile. Back to top Steven P. McNicoll Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys "Cub Driver" <pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: The Japanese treated their enemies badly, but hey! so did the Americans. Different eras. During WWII the Americans treated their enemy captives far better than the Japanese treated their enemy captives. Back to top Steven P. McNicoll Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 2:41 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys "Autocollimator" <autocollimator (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Now why don't you take your crappy Piper Cub and shove it where the sun don't shine. Some Piper Cubs are nicer than other Piper Cubs, but there are no crappy Piper Cubs. Back to top Mike Marron Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 4:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys Quote: "Steven P. McNicoll" <roncachamp (AT) earthlinknospam (DOT) net> wrote: "Autocollimator" <autocollimator (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message Now why don't you take your crappy Piper Cub and shove it where the sun don't shine. Some Piper Cubs are nicer than other Piper Cubs, but there are no crappy Piper Cubs. We've had some heated arguments in the past, but on this I agree with you 100,000,001-percent (just like there ain't no such thang as bad pussy -- just that some pussy is better than other pussy! ) signed, ....Still waiting for the hooded coward to take off his "anonomator" Halloween mask and reveal his real name. Back to top Jack Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys in article [email]20031027092621.14280.00000109 (AT) mb-m29 (DOT) aol.com[/email], Autocollimator at [email]autocollimator (AT) aol (DOT) com[/email] wrote on 2003/10/27 8:26: Quote: Subject: Re: Flyboys From: Cub Driver [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] Date: 10/27/03 3:08 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: The Japanese treated their enemies badly, but hey! so did the Americans. You will find this sort of equivalance in most people edcuated after say 1980. It was famously express by a high-school student who wrote that the Americans dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, so the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. Your comparison to how the Japs treated prisoners and how we did is odious and disgusting. I can only attribute it your ignorance of the history of the period. AC, Try reading for the author's meaning (perhaps even reading his entire post) instead of doing an e.rorschack and exposing your quirks to the world at large. http://www.deltabravo.net/custody/rorschach.htm Jack Back to top Cub Driver Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys Quote: Your comparison to how the Japs treated prisoners and how we did is odious and disgusting. Not my comparison. The author's comparison. Can't you read? Quote: I can only attribute it your ignorance of the history of the period. Actually, I know a great deal about it, since I lived through it. Plonk! all the best -- Dan Ford email: [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Back to top Cub Driver Guest Posted: Mon Oct 27, 2003 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Flyboys Quote: Different eras. During WWII the Americans treated their enemy captives far better than the Japanese treated their enemy captives. (Or than the Japanese treated their own soldiers, for that matter!) all the best -- Dan Ford email: [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] see the Warbird's Forum at www.warbirdforum.com and the Piper Cub Forum at www.pipercubforum.com Back to top John Keeney Guest Posted: Tue Oct 28, 2003 6:03 am    Post subject: Re: Flyboys "Autocollimator" <autocollimator (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Subject: Re: Flyboys From: Cub Driver [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] Date: 10/27/03 3:08 AM Pacific Standard Time Message-id: The Japanese treated their enemies badly, but hey! so did the Americans. While the Japs were beheading American flyers we were sending German prisoners to Kansas where they got better food and medical attention than they ever had in their miserable Nazi lives, Many stayed to marry American woman and are among us to this day. Your comparison to how the Japs treated prisoners and how we did is odious and disgusting. I can only attribute it your ignorance of the history of the period.. Now why don't you take your crappy Piper Cub and shove it where the sun don't shine..Imbecile. Some people are utterly incapable of appreciating context. Back to top Tank Fixer Guest Posted: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:46 am    Post subject: Re: Flyboys In article <kuuppv4nbcesgk7kmgfoniga3dfhij72q7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, [email]pipercubforum (AT) eudoramail (DOT) com[/email] says... Quote: The book title, by the way, is Flyboys: A True Story of Courage, by James Bradley. After initially being put off by the moral equivalence (oh sure, the Japanese murdered, cooked, and ate bits of seven American fliers off Chichi Jima, but hey! Americans behaved badly at the Battle of Wounded Knee!), I've decided it's worth the read. There were Japanese soldiers at Wounded Knee ? No, there were American soldiers. The Japanese treated their enemies badly, but hey! so did the Americans. (Mind you, I have not yet read the book. The moral equivalance of Chichi Jima and Wounded Knee was pointed out by a reviewer.) Ok, I get the connection now. Quote: You will find this sort of equivalance in most people edcuated after say 1980. It was famously express by a high-school student who wrote that the Americans dropped an atomic bomb on Hiroshima, so the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor. I get to deal with this as I have two in HS right now. Fortunatly they learned to read ata young age and have access to my small library plus knwo how to use the public library... -- When dealing with propaganda terminology one sometimes always speaks in variable absolutes. This is not to be mistaken for an unbiased slant. 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