AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Fisrt Flight          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Crash Lander Guest Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:13 am    Post subject: Fisrt Flight Well, just got back from going flying. Plane was a little Gazelle. Much smaller than I thought once I got up close.barely enough room inide for 2 people, but once strapped in, and settled, plenty really. Space in the back for up to 10kg of stuff. Total fuel capacity was 20 litres in each wing. Sky was fairly overcast, but no rain. Cloud base was 2500 feet. Never having been in such a small craft before, (smallest ever for me was an MD80 from Paris to Copenhagen!), I was concerned I would either be scared of the height with such little to hold me in, or that I would feel sick. As we taxiied and took off, I was surprised that I felt absolutely no fear at all. We flew round the training area and then did some circling over the house where the wife and kids were waiting whilst we were up. My pilot (a First Officer for Cathay Pacific) got me handling the controls a lot of the time! He did the pedals, and I did the rest. Great stuff. Then we did a bit more general flying around the training area, followed by a couple more circles over the house. The second lot of circles were what got me. I got dizzy, and started to feel sick! We got up to 2500feet, which was just at the bottom of the clouds. Next he asked if I wanted to do some touch and go's. "Sure!" I said. He then said "I'll do the first one to se what the surface winds are doing, and you can do the next one!" "Holy shit!" I thought to myself. He does one, and around we go again. He gets me to turn onto the crosswind, then downwind, then base, and finally onto final. I brought it around quite nicely, but then started over correcting as we got closer to the threshold. I also got a little low, so he put the power back on, and we went around again. The next time round, he did it again, and whilst we were on finals, there was one aircraft that had just done his touch and go, then a second a/c that was just touching down and was about to put the power back on, when he lost all power, and was forced to make a decision to abort the take off, and landed on the brakes and made a sharp right hand turn. He flipped the little Jabiru straight up onto it's nose, then hard back down on it's wheels, smacking the tail on the ground. We were about to do the touch part of our touch and go at the time, and had to abort at the last minute as a result! We saw the pilot get out of the craft as we flew over, so he was unhurt. By the time we completed the next circuit, he had pushed his plane off the runway, and had a crowd of helpers to inspect the damage. We did our touch and go, (my pilot did it, not me), and did one more quick jaunt around the training area, before landing. was an excellent experience, and has confirmed my desire to begin flight training. The Jabiru that crashed had a badly damaged propellor, a crinkled wing, damaged nose wheel, and I'd imagine, structural damage to the tail section. The engine appeared to be pushed a few inches to one side too. The owner guessed at around AUS$15,000 repair bill. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006059.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006058.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006057.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006056.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006055.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006054.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006053.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006052.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006051.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006050.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006049.jpg Crash Lander Back to top d&tm Guest Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:40 am    Post subject: Re: Fisrt Flight "Crash Lander" <here (AT) there (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:eb1cu9$m0o$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au... Quote: Well, just got back from going flying. Plane was a little Gazelle. Much smaller than I thought once I got up close.barely enough room inide for 2 people, but once strapped in, and settled, plenty really. Space in the back for up to 10kg of stuff. Total fuel capacity was 20 litres in each wing. Sky was fairly overcast, but no rain. Cloud base was 2500 feet. Never having been in such a small craft before, (smallest ever for me was an MD80 from Paris to Copenhagen!), I was concerned I would either be scared of the height with such little to hold me in, or that I would feel sick. As we taxiied and took off, I was surprised that I felt absolutely no fear at all. We flew round the training area and then did some circling over the house where the wife and kids were waiting whilst we were up. My pilot (a First Officer for Cathay Pacific) got me handling the controls a lot of the time! He did the pedals, and I did the rest. Great stuff. Then we did a bit more general flying around the training area, followed by a couple more circles over the house. The second lot of circles were what got me. I got dizzy, and started to feel sick! We got up to 2500feet, which was just at the bottom of the clouds. Next he asked if I wanted to do some touch and go's. "Sure!" I said. He then said "I'll do the first one to se what the surface winds are doing, and you can do the next one!" "Holy shit!" I thought to myself. He does one, and around we go again. He gets me to turn onto the crosswind, then downwind, then base, and finally onto final. I brought it around quite nicely, but then started over correcting as we got closer to the threshold. I also got a little low, so he put the power back on, and we went around again. The next time round, he did it again, and whilst we were on finals, there was one aircraft that had just done his touch and go, then a second a/c that was just touching down and was about to put the power back on, when he lost all power, and was forced to make a decision to abort the take off, and landed on the brakes and made a sharp right hand turn. He flipped the little Jabiru straight up onto it's nose, then hard back down on it's wheels, smacking the tail on the ground. We were about to do the touch part of our touch and go at the time, and had to abort at the last minute as a result! We saw the pilot get out of the craft as we flew over, so he was unhurt. By the time we completed the next circuit, he had pushed his plane off the runway, and had a crowd of helpers to inspect the damage. We did our touch and go, (my pilot did it, not me), and did one more quick jaunt around the training area, before landing. was an excellent experience, and has confirmed my desire to begin flight training. The Jabiru that crashed had a badly damaged propellor, a crinkled wing, damaged nose wheel, and I'd imagine, structural damage to the tail section. The engine appeared to be pushed a few inches to one side too. The owner guessed at around AUS$15,000 repair bill. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006059.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006058.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006057.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006056.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006055.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006054.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006053.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006052.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006051.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006050.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006049.jpg Crash Lander Well done Crash ( now that you are fair dinkum about flying , I really think you should find a new nick name.. I think you must have jinxed the poor bastard with the Jabiru.). Nice photos too. I recognised the plane and landscape.. Barwon Heads, which wont mean much to most of the guys and gals on this group, but they all share your passion, and you will learn alot from them if you hang around. Terry PPL ( Geelong , Australia) Back to top Crash Lander Guest Posted: Sat Aug 05, 2006 3:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Fisrt Flight "d&tm" <tfmann (AT) iprimusREMOVEME (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:44d43e28$1_1 (AT) news (DOT) iprimus.com.au... Quote: "Crash Lander" <here (AT) there (DOT) com.au> wrote in message news:eb1cu9$m0o$1@news-01.bur.connect.com.au... Well, just got back from going flying. Plane was a little Gazelle. Much smaller than I thought once I got up close.barely enough room inide for 2 people, but once strapped in, and settled, plenty really. Space in the back for up to 10kg of stuff. Total fuel capacity was 20 litres in each wing. Sky was fairly overcast, but no rain. Cloud base was 2500 feet. Never having been in such a small craft before, (smallest ever for me was an MD80 from Paris to Copenhagen!), I was concerned I would either be scared of the height with such little to hold me in, or that I would feel sick. As we taxiied and took off, I was surprised that I felt absolutely no fear at all. We flew round the training area and then did some circling over the house where the wife and kids were waiting whilst we were up. My pilot (a First Officer for Cathay Pacific) got me handling the controls a lot of the time! He did the pedals, and I did the rest. Great stuff. Then we did a bit more general flying around the training area, followed by a couple more circles over the house. The second lot of circles were what got me. I got dizzy, and started to feel sick! We got up to 2500feet, which was just at the bottom of the clouds. Next he asked if I wanted to do some touch and go's. "Sure!" I said. He then said "I'll do the first one to se what the surface winds are doing, and you can do the next one!" "Holy shit!" I thought to myself. He does one, and around we go again. He gets me to turn onto the crosswind, then downwind, then base, and finally onto final. I brought it around quite nicely, but then started over correcting as we got closer to the threshold. I also got a little low, so he put the power back on, and we went around again. The next time round, he did it again, and whilst we were on finals, there was one aircraft that had just done his touch and go, then a second a/c that was just touching down and was about to put the power back on, when he lost all power, and was forced to make a decision to abort the take off, and landed on the brakes and made a sharp right hand turn. He flipped the little Jabiru straight up onto it's nose, then hard back down on it's wheels, smacking the tail on the ground. We were about to do the touch part of our touch and go at the time, and had to abort at the last minute as a result! We saw the pilot get out of the craft as we flew over, so he was unhurt. By the time we completed the next circuit, he had pushed his plane off the runway, and had a crowd of helpers to inspect the damage. We did our touch and go, (my pilot did it, not me), and did one more quick jaunt around the training area, before landing. was an excellent experience, and has confirmed my desire to begin flight training. The Jabiru that crashed had a badly damaged propellor, a crinkled wing, damaged nose wheel, and I'd imagine, structural damage to the tail section. The engine appeared to be pushed a few inches to one side too. The owner guessed at around AUS$15,000 repair bill. http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006059.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006058.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006057.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006056.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006055.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006054.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006053.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006052.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006051.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006050.jpg http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a169/CL1973/August2006049.jpg Crash Lander Well done Crash ( now that you are fair dinkum about flying , I really think you should find a new nick name.. I think you must have jinxed the poor bastard with the Jabiru.). Nice photos too. I recognised the plane and landscape.. Barwon Heads, which wont mean much to most of the guys and gals on this group, but they all share your passion, and you will learn alot from them if you hang around. Terry PPL ( Geelong , Australia) Yep, Barwon Heads. I thought about changing my name, but I am very active on other newsgroups, and everyone knows me as Crash Lander, so I decided the name stays. Just as long as it doesn't jinx me, then that's the main thing I guess. Crash Lander Back to top GeorgeC Guest Posted: Sun Aug 06, 2006 6:11 am    Post subject: Re: Fisrt Flight Very good, are going to go up again? My second CFI was afraid of heights. He joked that he got dizzy climbing a ladder ( we flow high wing airplanes and had to use a ladder to check fuel) and he could jump as high as he wanted to get off the ground. Last time I check the FAA Registry he was an Airline Transport Pilot Airplane Multiengine Land and a CFII in airplane and helicopter. His fear of height did not seem to slow him down. On Sat, 5 Aug 2006 16:13:28 +1000, "Crash Lander" <here (AT) there (DOT) com.au> wrote: Quote: I was concerned I would either be scared of the height with such little to hold me in, or that I would feel sick. As we taxiied and took off, I was surprised that I felt absolutely no fear at all. 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