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tompet@peak.org
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 3:30 am    Post subject: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote



Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit


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D. Grunloh
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote





[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Quote:
Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5 inches wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad). Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan




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tompet@peak.org
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:33 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

What diameter are these 400x6 tires?

In article <417DF47F.204C00F8 (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
<dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5 inches wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad). Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan




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D. Grunloh
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 2:50 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote



[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Quote:
What diameter are these 400x6 tires?

They are just standard 400x6 4 ply rating tires about 13 inches.
They are not big giant tires like you probably want. However,
that tire on a wide rim peforms extremely well on soft ground
because of the large contact area. It's the standard wheel for
a j-3 kitten.

It's not an actual "tundra" tire

--Dan



Quote:


In article <417DF47F.204C00F8 (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5 inches wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad). Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan





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tompet@peak.org
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

Yeah, I'm trying to find a light weight version of a big, fat, large diameter
tire. So far all I have found are zillion ply monsters made for heavier
craft. It seems like someone would make something, maybe for a ATV or
whatever.

tom

In article <417E641D.5E0F755B (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
<dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

What diameter are these 400x6 tires?

They are just standard 400x6 4 ply rating tires about 13 inches.
They are not big giant tires like you probably want. However,
that tire on a wide rim peforms extremely well on soft ground
because of the large contact area. It's the standard wheel for
a j-3 kitten.

It's not an actual "tundra" tire

--Dan





In article <417DF47F.204C00F8 (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on
a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an
ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5 inches
wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad). Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan





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Drew Dalgleish
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

some golf cart tires might work for you. If you find an ATV tire in
the size you want you can get the knobs shaved off by an automotive
speed shop

Quote:
Yeah, I'm trying to find a light weight version of a big, fat, large diameter
tire. So far all I have found are zillion ply monsters made for heavier
craft. It seems like someone would make something, maybe for a ATV or
whatever.

tom

In article <417E641D.5E0F755B (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

What diameter are these 400x6 tires?

They are just standard 400x6 4 ply rating tires about 13 inches.
They are not big giant tires like you probably want. However,
that tire on a wide rim peforms extremely well on soft ground
because of the large contact area. It's the standard wheel for
a j-3 kitten.

It's not an actual "tundra" tire

--Dan





In article <417DF47F.204C00F8 (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on
a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an
ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5 inches
wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad). Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan






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Northernberks
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 26, 2004 11:49 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

Wheelbarrow tire not big enough...... or too big!
just a thought....


"Drew Dalgleish" <Idon'twantanyspam (AT) thankyou (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
some golf cart tires might work for you. If you find an ATV tire in
the size you want you can get the knobs shaved off by an automotive
speed shop

Yeah, I'm trying to find a light weight version of a big, fat, large
diameter
tire. So far all I have found are zillion ply monsters made for heavier
craft. It seems like someone would make something, maybe for a ATV or
whatever.

tom

In article <417E641D.5E0F755B (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

What diameter are these 400x6 tires?

They are just standard 400x6 4 ply rating tires about 13 inches.
They are not big giant tires like you probably want. However,
that tire on a wide rim peforms extremely well on soft ground
because of the large contact area. It's the standard wheel for
a j-3 kitten.

It's not an actual "tundra" tire

--Dan





In article <417DF47F.204C00F8 (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would
fit on
a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an
ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5
inches
wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad).
Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style
tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan








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Jean-Paul Roy
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

A friend of mine installed ballonned tires on his Kitfox and said it came
from a lawnmower tractor and are tubeless. Looks good.
For your info

Jean-Paul
"Northernberks" <northernberks (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Wheelbarrow tire not big enough...... or too big!
just a thought....


"Drew Dalgleish" <Idon'twantanyspam (AT) thankyou (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:417eaad9.1132811406 (AT) news (DOT) cabletv.on.ca...
some golf cart tires might work for you. If you find an ATV tire in
the size you want you can get the knobs shaved off by an automotive
speed shop

Yeah, I'm trying to find a light weight version of a big, fat, large
diameter
tire. So far all I have found are zillion ply monsters made for heavier
craft. It seems like someone would make something, maybe for a ATV or
whatever.

tom

In article <417E641D.5E0F755B (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

What diameter are these 400x6 tires?

They are just standard 400x6 4 ply rating tires about 13 inches.
They are not big giant tires like you probably want. However,
that tire on a wide rim peforms extremely well on soft ground
because of the large contact area. It's the standard wheel for
a j-3 kitten.

It's not an actual "tundra" tire

--Dan





In article <417DF47F.204C00F8 (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net>, "D. Grunloh"
[email]dgrunloh (AT) illicomOUT (DOT) net[/email]> wrote:


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email] wrote:

Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that
would
fit on
a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an
ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit

Put a standard 400x6 inch tire on a very wide 6 inch rim upto 5.5
inches
wide.
Such rims are available from Starlight wheels (see UF magazine ad).
Better
and lighter than Hagars they make a very nice "fat" aviation style
tire.

About $75 each with rubber and weight 4-1/2 lbs with bearings.

--Dan












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Richard Carlisle
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

Try these...

http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=1959/index.html

They are lighter than any ATV/golf cart tire. I think they are 4
ply...maybe even 2 play, if there is such a thing. They are pretty thin.
The can be bought in tubeless or tube configuration. I've had these on
every plane I've owned for the last 5 years. The stand about 18" tall and
work fine on a 6" Azuza wheel.

Ross


<tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org> wrote

Quote:
Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on
a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an
ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit



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Mark Smith
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

Richard Carlisle wrote:
Quote:

Try these...

http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=1959/index.html

They are lighter than any ATV/golf cart tire. I think they are 4
ply...maybe even 2 play, if there is such a thing. They are pretty thin.
The can be bought in tubeless or tube configuration. I've had these on
every plane I've owned for the last 5 years. The stand about 18" tall and
work fine on a 6" Azuza wheel.

Ross

but realize that tires this large really play havoc with a smooth
takeoff,

the angle of attack changes dramatically when these are on the rear,
with a stock/small tire on the front.

The plane will have a long ground run, even with full back stick,

chopping the throttle may lurch the plane skyward, or when enough speed
is attained, the elevator will eventually rotate the plane,,,,,,,,,,,,,

it helps to have the stab/elevator in the prop blast for the latter
--


Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:mark (AT) trikite (DOT) com
1-812-838-6351

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Richard Carlisle
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

I've always had tail draggers. I guess they could be a problem on tri gear,
but I have seen them on T-Bird tri gear planes...Never flown one that way
though. I don't think the original poster mentioned what he was putting
them on, just that he was looking for a light weight tundra tire.

Ross


"Mark Smith" <mark (AT) trikite (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
Richard Carlisle wrote:

Try these...


http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=1959/index.html

They are lighter than any ATV/golf cart tire. I think they are 4
ply...maybe even 2 play, if there is such a thing. They are pretty
thin.
The can be bought in tubeless or tube configuration. I've had these on
every plane I've owned for the last 5 years. The stand about 18" tall
and
work fine on a 6" Azuza wheel.

Ross

but realize that tires this large really play havoc with a smooth
takeoff,

the angle of attack changes dramatically when these are on the rear,
with a stock/small tire on the front.

The plane will have a long ground run, even with full back stick,

chopping the throttle may lurch the plane skyward, or when enough speed
is attained, the elevator will eventually rotate the plane,,,,,,,,,,,,,

it helps to have the stab/elevator in the prop blast for the latter
--


Mark Smith
Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com
1121 N Locust St
Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:mark (AT) trikite (DOT) com
1-812-838-6351



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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:08 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote

These are the best I've seen so far. They are 16-1/2 tall according to the
website. Thanks for the tip. At $30 each, they won't break the bank, either.

tom

In article <5qidnQ7tF7a_b-LcRVn-jQ (AT) fcgnetworks (DOT) net>, "Richard Carlisle"
<*rrc62*@adelphia.net> wrote:
Quote:
Try these...

http://www.wicksaircraft.com/catalog/product_cat.php/subid=1959/index.html

They are lighter than any ATV/golf cart tire. I think they are 4
ply...maybe even 2 play, if there is such a thing. They are pretty thin.
The can be bought in tubeless or tube configuration. I've had these on
every plane I've owned for the last 5 years. The stand about 18" tall and
work fine on a 6" Azuza wheel.

Ross


[email]tompet (AT) peak (DOT) org[/email]> wrote in message
news:QMCdnXl32bxbXuDcRVn-gg (AT) scnresearch (DOT) com...
Howdy,

Does anyone have a source for some kind of "tundra" tire that would fit on
a
six inch rim, not cost a fortune, and not weigh too much for an
ultralight?

thanks,
tom pettit



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Richard Carlisle
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:13 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote


Quote:
These are the best I've seen so far. They are 16-1/2 tall according to the
website. Thanks for the tip. At $30 each, they won't break the bank, either.


I think they blow up to a little bigger than 16 1/2. Depends also on how
much pressure you run. I think I run about 5 PSI. Really smooths out those
rough fields.

Ross



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n4mwd.dont.spam.me@amsat.
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Re: fat tires for ultralight? Reply with quote


I've seen some small lawnmower tires at Harbor Freight that are very
inexpensive, but I was concerned as to whether or not they would be
adequate for aircraft. They are marked NHS ("Not for Highway
Speeds"). Would something like this still work on an aircraft given
the duty cycle is so low?

Dennis.

Richard Carlisle <rrc62remove_to_respond (AT) adelphia (DOT) net> wrote:

Quote:

These are the best I've seen so far. They are 16-1/2 tall according to the
website. Thanks for the tip. At $30 each, they won't break the bank, either.


I think they blow up to a little bigger than 16 1/2. Depends also on how
much pressure you run. I think I run about 5 PSI. Really smooths out those
rough fields.

Ross



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