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Iain Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:03 pm Post subject: ET article on flyglobespan |
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GLASGOW Airport has won daily flights to Paris in a major expansion by
Flyglobespan.
The Scots-based low-cost airline today said it would treble its passenger
numbers next year with eight seven-days-a-week services direct from Glasgow.
Full story -
http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/hi/news/5031686.html
I'm over the moon at the ORY flight - I've been praying for a lo-cost
alternative to FR for trips to Paris for ages! I'm presuming this flight
will be year-round? The article claims that fares will start at £29.99
rtn! - I think I might be making a few trips to Paris next year! Someone
elsewhere posted that a Paris flight was on the cards - I'll listen to them
more in future.
I think flyglobespan have been quite clever in selecting a Paris airport -
ORY is pretty quick for access to central Paris and also being to the South
of Paris it seperates them a fair bit from FR away to the N. I suppose they
may be able to tap the market to the S of Paris whilst FR tap the N. Does
anyone know what ORY is like - I've only ever been to CDG and tbh I dread
every trip through it!
Interestingly, it says later in he article that the Barcelona flights have
recieved RDF cash from the Scottish Exec. I guess if they already fund FR
from PIK they have to fund globespan as well. No mention of funding for the
ORY flight though - perhaps they can't fund it because FR from PIK and AF
from EDI are not funded and this would therefore be unfair competition. As
discussed previously, the RDF seemed to only fund year-round flights, so are
we to take it this GLA-BCN service is to be year-round?
It will be interesting to see what FR's competative response will be -
there's bound to be one. I'm not really sure what the can do re Paris - they
already have 2xdaily flights, so I can't see them adding frequency, but then
I guess it's not out the question - flood the market with cheap seats I
think there's probably room for both to operate, but Fr might not see it
that way! I could certainly see them going double dailly to Gerona to have a
pop at globespan.
On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they were
fighting FR on.
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Joe Curry Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 2:28 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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The message <2tn98tF21ja6tU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de>
from "Iain" <iain1978 (AT) nospamtiscali (DOT) co.uk> contains these words:
| Quote: | On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they were
fighting FR on.
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Or the EDI flight was fuller?
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Clive Braham Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:17 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote
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from "Iain"
On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they were
fighting FR on.
Or the EDI flight was fuller?
Let me just check the FACTS from another thread.... |
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
Iain is absolutely correct. GSM had to lower fares when MOL jumped in. The
higher cost base remains so revenue would not be so great despite 90-100%
loads.
Perhaps it makes economic sense to move the 2 GLA-FCO flights to EDI where
there is less of a "PIK effect" and revenues can be protected and expand GLA
in other areas. I think Paris daily more than makes up for it. Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
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BLIMPS Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:38 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote
| Quote: | The message <2tn98tF21ja6tU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de
from "Iain"
On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to
be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they were
fighting FR on.
Or the EDI flight was fuller?
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Fuller than 'full?'
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Iain Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:54 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:2004102015281266937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk...
The message <2tn98tF21ja6tU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de
from "Iain"
On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to
be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they
were
fighting FR on.
Or the EDI flight was fuller?
Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
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Yes Clive, I normally make a point of trying to ignore a certain person, but
I went and looked at the figures for the season on the GLA and EDI-Rome
routes. Here they are:
GLA-FCO
April 2210
May 1775
June 1582
July 2384
August 2273
September 2299
Total 12523
EDI-FCO
April 435
May 285
June 1175
July 1582
August 1328
September 1905
Total 6710
Even if we leave out April and May (I don't think the EDI flights were
operating then - although it does have a 1-stop BA via BHX which further
increases the figures), we still see that GLA had far more pax. As usual, a
certain person couldn't be more wrong.
I must say in light of these figures their decision re. allocation of Rome
flights for next summer looks a bit funny, but as you say maybe it's a
revenue issue with FR down the road at PIK.
| Quote: | Shame they dropped EDI-VCE though.
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Yes, I thought they might expand VCE from both airports - it must be a
popular enough destination - maybe FR are planning flights to there.
Overall, they seem to have focussed primarily on consolidating destinations
already served by increasing frequency. I thought they might have expanded
destination wise into E. Europe to upcoming places like BUD and KRK, and
maybe even Berlin, but I suppose their strategy of consolodation is probably
the right one.
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Joe Curry Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:55 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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The message <cl66ji$ek2$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk>
from "Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> contains these words:
| Quote: | Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
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Same number of flights,?
| Quote: | Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
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Some routes work others don't. :-(
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John Dundas Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:23 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote
| Quote: | The message <2tn98tF21ja6tU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de
from "Iain"
On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to
be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they were
fighting FR on.
Or the EDI flight was fuller?
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Oh you little bitter and twisted little man...........
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Clive Braham Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 8:53 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote
| Quote: | The message <cl66ji$ek2$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk
from "Clive Braham"
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don't blame you for snipping your bit.... You should have paused for a
moment to think.
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Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
Same number of flights,?
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Yup.
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Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
Some routes work others don't. :-(
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Yup.
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BLIMPS Guest
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Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 10:01 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:2004102018554566937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk...
The message <cl66ji$ek2$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk
from "Clive Braham"
words:
don't blame you for snipping your bit.... You should have paused for a
moment to think.
Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
Same number of flights,?
Yup.
Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
Some routes work others don't. :-(
Yup.
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Joe Curry's credibility = 0
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Tyler Durden Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:11 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:2004102018554566937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk...
The message <cl66ji$ek2$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk
from "Clive Braham"
words:
don't blame you for snipping your bit.... You should have paused for a
moment to think.
Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
Same number of flights,?
Yup.
Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
Some routes work others don't. :-(
Yup.
Joe Curry's credibility = 0
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Which is substantially more than yours
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Jon Simpson Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 12:29 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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"Tyler Durden" <nospam (AT) news (DOT) com> wrote
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"BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message
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The message <cl66ji$ek2$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk
from "Clive Braham"
words:
don't blame you for snipping your bit.... You should have paused for a
moment to think.
Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
Same number of flights,?
Yup.
Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
Some routes work others don't. :-(
Yup.
Joe Curry's credibility = 0
B
Which is substantially more than yours
Do you ever wonder why god gave you two ears and one mouth Wu:lle? |
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Joe Curry Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 1:22 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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from "Tyler Durden" <nospam (AT) news (DOT) com> contains these words:
| Quote: | Joe Curry's credibility = 0
Which is substantially more than yours
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Usenet post of the week! )
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GLAGAZ Guest
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Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 7:19 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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Joe Curry <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote
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from "Tyler Durden"
Joe Curry's credibility = 0
Which is substantially more than yours
Usenet post of the week!
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Back-patting?
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John Reid Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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Joe Curry wrote :
| Quote: | The message <2tn98tF21ja6tU1 (AT) uni-berlin (DOT) de
from "Iain"
On a negative note, it seems that Rome is dropped from GLA - seemed to be
full, but they must have decided to limit the number of fronts they were
fighting FR on.
Or the EDI flight was fuller?
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Note : according to your own view of life (and the fact that people
would expect you to abide by your own absurd "guidelines" even though we
all know they do not apply) that this is both OT and trolling here.
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John Reid Guest
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Posted: Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:06 pm Post subject: Re: ET article on flyglobespan |
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BLIMPS wrote :
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
news:cl6j9b$6ih$1 (AT) news5 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk...
"Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:2004102018554566937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk...
The message <cl66ji$ek2$1 (AT) news6 (DOT) svr.pol.co.uk
from "Clive Braham"
words:
don't blame you for snipping your bit.... You should have paused for a
moment to think.
Let me just check the FACTS from another thread....
GLA 2299 EDI 1905 September '04.
Same number of flights,?
Yup.
Shame they
dropped EDI-VCE though.
Some routes work others don't. :-(
Yup.
Joe Curry's credibility = 0
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Forgive the correction Mr Blimps, but I think Joe Curry's credibility =
-1
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