AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  enough with the TFR's          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message ihavehadit@faa.tfr.com Guest Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 7:33 pm    Post subject: enough with the TFR's i've had it folks. Cheney (Dick right?) is on a bus tour in PA so everyone has to stop and bow? COME ON MAN! Stop the trucks, cars and large tricycles too. these TFRs are getting unsafe and frankly whenever the controllers are dealing with it they're in a bad mood, unhelpful, and the airspace feels like dictatorial territory. ENOUGH!!!!! Back to top gregg Guest Posted: Tue Aug 24, 2004 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: enough with the TFR's [email]ihavehadit (AT) faa (DOT) tfr.com[/email] wrote: Quote: i've had it folks. Cheney (Dick right?) is on a bus tour in PA so everyone has to stop and bow? COME ON MAN! Stop the trucks, cars and large tricycles too. these TFRs are getting unsafe and frankly whenever the controllers are dealing with it they're in a bad mood, unhelpful, and the airspace feels like dictatorial territory. ENOUGH!!!!! Actually, with regard to safety and the attitude of the controllers, my experiences have been quite different. We had the DNC in Boston which resulted in a 30 mile TFR and then a week or so later (during my checkride) There was another 30 miler centered on Kennebunkport when 43 was visiting for a wedding. In both cases the controllers and FSS were helpful, patient, reasonable. The airport where my examiner hung out was inside the TFR so I had to fly up there, get him fly back to my FBO base. Do the checkride, fly him back, and then fly back to my FBO. 4 flight plans required. No lack of safety; everyone helpful. Especially to a somewhat nervous student pilot/private pilot. ;^) Gregg Back to top Guest Posted: Wed Aug 25, 2004 7:45 am    Post subject: Re: enough with the TFR's In article <Pine.LNX.4.44.0408241528240.2045-100000 (AT) localhost (DOT) localdomain>, <ihavehadit (AT) faa (DOT) tfr.com> wrote: Quote: i've had it folks. Cheney (Dick right?) is on a bus tour in PA so everyone has to stop and bow? COME ON MAN! Stop the trucks, cars and large tricycles too. these TFRs are getting unsafe and frankly whenever the controllers are dealing with it they're in a bad mood, unhelpful, and the airspace feels like dictatorial territory. ENOUGH!!!!! And it appears to be getting worse: AOPA is reporting that on Cheney's next trip, he's going to get even BIGGER TFRs than he normally gets. WTF?! I feel for the poor folks who live in Ohio, PA, FLA, and the other "swing states" that these guys seem to visit every week. David Herman N6170T 1965 Cessna 150E Boeing Field (BFI), Seattle, WA - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Visit the Pacific Northwest Flying Forum - http://www.smartgroups.com/groups/pnwflying Back to top dancingstar Guest Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: enough with the TFR's [email]noname (AT) noplace (DOT) com[/email] wrote: Quote: And it appears to be getting worse: AOPA is reporting that on Cheney's next trip, he's going to get even BIGGER TFRs than he normally gets. WTF?! That's because he gained some weight recently. Antonio Back to top Ron Natalie Guest Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2004 1:13 pm    Post subject: Re: enough with the TFR's "dancingstar" <dancingstarcreationsNOSPAMTHINGY (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote Quote: [email]noname (AT) noplace (DOT) com[/email] wrote: And it appears to be getting worse: AOPA is reporting that on Cheney's next trip, he's going to get even BIGGER TFRs than he normally gets. WTF?! That's because he gained some weight recently. Actually someone did some thinking and decided he was more important than W. Now if we could just reduce the size of W's TFR's to match. Back to top Robert Chambers Guest Posted: Sat Aug 28, 2004 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: enough with the TFR's And not that it's bad enough that Air Force 2 flying over my home airport VFR gets a traffic alert from TCAS or ATC about another VFR pilot in the same general area and it is national news. http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/27/cheney.plane.ap/index.html Robert Ron Natalie wrote: Quote: "dancingstar" <dancingstarcreationsNOSPAMTHINGY (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote [email]noname (AT) noplace (DOT) com[/email] wrote: And it appears to be getting worse: AOPA is reporting that on Cheney's next trip, he's going to get even BIGGER TFRs than he normally gets. WTF?! That's because he gained some weight recently. Actually someone did some thinking and decided he was more important than W. Now if we could just reduce the size of W's TFR's to match. 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