AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  End of a legend          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Naval Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message DONSMARK Guest Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 3:30 am    Post subject: End of a legend http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-16-navy-tomcat_x.htm Back to top Lynn in StLou Guest Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:14 pm    Post subject: Re: End of a legend DONSMARK wrote: Quote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-16-navy-tomcat_x.htm From the article.... Quote: • Sophisticated missiles have made its specialty, aerial dogfighting, obsolete. Where have we heard this before? -- Lynn in StLou REMOVETHIS anti-spam measure to reply Back to top FatKat Guest Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:21 am    Post subject: Re: End of a legend "Opposing aircraft target each other from miles away, often before the pilots can see each other except on radar." Dies anybody at USA Today actually read anything other than...USA Today? From all the references to "Top Gun", you'd think these guys consider "Entertainment Weekly" a primary source. No mention of Iranian F-14's, and a painful lack of any understanding of the F-14's mission - how else could you take their characterization of the F-14 as a casualty of the age of radar-weapon warfare. The F-14 was one of the greatest long-distance interceptors. Even if this vaunted age had arrived, the F-14 would probably be the last of the 70's era fighters to fall to obsolescence. Of course, it all comes down to cost, but don't expect more than a cursory mention of that in a puff piece. Back to top Paul Guest Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 12:27 am    Post subject: Re: End of a legend "DONSMARK" <DonSmark (AT) nospamspleaseearthlink (DOT) net> wrote Quote: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-02-16-navy-tomcat_x.htm I think all anyone with a bit of sense can say - even today... you would not want to be on the receiving end of a flight of F-14's with a combat load..... Back to top DONSMARK Guest Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: End of a legend ---------- In article <1140567712.617476.156540 (AT) g43g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "FatKat" <robynari (AT) juno (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Dies anybody at USA Today actually read anything other than...USA Today? From all the references to "Top Gun", you'd think these guys consider "Entertainment Weekly" a primary source. No mention of Iranian F-14's, and a painful lack of any understanding of the F-14's It was a pretty lousy article. What really surprised me was that they never even mentioned stealth. Back to top FatKat Guest Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: End of a legend DONSMARK wrote: Quote: What really surprised me was that they never even mentioned stealth. Proves that Stealth works against USA Today. If we ever go to war with USA Today, the F-117 will work perfectly. Back to top Jeb Hoge Guest Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: End of a legend That. Was. HYSTERICAL. Especially the first point. Classic. Although I also cocked an eyebrow at the one Navy officer's assertion that the F-14 was the last of the pure fighters. I'm not sure, but I think the F-8 still deserves that honor. Back to top Glenn Dowdy Guest Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: End of a legend "FatKat" <robynari (AT) juno (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Opposing aircraft target each other from miles away, often before the pilots can see each other except on radar." Dies anybody at USA Today actually read anything other than...USA Today? "USA Today - America's Favorite High School Newspaper". Glenn D. Back to top Mike Kanze Guest Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 6:48 pm    Post subject: OT - USA Today (Was: Re: End of a legend) Among my business traveler peers, it's called the "McPaper." -- Mike Kanze "Don't eat anything that's served to you out a window unless you're a seagull." - George Carlin's New Rules for 2006 "Glenn Dowdy" <glenn.no.dowdy (AT) hp (DOT) nospam.com> wrote "FatKat" <robynari (AT) juno (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Opposing aircraft target each other from miles away, often before the pilots can see each other except on radar." Dies anybody at USA Today actually read anything other than...USA Today? "USA Today - America's Favorite High School Newspaper". Glenn D. Back to top Andrew Venor Guest Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2006 11:08 pm    Post subject: Re: End of a legend Glenn Dowdy wrote: Quote: "FatKat" <robynari (AT) juno (DOT) com> wrote in message news:1140567712.617476.156540 (AT) g43g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com... "Opposing aircraft target each other from miles away, often before the pilots can see each other except on radar." Dies anybody at USA Today actually read anything other than...USA Today? "USA Today - America's Favorite High School Newspaper". Glenn D. Otherwise known as News McNuggets. 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