AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  EK/US May provisional performance Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Kerr Guest Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:30 pm    Post subject: EK/US May provisional performance Subject to Clive or someone else using a more modern calculator than me! EK provisional figures: 6547 passengers/62 flights/105.5 pax per flight = 37% loads US 5699 passengers (start date?) Not breaking this lot down for a Air Transat/Zoom split: Canadian routes Calgary 630 pax, Halifax 301, Toronto 8605, Vancouver 2627. David Back to top BLIMPS Guest Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 6:55 pm    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote Quote: Subject to Clive or someone else using a more modern calculator than me! EK provisional figures: 6547 passengers/62 flights/105.5 pax per flight = 37% loads Not as high as I'd hoped but it's early doors and the vast majority of VFR traffic from Glasgow to Oz/Kiwiland go October-April. Quote: US 5699 passengers (start date?) 11th May was first GLA arrival/departure which gives us 42 rotations which gives us 135 pax per flight but remember there would be very few returning pax either way in the first week or so so a 68% Load Factor for US in May is excellent. Quote: Not breaking this lot down for a Air Transat/Zoom split: Canadian routes Calgary 630 pax, Halifax 301, Toronto 8605, Vancouver 2627. Don't know the route/airline breakdown yet but that's a very healthy 12,163 pax on the Canuk routes averaging 196 pax per day each way to/from Canada. BLIMPS Back to top David Kerr Guest Posted: Fri Jun 18, 2004 10:44 pm    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote in message news:91458db5.0406181030.42cb9f39 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... Subject to Clive or someone else using a more modern calculator than me! EK provisional figures: 6547 passengers/62 flights/105.5 pax per flight = 37% loads Not as high as I'd hoped but it's early doors and the vast majority of VFR traffic from Glasgow to Oz/Kiwiland go October-April. I believe May must be one of the off-peak months as the BHX loads were around 55% and MAN 63% (without looking at the actual aircraft that operated the services for a more accurate figure). David Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:47 am    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance The message <91458db5.0406181030.42cb9f39 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com> from [email]david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net[/email] (David Kerr) contains these words: Quote: Subject to Clive or someone else using a more modern calculator than me! EK provisional figures: 6547 passengers/62 flights/105.5 pax per flight = 37% loads Agreed.... those figures tally and fly in the face of the bullshit we have heard here. To be fair, it is a new route and must be given time to bed-in... -- www.edinburghairport.org.uk Edinburgh Scotland International Scotland's most convenient/accessible/profitable airport Check the aircraft images: http://www.egph.net Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance The message <91458db5.0406181444.275ce9ae (AT) posting (DOT) google.com> from [email]david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net[/email] (David Kerr) contains these words: Quote: Not as high as I'd hoped but it's early doors and the vast majority of VFR traffic from Glasgow to Oz/Kiwiland go October-April. I believe May must be one of the off-peak months as the BHX loads were around 55% and MAN 63% Both airports I believe have competiting services.? GLA has none... Doesn't look too good for other airlines pitching themselves against EK. -- www.edinburghairport.org.uk Edinburgh Scotland International Scotland's most convenient/accessible/profitable airport Check the aircraft images: http://www.egph.net Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance The message <cavdrl$6qp$1 (AT) hercules (DOT) btinternet.com> from "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words: Quote: EK provisional figures: 6547 passengers/62 flights/105.5 pax per flight = 37% loads Not as high as I'd hoped but it's early doors and the vast majority of VFR traffic from Glasgow to Oz/Kiwiland go October-April. The sort of pax that EK expressed disappointment with...only 20% instead of the expected 75%... EK obviously never took into account the Harthill divide... a divide clearly evident when connecting flights are available elsewhere. -- www.edinburghairport.org.uk Edinburgh Scotland International Scotland's most convenient/accessible/profitable airport Check the aircraft images: http://www.egph.net Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: EK obviously never took into account the Harthill divide... a divide clearly evident when connecting flights are available elsewhere. A divide which is massively over-exaggerated, IMHO, although much admired by the idiots in these newsgroups who are making a laughing stock of Scotland. You would rightly attack anyone who bleated about the EDI-EWR loads not being 100% on account of it being early days, so why not extend the GLA guys a courtesy and lay off the attacks on the Emirtaes service? It's just petty jealousy, and all it does it attract a steady stream of bigots who want to attack my preferred airport because of what you say about theirs. Enough is enough! Back to top BLIMPS Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote Quote: "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote "David Kerr" <david.kerr (AT) lineone (DOT) net> wrote in message news:91458db5.0406181030.42cb9f39 (AT) posting (DOT) google.com... Subject to Clive or someone else using a more modern calculator than me! EK provisional figures: 6547 passengers/62 flights/105.5 pax per flight = 37% loads Not as high as I'd hoped but it's early doors and the vast majority of VFR traffic from Glasgow to Oz/Kiwiland go October-April. I believe May must be one of the off-peak months as the BHX loads were around 55% and MAN 63% (without looking at the actual aircraft that operated the services for a more accurate figure). Can I ask where you got the Stats D? BLIMPS Back to top BLIMPS Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:10 am    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:2004061907541166937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk... EK obviously never took into account the Harthill divide... a divide clearly evident when connecting flights are available elsewhere. A divide which is massively over-exaggerated, IMHO, although much admired by the idiots in these newsgroups who are making a laughing stock of Scotland. You would rightly attack anyone who bleated about the EDI-EWR loads not being 100% on account of it being early days, so why not extend the GLA guys a courtesy and lay off the attacks on the Emirtaes service? It's just petty jealousy, and all it does it attract a steady stream of bigots who want to attack my preferred airport because of what you say about theirs. Enough is enough! The bigots bit is a bit strong Callum but well said the rest of it. BLIMPS Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:26 am    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote Quote: "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:DbUAc.100032$B63.1598 (AT) doctor (DOT) cableinet.net... "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:2004061907541166937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk... EK obviously never took into account the Harthill divide... a divide clearly evident when connecting flights are available elsewhere. A divide which is massively over-exaggerated, IMHO, although much admired by the idiots in these newsgroups who are making a laughing stock of Scotland. You would rightly attack anyone who bleated about the EDI-EWR loads not being 100% on account of it being early days, so why not extend the GLA guys a courtesy and lay off the attacks on the Emirtaes service? It's just petty jealousy, and all it does it attract a steady stream of bigots who want to attack my preferred airport because of what you say about theirs. Enough is enough! The bigots bit is a bit strong Callum but well said the rest of it. I think "bigot" is an entirely accurate description, Blimps, but thanks all the same. Back to top Jim Mason Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:46 am    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance In article <ToVAc.107575$wd7.50445 (AT) front-1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>, [email]callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk[/email] says... Quote: "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote in message news:cb16ua$lrl$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com... "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:DbUAc.100032$B63.1598 (AT) doctor (DOT) cableinet.net... "Joe Curry" <ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:2004061907541166937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk... EK obviously never took into account the Harthill divide... a divide clearly evident when connecting flights are available elsewhere. A divide which is massively over-exaggerated, IMHO, although much admired by the idiots in these newsgroups who are making a laughing stock of Scotland. You would rightly attack anyone who bleated about the EDI-EWR loads not being 100% on account of it being early days, so why not extend the GLA guys a courtesy and lay off the attacks on the Emirtaes service? It's just petty jealousy, and all it does it attract a steady stream of bigots who want to attack my preferred airport because of what you say about theirs. Enough is enough! The bigots bit is a bit strong Callum but well said the rest of it. I think "bigot" is an entirely accurate description, Blimps, but thanks all the same. I'd totally agree Callum. Anyone who openly admits that they want flights from one particular airport to fail, who openly admits he wants he refuses to use one particular airport for no rational reason, anyone who wants all media companies to relocate to his city of choice, anyone who cannot hide their hatred for the citizens of a particular city, anyone who wants to bar people from posting to a particular newsgroup simply on grounds of geographic situation, anyone who causes newsgroup conflict then blames everyone but himself, anyone who carries on like that HAS to be branded a bigot and I totally applaud you for outing such persons. Maybe now others will take off their blindfolds and see what the TRUE agenda of such person actually is. And I'll give you a clue - it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with airports - these persons are simply using these groups as a vehicle promote their own brand of sectarianism. Most people can rise above such behaviour but there are some who see such behaviour as an excuse for retalitory action - that type are just as bad as the original and simply encourage even more bigotry. Jim -- Remove `spamtrapped` to reply off-list http://jim-mason.fotopic.net Back to top Callum Johnstone Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 11:57 am    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance "Jim Mason" <jim.mason (AT) spamtrappedukonline (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: I'd totally agree Callum. Anyone who openly admits that they want flights from one particular airport to fail, who openly admits he wants he refuses to use one particular airport for no rational reason, anyone who wants all media companies to relocate to his city of choice, anyone who cannot hide their hatred for the citizens of a particular city, anyone who wants to bar people from posting to a particular newsgroup simply on grounds of geographic situation, anyone who causes newsgroup conflict then blames everyone but himself, anyone who carries on like that HAS to be branded a bigot and I totally applaud you for outing such persons. Maybe now others will take off their blindfolds and see what the TRUE agenda of such person actually is. And I'll give you a clue - it has NOTHING whatsoever to do with airports - these persons are simply using these groups as a vehicle promote their own brand of sectarianism. Most people can rise above such behaviour but there are some who see such behaviour as an excuse for retalitory action - that type are just as bad as the original and simply encourage even more bigotry. Thanks, Jim. A spot-on observation! Callum. Back to top Jim Mason Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 12:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Re: EK/US May provisional performance In article <mSVAc.107581$wd7.78741 (AT) front-1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>, [email]callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk[/email] says... Quote: "Jim Mason" <jim.mason (AT) spamtrappedukonline (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message news:MPG.1b3e38053f16e7679898d9 (AT) News (DOT) Individual.NET... I'd totally agree Callum. Thanks, Jim. A spot-on observation! Expect moronic `back-patting` comment any second :-( Jim -- Remove `spamtrapped` to reply off-list http://jim-mason.fotopic.net Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:29 pm    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance The message <DbUAc.100032$B63.1598 (AT) doctor (DOT) cableinet.net> from "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> contains these words: Quote: You would rightly attack anyone who bleated about the EDI-EWR loads not being 100% on account of it being early days, so why not extend the GLA guys a courtesy and lay off the attacks on the Emirtaes service? It's just petty jealousy, and all it does it attract a steady stream of bigots who want to attack my preferred airport because of what you say about theirs. I have every admiration for Glasgow and its residents, I have respect for their choice of airport...I don't however have any respect or admiration for the Blimpie types who have dragged Scottish aviation down below gutter-level. The 'attacks' were started half-a-decade ago by Blimp/deejay in aaue...attacks that they have no intention of withdrawing from... Quote: Enough is enough! I have said that often but got told "Peace-Off".. -- www.edinburghairport.org.uk Edinburgh Scotland International Scotland's most convenient/accessible/profitable airport Check the aircraft images: http://www.egph.net Back to top Joe Curry Guest Posted: Sat Jun 19, 2004 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: EK/US May provisional performance The message <cb16ua$lrl$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com> from "BLIMPS" <BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words: Quote: Enough is enough! The bigots bit is a bit strong Callum but well said the rest of it. You are the root cause of the conflict, no one else...no Blimpie...no Bigots... -- www.edinburghairport.org.uk Edinburgh Scotland International Scotland's most convenient/accessible/profitable airport Check the aircraft images: http://www.egph.net Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Glasgow Airport All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next Page 1 of 3   Jump to: Select a forum Aviation----------------alt.aviationAviation safety EnhancementPlanes, gliders and flying in AustraliaAviation et pilotage (Français)rec.aviationAviation (Aerobatics)Hot air, gas balloons and airshipsHang-gliding, paragliding, foot-launched flightAircraft Design & BuildingInstrument Flight RulesAviation (Classifieds)Military AircraftNaval AviationAviation (Miscellaneous Topics)Owning AirplanesAviators (General Discussions)Aviation related productsAircraft RestorationHelicopters and rotary wing aircraftsFlight SimulationSailplanesAviation (Students)Light aircraftFlying related activities in the UK Airports----------------alt.airportsEdinburgh Airport Glasgow Airport Humberside Airport Luton Airport Aberdeen Airport Glasgow Prestwick Airport  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.