AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Ejection sequence F16          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Planes, gliders and flying in Australia View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Pits Guest Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 7:14 am    Post subject: Ejection sequence F16 http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album44/aby.mpg Found on another newsgroup exceptional footage as its so clear ? Cheers P Back to top TB Guest Posted: Sun Jan 25, 2004 10:04 am    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 Here is the details and a great stills photo of the ejection. http://www.f-16.net/f-16_news_article842.html http://www.f-16.net/f-16_photos_album04-photodis.html "Pits" <why (AT) non (DOT) com.ru> wrote Quote: http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album44/aby.mpg Found on another newsgroup exceptional footage as its so clear ? Cheers P Back to top OverSpeed Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 2:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 "TB" <t@b.com> wrote Quote: Here is the details and a great stills photo of the ejection. http://www.f-16.net/f-16_news_article842.html http://www.f-16.net/f-16_photos_album04-photodis.html "Pits" <why (AT) non (DOT) com.ru> wrote http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album44/aby.mpg Found on another newsgroup exceptional footage as its so clear ? Cheers P This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? Back to top CD Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 3:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> wrote Quote: This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? http://www.f-16.net/f-16_news_article968.html Back to top Peter Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 In article <4017d32d$0$5224$afc38c87 (AT) news (DOT) optusnet.com.au>, CD (loco_driver01 (AT) hotmail (DOT) com) says... Quote: "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> wrote in message news:atPRb.32389$Wa.31247 (AT) news-server (DOT) bigpond.net.au... This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? http://www.f-16.net/f-16_news_article968.html The engine is still going, as can be seen by the plume in the still photograph. I'm a bit puzzled by the change in safety procedures noted in the article. The crash occurred because the pilot got the ground level wrong and was relying on MSL rather than AGL figures. It seems that they are now to use MSL rather than AGL but the pilot was doing that anyway. "The maneuver the pilot was trying to complete is called the "Split S Maneuver." The stunt requires that the pilot climb to 2,500 feet. Investigators say Stricklin only climbed to 1,670 feet before he went into the spinning roll. "The board determined other factors substantially contributed to creating the opportunity for the error including the requirement to convert sea level altitude information from the F-16 instruments - to their altitude above ground and call out that information to a safety operator below. "But the Air Force has now changed that as a result of the crash. Thunderbird pilots will now call out the MSL (mean-sea-level) altitudes as opposed to the AGL (above-ground-level) altitudes." Back to top Paul Repacholi Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> writes: Quote: This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? Some one put the ground at ground level, not sea level. Opps... Planing error with altitudes and height needed. Can't help but wonder if his xfer to Wash DC is punisment, or because he is now qualified to go there :) -- Paul Repacholi 1 Crescent Rd., +61 (0 9257-1001 Kalamunda. West Australia 6076 comp.os.vms,- The Older, Grumpier Slashdot Raw, Cooked or Well-done, it's all half baked. EPIC, The Architecture of the future, always has been, always will be. Back to top Tosser Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 "Paul Repacholi" <prep (AT) prep (DOT) synonet.com> wrote Quote: "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> writes: This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? Some one put the ground at ground level, not sea level. Opps... Planing error with altitudes and height needed. My reading of it was that he told investigators he had a snap brainfart and used the entry altitude applicable to his home base, where the elevation is lower. We're talking about someone who was in the job because he was one of the very best. Think of the thousands of times he must have rolled inverted, pulled the stick back and blown the cobwebs off the weeds ... (But no-one will be doing that any more ... they've added 1000ft to the entry altitude). Bet he had something personal on his mind, poor bugger. Cheers. Back to top Tosser Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 9:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> wrote Quote: This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? The short story is that he began the manoeuvre too low and ran out of air. Back to top Peter Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 In article <87wu7bg7k6.fsf (AT) prep (DOT) synonet.com>, Paul Repacholi (prep (AT) prep (DOT) synonet.com) says... Quote: "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> writes: This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? Some one put the ground at ground level, not sea level. Well no, the ground was 3 000' up, not 2 000'. His problem was that he thought he was at 5 500' when he was actually nearly a thousand lower. Back to top Peter Guest Posted: Wed Jan 28, 2004 10:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 In article <8SVRb.32524$Wa.22299 (AT) news-server (DOT) bigpond.net.au>, Tosser (electric_enema (AT) flush (DOT) com) says... Quote: Bet he had something personal on his mind, poor bugger. He was thinking about his impending transfer to Washington... 8^) Back to top matt weber Guest Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:14 am    Post subject: Re: Ejection sequence F16 On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:14:30 GMT, "OverSpeed" <dmmwdmmwxx (AT) hotmailxx (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: "TB" <t@b.com> wrote Here is the details and a great stills photo of the ejection. http://www.f-16.net/f-16_news_article842.html http://www.f-16.net/f-16_photos_album04-photodis.html "Pits" <why (AT) non (DOT) com.ru> wrote http://www.f-16.net/PhotoGallery/album44/aby.mpg Found on another newsgroup exceptional footage as its so clear ? Cheers P This is fantastic footage. Would love to know what the story was with the ejection - did he just screw up the manoeuvre, or did the engine flame out right when he needed it most? Screwed up the maneuver. 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