AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  eFlyBook          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Instrument Flight Rules View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Travis Marlatte Guest Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 5:50 pm    Post subject: eFlyBook OK. Why haven't I seen any discussion of the coolest thing I saw announced at Oshkosh? The eFlyBook from myairplane.com and ARINC. Given the current price/technology ratio, it seems like the perfect near-term solution to having electronic charts in a usable package. Did anyone play with one? What's the general opinion? -- ------------------------------- Travis Lake N3094P PWK Back to top Ron Natalie Guest Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 6:32 pm    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook Travis Marlatte wrote: Quote: OK. Why haven't I seen any discussion of the coolest thing I saw announced at Oshkosh? The eFlyBook from myairplane.com and ARINC. Given the current price/technology ratio, it seems like the perfect near-term solution to having electronic charts in a usable package. Did anyone play with one? What's the general opinion? The display is impressive but the underlying processor is lame. There were a ton of EFB products this year running on a bunch of different platforms (as opposed to last year where almost everybody was using the Motion Systems tablets). Most are PC based which gives you portability between EFB software (you can switch or even run multiple applications) as well as being able to migrate to a different platform. As near as I can tell this is a dead end proprietary solution. Further, I'm already a JeppView user since I've got chartview up in the MX20, so it's not so interesting for me. Can't really comment about the price-performance as MyAirplane.com's store is busted right now and I can't even see the price. Back to top Mitty Guest Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 8:08 pm    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook Yes, I'd be interested to hear more. Especially about the screen; from the specs it appears to be too tiny to be useful. On 8/2/2006 7:50 AM, Travis Marlatte wrote the following: Quote: OK. Why haven't I seen any discussion of the coolest thing I saw announced at Oshkosh? The eFlyBook from myairplane.com and ARINC. Given the current price/technology ratio, it seems like the perfect near-term solution to having electronic charts in a usable package. Did anyone play with one? What's the general opinion? Back to top Longworth Guest Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 9:17 pm    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook Mitty wrote: Quote: Yes, I'd be interested to hear more. Especially about the screen; from the specs it appears to be too tiny to be useful. Larger displays and even color displays utilizing electronic ink are around the corner http://www.devlib.org/blog/2005/12/04/electronic-paper/ The grayscale Sony reader will be available this fall for something like $300 or $400 at a Border bookstore near you. http://www.learningcenter.sony.us/assets/pa/prs/index.html Back to top Longworth Guest Posted: Wed Aug 02, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook x-no-archive: yes Ron Natalie wrote: Quote: Can't really comment about the price-performance as MyAirplane.com's store is busted right now and I can't even see the price. I saw the price yesterday something like $1199 sale price (regular price $1499) including one year of database. The eFlybook is basically an iRex's iLiad with aviation docs. The iLiad is selling for $700 http://www.engadget.com/2006/07/23/eflybook-loads-irexs-iliad-with-aviation-docs/ https://www.irexshop.com/ As I mentioned in another post, the competing version is Sony reader, PRS-500 eBook which will be available this fall for about half the price of the iLiad. The color version of electronic ink might be worth waiting for. Hai Longworth Back to top john smith Guest Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 4:03 am    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook In article <5c1Ag.386$o27.277 (AT) newssvr21 (DOT) news.prodigy.com>, "Travis Marlatte" <TMarlatteNO (AT) SPAMTravisCons (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: OK. Why haven't I seen any discussion of the coolest thing I saw announced at Oshkosh? The eFlyBook from myairplane.com and ARINC. Given the current price/technology ratio, it seems like the perfect near-term solution to having electronic charts in a usable package. Did anyone play with one? What's the general opinion? I looked at it. I thought the form factor was the right size. I liked it, but it costs too much. $500 would be more what I would pay. Back to top Travis Marlatte Guest Posted: Thu Aug 03, 2006 5:29 am    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook I'll wait to see what happens. Maybe by Sun n' Fun there will be other options. During Oshkosh, their price was $899. Now their sale price is up to $1199. It just seemed to be a good compromise for $899. Much lighter, smaller, and cheaper than tablet PCs with good form factor for approach charts. Probably useless for enroutes or sectionals. I fly a few hundred hours a year and very little IFR. I spend a lot of time printing charts just in case and never use them. For $250/year for charts for the whole US in a fairly light box - just in case - sounded awful tempting. Of course, since their price went up, that discussion is kind of moot. Even at $899, since it is new to the market, I would hate to shell out the bucks and have a color version out in a few months. Oh well! I'm stuck with Jeppview on my PC at home, printing charts for planned flights with a subscription that only covers the central part of the US. AOPA or myairplane for charts outside of my subscription region. I'd give up JeppView altogether but it is just so darn easy to select a bunch of airports along a route and print double-sided, side-by-side charts. -- ------------------------------- Travis Lake N3094P PWK "john smith" <jsmith (AT) net (DOT) net> wrote in message news:jsmith-DFC2AA.18593802082006@network-065-024-007-027.columbus.rr.com... Quote: In article <5c1Ag.386$o27.277 (AT) newssvr21 (DOT) news.prodigy.com>, "Travis Marlatte" <TMarlatteNO (AT) SPAMTravisCons (DOT) com> wrote: OK. Why haven't I seen any discussion of the coolest thing I saw announced at Oshkosh? The eFlyBook from myairplane.com and ARINC. Given the current price/technology ratio, it seems like the perfect near-term solution to having electronic charts in a usable package. Did anyone play with one? What's the general opinion? I looked at it. I thought the form factor was the right size. I liked it, but it costs too much. $500 would be more what I would pay. Back to top Viperdoc Guest Posted: Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: eFlyBook The advantages are the lack of a hard drive, and the associated potential for crashes at altitude. Also, the screen is much more readable in bright light, and has outstanding battery life. It hopefully will not be as fragile as a tablet PC. I ordered one, since the cost was less than two years of the charts that the unit should potentially replace. Will post feedback when if arrives. 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