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 Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 7:30 pm Post subject: Edinburgh too risky? |
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http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=369892005
Edinburgh too risky?
IN THE early Nineties, Edinburgh Airport handled only 2.5 million
passengers per annum and was a modest provincial operation. These days,
the airport handles eight million passengers, with traffic increasing
at the rate of 7.5 per cent per year. In fact, Edinburgh is now
Scotland's busiest runway in terms of air transport movements.
The reasons for this extraordinary expansion are various: the advent of
the Scottish Parliament, the growth of Edinburgh as a year-round
tourist destination and the rise of the financial-services industry in
the capital. But integral to all this activity lies another factor: by
world standards, Edinburgh is a very safe place to visit. So it comes
as a surprise that the authorities have deemed Edinburgh Airport too
much of a security risk to be used by heads of state coming to Scotland
for the G8 summit - they will fly into Prestwick instead.
It will also be news to the eight million folk who ordinarily use
Edinburgh that the airport is not good enough for visiting politicians.
What do the visitors know that we don't?
More than likely, this is just a case of the security services being
paranoid. Such a pity, though, that Scotland is not being allowed to
show off its ever-expanding gateway to the world.
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 8:14 pm Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:1112988627.304724.265580
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
| Quote: | http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=369892005
Edinburgh too risky?
IN THE early Nineties, Edinburgh Airport handled only 2.5 million
passengers per annum and was a modest provincial operation. These
days,
the airport handles eight million passengers, with traffic increasing
at the rate of 7.5 per cent per year. In fact, Edinburgh is now
Scotland's busiest runway in terms of air transport movements.
The reasons for this extraordinary expansion are various: the advent
of
the Scottish Parliament, the growth of Edinburgh as a year-round
tourist destination and the rise of the financial-services industry in
the capital. But integral to all this activity lies another factor: by
world standards, Edinburgh is a very safe place to visit. So it comes
as a surprise that the authorities have deemed Edinburgh Airport too
much of a security risk to be used by heads of state coming to
Scotland
for the G8 summit - they will fly into Prestwick instead.
It will also be news to the eight million folk who ordinarily use
Edinburgh that the airport is not good enough for visiting
politicians.
What do the visitors know that we don't?
More than likely, this is just a case of the security services being
paranoid. Such a pity, though, that Scotland is not being allowed to
show off its ever-expanding gateway to the world.
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Interesting post. Perhaps the PIK and EDI groups would be interested
in it?
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Blimpee
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:24 pm Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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The message <Xns9632D81CD1CF4z (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119>
from A <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> contains these words:
| Quote: | "S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:1112988627.304724.265580
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Interesting post. Perhaps the PIK and EDI groups would be interested
in it?
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EDI group has it... I can't understand why the 'Snitch' hasn't reported
Skyenews
for reproducing a Scotsman article in full.?
Wrong newsgroup perhaps.? Or perhaps Googlegroups would tell him to P*ss off.?
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Blimpee
administrator, alt.airports.uk.glasgow
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Gavin Coates
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:49 pm Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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A wrote:
| Quote: | "S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:1112988627.304724.265580
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=369892005
Edinburgh too risky?
IN THE early Nineties, Edinburgh Airport handled only 2.5 million
passengers per annum and was a modest provincial operation. These
days,
the airport handles eight million passengers, with traffic increasing
at the rate of 7.5 per cent per year. In fact, Edinburgh is now
Scotland's busiest runway in terms of air transport movements.
The reasons for this extraordinary expansion are various: the advent
of
the Scottish Parliament, the growth of Edinburgh as a year-round
tourist destination and the rise of the financial-services industry in
the capital. But integral to all this activity lies another factor: by
world standards, Edinburgh is a very safe place to visit. So it comes
as a surprise that the authorities have deemed Edinburgh Airport too
much of a security risk to be used by heads of state coming to
Scotland
for the G8 summit - they will fly into Prestwick instead.
It will also be news to the eight million folk who ordinarily use
Edinburgh that the airport is not good enough for visiting
politicians.
What do the visitors know that we don't?
More than likely, this is just a case of the security services being
paranoid. Such a pity, though, that Scotland is not being allowed to
show off its ever-expanding gateway to the world.
Interesting post. Perhaps the PIK and EDI groups would be interested
in it?
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A rather pathetic piece of journalism if you ask me. Are they seriously
trying to say that the reason they switched to prestwick was due to poor
security checks by EDIs staff?
Im sure the reason was more due to the fact that its been so well
publicised that the flights were coming to EDI that all the protesters
have decided to converge on the airport and the police were worried
about protesters scaling the fence and entering the airport...
To be honest i think the same risk will exist at any facility, both
prestwick and glasgow have had recent incidents where unauthorised
personnel have made it through the perimeter fence. Correct me if im
wrong, but i dont remember EDI having any such incidents in recent years?
Anyway, im really surprised that article was published in the scotsman,
it would be more at home in the ET :(
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G Coates
webmaster
www.taxiwayalpha.com
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Clive Braham
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| Posted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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"Gavin Coates" <webmaster (AT) SPAMtaxiwayalpha (DOT) com> wrote
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A rather pathetic piece of journalism if you ask me. Are they seriously
trying to say that the reason they switched to prestwick was due to poor
security checks by EDIs staff?
Im sure the reason was more due to the fact that its been so well
publicised that the flights were coming to EDI that all the protesters
have decided to converge on the airport and the police were worried about
protesters scaling the fence and entering the airport...
To be honest i think the same risk will exist at any facility, both
prestwick and glasgow have had recent incidents where unauthorised
personnel have made it through the perimeter fence. Correct me if im
wrong, but i dont remember EDI having any such incidents in recent years?
Anyway, im really surprised that article was published in the scotsman, it
would be more at home in the ET :(
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Probably best to have kept the information as quiet as possible and outwit
the protestors. I mean what good could possibly come of it by alerting the
trouble makers? Dunno what the ET or GLA's security record has to do with it
Gavin.
Clive
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BBB
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 12:04 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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"Gavin Coates" <webmaster (AT) SPAMtaxiwayalpha (DOT) com> wrote
| Quote: | A wrote:
"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:1112988627.304724.265580
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
http://thescotsman.scotsman.com/opinion.cfm?id=369892005
Edinburgh too risky?
IN THE early Nineties, Edinburgh Airport handled only 2.5 million
passengers per annum and was a modest provincial operation. These
days,
the airport handles eight million passengers, with traffic increasing
at the rate of 7.5 per cent per year. In fact, Edinburgh is now
Scotland's busiest runway in terms of air transport movements.
The reasons for this extraordinary expansion are various: the advent
of
the Scottish Parliament, the growth of Edinburgh as a year-round
tourist destination and the rise of the financial-services industry in
the capital. But integral to all this activity lies another factor: by
world standards, Edinburgh is a very safe place to visit. So it comes
as a surprise that the authorities have deemed Edinburgh Airport too
much of a security risk to be used by heads of state coming to
Scotland
for the G8 summit - they will fly into Prestwick instead.
It will also be news to the eight million folk who ordinarily use
Edinburgh that the airport is not good enough for visiting
politicians.
What do the visitors know that we don't?
More than likely, this is just a case of the security services being
paranoid. Such a pity, though, that Scotland is not being allowed to
show off its ever-expanding gateway to the world.
Interesting post. Perhaps the PIK and EDI groups would be interested
in it?
A rather pathetic piece of journalism if you ask me. Are they seriously
trying to say that the reason they switched to prestwick was due to poor
security checks by EDIs staff?
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At the end of the day "Dubya" etc will set foot on tarmac at wherever from
"Air Force 1" then step right onto "Marine 1" for the flight to Gleneagles,
end of story.
| Quote: | Im sure the reason was more due to the fact that its been so well
publicised that the flights were coming to EDI that all the protesters
have decided to converge on the airport and the police were worried
about protesters scaling the fence and entering the airport...
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As mentioned elsewhere, I think various airports will see movements by G8
visitors.
| Quote: | To be honest i think the same risk will exist at any facility, both
prestwick and glasgow have had recent incidents where unauthorised
personnel have made it through the perimeter fence. Correct me if im
wrong, but i dont remember EDI having any such incidents in recent years?
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What about the guy with boltcutters?
| Quote: | Anyway, im really surprised that article was published in the scotsman,
it would be more at home in the ET 
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John Reid
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 7:58 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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It is written in message
<1112988627.304724.265580 (AT) z14g2000cwz (DOT) googlegroups.com> that S sayeth :
| Quote: | It will also be news to the eight million folk who ordinarily use
Edinburgh that the airport is not good enough for visiting politicians.
What do the visitors know that we don't?
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There's another view of this though, and that is that the politicians
are not going to inconvenience the regulars with the huge disruption
that surrounds their flights. The special airspace, the special
handling, the special ground arrangements, all mean that everyone gets a
bad deal. I am pleased they are going to an airport with lots of
capacity which can easily deal with them well away from the normal
passengers.
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John
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John Reid
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 8:03 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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It is written in message <2005040900244766937 (AT) edinburghairport (DOT) org.uk>
that Blimpee sayeth :
| Quote: | EDI group has it... I can't understand why the 'Snitch' hasn't reported
Skyenews
for reproducing a Scotsman article in full.?
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Not worth discussing in that group, it has a troll in it who tries to
suppress any reasonable discussions. I suppose you had to point out that
I hadn't read it before you. Let's say I give you the reason - this is
the first post by this poster I have seen. You, Dear Mr Troll, have had
over 1000 posts which fall into the criminal category.
| Quote: | Wrong newsgroup perhaps.? Or perhaps Googlegroups would tell him to
P*ss off.?
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What have Google to with this discussion? They would certainly not use
bad language, I always find them most polite.
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John
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paris
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:10 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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Blimpee wrote:
| Quote: | The message <Xns9632D81CD1CF4z (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119
from A
"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:1112988627.304724.265580
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Interesting post. Perhaps the PIK and EDI groups would be
interested
in it?
EDI group has it... I can't understand why the 'Snitch' hasn't
reported
Skyenews
for reproducing a Scotsman article in full.?
Wrong newsgroup perhaps.? Or perhaps Googlegroups would tell him to
P*ss off.?
--
Blimpee
administrator, alt.airports.uk.glasgow
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Mabye its just that EDI is too small to be able to cope with such
aircraft landing there? I used EDI recently for the very excellent
Germanwings flight to CGN. Compared with other main UK airports-All
London, BHX, MAN & GLA it is just a small, but growing operation.
PIK would be the idea'll landing point for such aircraft. It has plenty
of space and little traffic at any time of the day or day of the week.
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BBB
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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"paris" <gdunnhome20 (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote
| Quote: | Mabye its just that EDI is too small to be able to cope with such
aircraft landing there? I used EDI recently for the very excellent
Germanwings flight to CGN. Compared with other main UK airports-All
London, BHX, MAN & GLA it is just a small, but growing operation.
PIK would be the idea'll landing point for such aircraft. It has plenty
of space and little traffic at any time of the day or day of the week.
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Both EDI and GLA extremely limited for parking space these days, PIK has a
large apron on the north side which is more than adequate for parking Air
Force1, Blair Force 1 (assuming he's still in) etc etc...
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/404327/L/
http://www.airliners.net/open.file/239660/L/
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Jim Mason
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:41 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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In article <2005040900244766937 (AT) edinburghairport (DOT) org.uk>,
[email]blimpee (AT) edinburghairport (DOT) org.uk[/email] says...
| Quote: | The message <Xns9632D81CD1CF4z (AT) 194 (DOT) 247.47.119
from A
"S" <skyenews (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in news:1112988627.304724.265580
@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com:
Interesting post. Perhaps the PIK and EDI groups would be interested
in it?
EDI group has it... I can't understand why the 'Snitch' hasn't reported
Skyenews
for reproducing a Scotsman article in full.?
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The snitch - an interesting comment who openly boasts about getting
peoples accounts closed. If you have a problem take it up with Paul
Martin - he is the one who wanted examples of your copyright breaches
forwrded to him. I'm sorry you don't feel quite as smug as you used to
thinking you could hide behind Zetnet's protection. Just remember - they
have a reputation to uphold.
Jim
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Blimpee
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| Posted: Sat Apr 09, 2005 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Edinburgh too risky? |
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The message <1113045048.153956.160660 (AT) l41g2000cwc (DOT) googlegroups.com>
from "paris" <gdunnhome20 (AT) aol (DOT) com> contains these words:
| Quote: | Mabye its just that EDI is too small to be able to cope with such
aircraft landing there? I used EDI recently for the very excellent
Germanwings flight to CGN. Compared with other main UK airports-All
London, BHX, MAN & GLA it is just a small,
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The whole of runway 12/30 to park on and it's too small.?
Remember CHOGM? Remember all these International Rugby matches.?
Too small...unbelievable..
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administrator, alt.airports.uk.glasgow
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