AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding Goto page 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Edinburgh Airport View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message David Hansen Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:04 pm    Post subject: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Is the rail link the best way of spending the money? How much of the station should be preserved? The meeting is an opportunity to hear some views from interested parties on these projects and express your views. The meeting will take place at 2pm on Saturday 13/12/03 in the Grosvenor Hotel, Grosvenor Street, by Haymarket station. Entry is free, no reservations are necessary, tea and biscuits are provided. Have a break from the Christmas shopping:-) -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. Back to top Ian McMillan Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild David Hansen <SENDdavidNOhSPAM (AT) spidacom (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message [email]hmsprvoo7t22ot4gkn9857edr8ph136pnn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com[/email] Quote: Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Who are Railfuture? -- Ian McMillan [email]ian (AT) NOSPAMimcmillan (DOT) co.uk[/email] http://groups.yahoo.com/group/scot-rail http://rail.fpic.co.uk - last updated 30/9/03 Pendolino in Glasgow Back to top Paul Hutchinson Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild Interesting will railfuture only be putting forward the interests of locals? I use Edinburgh Airport as my node for journeys to much of Scotland because of its excellant links to Gatwick. For me a rail link to the airport would be the most important public transport investment in Scotland, but it would have to offer a service to a wide range of destinations and not just the city centre. Off topic I Know but does any one know why Scottish Citylink do not serve the airport? Tomorrow Im travelling from Sussex to Fort William via Edinburgh Airport and I have a choice of local buses to obscure bus stops in the Edinburgh Suburbs to get a coach onwards to Fort William. Paul On Thu, W20 Nov 2003 17:04:24 +0000, David Hansen <SENDdavidNOhSPAM (AT) spidacom (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Quote: Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Is the rail link the best way of spending the money? How much of the station should be preserved? The meeting is an opportunity to hear some views from interested parties on these projects and express your views. The meeting will take place at 2pm on Saturday 13/12/03 in the Grosvenor Hotel, Grosvenor Street, by Haymarket station. Entry is free, no reservations are necessary, tea and biscuits are provided. Have a break from the Christmas shopping:-) -- Using M2, Opera's revolutionary e-mail client: http://www.opera.com/m2/ Back to top Nathan Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 5:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild Quote: Who are Railfuture? www.railfuture.org.uk A bit like Greenpeace but for a better railway system. Nathan Back to top fox1 Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:04:24 +0000, David Hansen <SENDdavidNOhSPAM (AT) spidacom (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Quote: Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Is the rail link the best way of spending the money? I can't understand why electrification into Edinburgh Airport's proposed rail tunnel should be considered a problem.? Back to top fox1 Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:12 -0000, "Ian McMillan" <ian (AT) NOSPAMimcmillan (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Quote: Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Who are Railfuture? Wondering the same.... :-( Back to top fox1 Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 6:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:22 -0000, Paul Hutchinson <phutch1609 (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: Interesting will railfuture only be putting forward the interests of locals? I use Edinburgh Airport as my node for journeys to much of Scotland because of its excellant links to Gatwick. For me a rail link to the airport would be the most important public transport investment in Scotland, but it would have to offer a service to a wide range of destinations and not just the city centre. Heavy rail.... the problem is that another Scottish city is desperately trying for the same heavy rail link...is this Scotland we are talking about or what.? Quote: Off topic I Know but does any one know why Scottish Citylink do not serve the airport? Tomorrow Im travelling from Sussex to Fort William via Edinburgh Airport and I have a choice of local buses to obscure bus stops in the Edinburgh Suburbs to get a coach onwards to Fort William. BAA own both Edinburgh and Glasgow airports...they and only they can sanction/lobby citylink services to call into Edinburgh Airport, I think the only way forward for Edinburgh Airport is under an independent owner, one who will not tolerate all those passengers passing Edinburgh's front door and heading west, bypassing a perfectly useable airport at Edinburgh in the process Look at the recent route announcements from BAA, Edinburgh is categorised for European routes and Glasgow for long-haul. Scandalous! Back to top Clive Braham Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 7:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild "fox1" <fox1 (AT) NOSPAMedinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote in message > Quote: Look at the recent route announcements from BAA, Edinburgh is categorised for European routes and Glasgow for long-haul. Scandalous! Newark, New Jersey? Back to top John Dundas Guest Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2003 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild "fox1" <fox1 (AT) NOSPAMedinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote Quote: On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:04:24 +0000, David Hansen [email]SENDdavidNOhSPAM (AT) spidacom (DOT) co.uk[/email]> wrote: Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Is the rail link the best way of spending the money? I can't understand why electrification into Edinburgh Airport's proposed rail tunnel should be considered a problem.? Why not ask them.....oh thats right you dont do things like that. Back to top Ross Guest Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 12:04 am    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:12 -0000, Ian McMillan wrote in <3fbcfa2b$0$13355$cc9e4d1f (AT) news-text (DOT) dial.pipex.com>, seen in uk.railway: Quote: David Hansen <SENDdavidNOhSPAM (AT) spidacom (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message [email]hmsprvoo7t22ot4gkn9857edr8ph136pnn (AT) 4ax (DOT) com[/email] Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Who are Railfuture? Used to be called the "Railway Development Society". A rail pressure group. -- Ross Hamilton, in Lincoln (UK) From address *will* bounce Quote: New to uk.railway? Read the Frequently Asked Questions at the uk.railway FAQ site: <http://www.ukrailwayfaq.co.uk Back to top Five Cats Guest Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 8:54 am    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild In article <opryx5uwdjl8cn0h@localhost>, Paul Hutchinson <phutch1609 (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> writes Quote: Interesting will railfuture only be putting forward the interests of locals? I use Edinburgh Airport as my node for journeys to much of Scotland because of its excellant links to Gatwick. For me a rail link to the airport would be the most important public transport investment in Scotland, but it would have to offer a service to a wide range of destinations and not just the city centre. If it is to have a rail link, it needs to be with both Glasgow & Edinburgh, and also Fife. I suspect the link to Fife might be by changing at Haymarket, but that would require attention to that station as whilst people coming from the airport would just have to cross the central island platform, those coming from Fife would have to get from the N. platform to the S. one, and I don't recall much in the way of lifts / escalators for those with lots of luggage. Quote: Off topic I Know but does any one know why Scottish Citylink do not serve the airport? Tomorrow Im travelling from Sussex to Fort William via Edinburgh Airport and I have a choice of local buses to obscure bus stops in the Edinburgh Suburbs to get a coach onwards to Fort William. <snip> -- Surfer! If you really want to send me email then use: five_cats at uk2 dot net Back to top Andy Kirkham Guest Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild David Hansen <SENDdavidNOhSPAM (AT) spidacom (DOT) co.uk> wrote Quote: Railfuture will be holding a public meeting in mid December to discuss the Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuilding. Is the rail link the best way of spending the money? How much of the station should be preserved? The meeting is an opportunity to hear some views from interested parties on these projects and express your views. The meeting will take place at 2pm on Saturday 13/12/03 in the Grosvenor Hotel, Grosvenor Street, by Haymarket station. Entry is free, no reservations are necessary, tea and biscuits are provided. Have a break from the Christmas shopping:-) I have another engagement that day, I'm afraid. But I will just take this opportunity to mention my opinion that Waverley station has no particular aesthetic merit - especially not the ponderous and dreary interior of the booking hall - and I'd be perfectly happy if it were all replaced by a thoroughly efficient new station with high quality architecture. (However, I fear the reality might turn out to be another version of the hideous St.James shopping centre with trains confined in a gloomy basement) Andy Kirkham Glasgow Back to top David Hansen Guest Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:29:12 -0000 someone who may be "Ian McMillan" <ian (AT) NOSPAMimcmillan (DOT) co.uk> wrote this:- Quote: Who are Railfuture? http://www.railfuture.org.uk/ -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. Back to top David Hansen Guest Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:03 am    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 17:36:22 -0000 someone who may be Paul Hutchinson <phutch1609 (AT) btinternet (DOT) com> wrote this:- Quote: Interesting will railfuture only be putting forward the interests of locals? I use Edinburgh Airport as my node for journeys to much of Scotland because of its excellant links to Gatwick. For me a rail link to the airport would be the most important public transport investment in Scotland, but it would have to offer a service to a wide range of destinations and not just the city centre. Railfuture has been campaigning for proper rail links to Glasgow and Edinburgh airports for many years. That means services that run to places like Dundee, not just a train to the city centres. The counter argument is that this will be very expensive to do. There will be a tram running from Edinburgh Park to the airport. Would it not be better to build an interchange station at Gogar so people from Fife could change to the tram? Relatively few people use the airport and should the journeys of the much larger number of people travelling between Fife and the city be extended to cater for people using the airport? It would be interesting to do a cost benefit analysis, using the same figures for cost of time as used in calculations for new roads, to see what the benefits are. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. Back to top David Hansen Guest Posted: Fri Nov 21, 2003 10:07 am    Post subject: Re: Edinburgh airport rail link and Waverley station rebuild On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 08:54:07 +0000 someone who may be Five Cats <cats_five (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote this:- Quote: If it is to have a rail link, it needs to be with both Glasgow & Edinburgh, and also Fife. That is what the Executive is proposing, with no change for those from Fife. However, given the cost of building a railway tunnel under the airport it may well be cheaper to move the airport terminal buildings to Turnhouse, build a station there on the Fife line and divert Falkirk trains that way. I have not seen this costed by the Executive. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh | PGP email preferred-key number F566DA0E I will always explain revoked keys, unless the UK government prevents me using the RIP Act 2000. 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