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EDI capable FAQ
Here is a list of some aircraft takeoff/landing figures. Not a full
list but will be
updated later.
They are all sea level/ISA figures, included typical pax loads
(usual 2/3 class split depending on type) and ranges for this takeoff length.
Based on most common engine choice so published figures can be variable with
different engine options. Range figures included which incorporate
maximum tankeage at this airfield performance, on some aircraft this means
the fitment of additional tanks at the detriment of cargo capacity.
Therefore this may clash with some figures you have seen published as they
normally only list range on standard max fuel.
Paragraph below details EDI runway length, TORA,TODA,ASDA,LDA.
EDINBURGH EGPH 5557N 0322W 135FT (41.5M) 06/24 8400FT(2584M)
06 TORA 8400FT (2584M) ASDA/TODA 8600FT (2646M) LDA 7700FT (2369M)
24 TORA 8400FT (2584M) ASDA 8600FT (2646M) TODA 9865FT (3035) LDA
7700FT (2369)
Runway is CAT II/IIIa with full autoland facilities.
TORA-Take Off Run Available
TODA-Take Off Distance Available
ASDA-Actual Distance Available
LDA-Landing Distance Available
Aircraft and Range Minimum runway requirement
Concorde Takeoff : 2900m, Landing : 2150m * Range reduction
6,200km with 100 pax
Airbus A300 B4-200 Takeoff : 2850m, Landing : 1635m * Range reduction
5,270km with 251 pax
Airbus A300-600R Takeoff : 2280m, Landing : 1489m
7,700km with 266 pax
Airbus A310-200 Takeoff : 1860m, Landing : 1480m
4,633km with 220 pax
Airbus A310-300 Takeoff : 2290m, Landing : 1490m
9,600km with 218 pax
Airbus A318-100 Takeoff : 1355m, Landing : 1356m
5,270km with 107 pax
Airbus A319 -100 Takeoff : 1950m, Landing : 1450m
6,800km with 124 pax
Airbus A320-200 Takeoff : 2090m, Landing : 1530m
5,500km with 150 pax
Airbus A321-200 Takeoff : 2180m, Landing : 1577m
5,500km with 185 pax
Airbus A330-200 Takeoff : 2220m, Landing : 1750m
12,300km with 253 pax
Airbus A330-300 Takeoff : 2500m, Landing : 1750m
10,500km with 295 pax
Airbus A340-200 Takeoff : 2990m, Landing : 1890m * Range reduction
14,800km with 239 pax
Airbus A340-300 Takeoff : 3000m, Landing : 1926m * Range reduction
13,500km with 295 pax
Airbus A340-500 Takeoff : 3050m, Landing : 2010m * Range reduction
15,750km with 313 pax
Airbus A340-600 Takeoff : 3100m, Landing : 2100m * Range reduction
13,900km with 380 pax
Boeing 727-200Adv Takeoff : 3033m, Landing : 1494m * Range reduction
4,720km with 134 pax
Boeing 737-200Adv Takeoff : 1990m, Landing : 1350m
3,700km with 120 pax
Boeing 737-300 Takeoff : 1939m, Landing : 1396m
4,790km with 141 pax
Boeing 737-400 Takeoff : 2540m, Landing : 1540m
4,625km with 146 pax
Boeing 737-500 Takeoff : 2470m, Landing : 1360m
5,550km with 108 pax
Boeing 747-200B Takeoff : 3190m, Landing : 1890m * Range reduction
10,660km with 452 pax
Boeing 747-300 Takeoff : 3322m, Landing : 1905m * Range reduction
10,360km with 452 pax
Boeing 747-400 Takeoff : 3018m, Landing : 2179m * Range reduction
13,320km with 400 pax
Boeing 757-200 Takeoff : 2377m, Landing : 1544m
7,400km with 186 pax
Boeing 757-300 Takeoff : 2550m, Landing : 1750m
6,410km with 243 pax
Boeing 767-200ER Takeoff : 2620m, Landing : 1524m
12,300km with 181 pax
Boeing 767-300ER Takeoff : 2713m, Landing : 1676m * Range reduction
11,400km with 218 pax
Boeing 767-400ER Takeoff : 3382m, Landing : 1859m * Range reduction
10,440km with 245 pax
Boeing 777-200ER Takeoff : 3018m, Landing : 1630m * Range reduction
14,400km with 305 pax
Boeing 777-200LR Takeoff : 3170m, Landing : 1675m * Range reduction
16,405km with 301 pax
Boeing 777-300 Takeoff : 3703m, Landing : 1844m * Range reduction
11,080km with 368 pax
Boeing 777-300ER Takeoff : 3260m, Landing : 1920m * Range reduction
13,330km with 365 pax
Boeing MD-81 Takeoff : 2210m, Landing : 1478m
2,897km with 155 pax
Boeing MD-82 Takeoff : 2271m, Landing : 1500m
3,798km with 155 pax
Boeing MD-83 Takeoff : 2553m, Landing : 1585m
4,635km with 155 pax
Boeing MD-87 Takeoff : 1859m, Landing : 1430m
4,395km with 130 pax
Boeing MD-11 Takeoff : 3115m, Landing : 2118m * Range reduction
12,805km with 285 pax
Ilyushin Il-86 Takeoff : 3350m, Landing : 2300m * Range reduction
3,600km with 234 pax
Ilyushin Il-96-300 Takeoff : 2600m, Landing : 1980m
7,500km with 235 pax
Lockheed L1011-1 Tristar Takeoff : 2423m, Landing : 1737m
5,735km with 310 pax
Lockheed L1011-100 Tristar Takeoff : 3292m, Landing : 1768m *
Range reduction
7,030km with 310 pax
Lockheed L1011-250 Tristar Takeoff : 2987m, Landing : 2042m *
Range reduction
9,410km with 280 pax
Lockheed L1011-500 Tristar Takeoff : 2636m, Landing : 2073m
9,905km with 250 pax
MD DC-9-30 Takeoff : 1777m, Landing : 1317m
2,940km with 105 pax
MD DC-9-50 Takeoff : 2362m, Landing : 1439m
1,850km with 125 pax
MD DC10-10 Takeoff : 2625m, Landing : 1720m
5,370km with 277 pax
MD DC10-30 Takeoff : 2847m, Landing : 1758m * Range reduction
10,450km with 277 pax
Tupolev Tu-154M Takeoff : 2100m, Landing : 2060m
3,700km with 180 pax
Tupolev TU-204-100 Takeoff : 2500m, Landing : 2130m
4,900km with 196 pax
Tupolev TU-214 Takeoff : 2050m, Landing : 2000m
4,800km with 182 pax
Yak 42D Takeoff : 1500m, Landing : 1670m
1,900km with 120 pax
Acknowledgements: Anon, London
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 5:42 pm Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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| Quote: | EDINBURGH EGPH 5557N 0322W 135FT (41.5M) 06/24 8400FT(2584M)
06 TORA 8400FT (2584M) ASDA/TODA 8600FT (2646M) LDA 7700FT (2369M)
24 TORA 8400FT (2584M) ASDA 8600FT (2646M) TODA 9865FT (3035) LDA
7700FT (2369)
Runway is CAT II/IIIa with full autoland facilities.
TORA-Take Off Run Available
TODA-Take Off Distance Available
ASDA-Actual Distance Available
LDA-Landing Distance Available
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A little ambitious here, I think! 06/24 is 2560M (8399ft) by 46M (151ft)
wide.
06 TORA 2560M (8399ft). TODA/ASDA 2621M (8599ft). LDA 2347M (7700ft).
24 TORA 2560M (8399ft). TODA 3007M (9865ft). ASDA 2621M (8599ft). LDA
2347M (7700ft).
06 from B1 TORA 1889M (6198ft). TODA/ASDA 1950M (6398 ft).
24 from C1 TORA 1889M (6198ft). TODA 2336M (7664ft). ASDA 1950M (6398 ft).
And for the record,
12/30 is 1798M (5899ft) by 46M (151ft) wide.
12 TORA/ASDA/LDA 1798M (5899ft). TODA 1902M (6240ft).
30 TORA/ASDA 1798M (5899ft). TODA 1983M (6506ft). LDA 1746M (5728ft).
And finally, ASDA is Accelerate - Stop Distance Available (ie how much
physical concrete between the start of the take off run and the end of the
actual runway surface). This doesn't make any allowance for a climb angle
for clearing the airfield fence etc, as it's for a rejected take off only,
and may include surfaces not declared as the normal runway (eg at EDI the
runway extends slightly past the taxiways, which is where the end is
declared to be). TORA is the amount of concrete available declared as the
runway, and TODA is the amount of concrete available, plus any clearway, (ie
an area of ground free of obstacles, subject to a certain specified angle,
and also subject to certain exclusions). LDA, reasonably enough, is the
amount of concrete from the threshold to the end of the declared runway (as
can be seen, both 06 and 24 LDA is less than the TORA, as EDI has displaced
thresholds on both ends of the main runway, inset by 213M).
It seems it was the metric conversion that went wrong in the figures, as the
imperial measurements seem ok, but the ones above are correct in both units
(to the nearest foot, anyway).
Hope that helps!
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Joe Curry
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:10 pm Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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The message <8IV_e.14753$RW.3377 (AT) fe2 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Cleared for Take Off" <anon (AT) anon (DOT) co.uk> contains these words:
| Quote: | EDINBURGH EGPH 5557N 0322W 135FT (41.5M) 06/24 8400FT(2584M)
06 TORA 8400FT (2584M) ASDA/TODA 8600FT (2646M) LDA 7700FT (2369M)
24 TORA 8400FT (2584M) ASDA 8600FT (2646M) TODA 9865FT (3035) LDA
7700FT (2369)
Runway is CAT II/IIIa with full autoland facilities.
TORA-Take Off Run Available
TODA-Take Off Distance Available
ASDA-Actual Distance Available
LDA-Landing Distance Available
A little ambitious here, I think! 06/24 is 2560M (8399ft) by 46M (151ft)
wide.
06 TORA 2560M (8399ft). TODA/ASDA 2621M (8599ft). LDA 2347M (7700ft).
24 TORA 2560M (8399ft). TODA 3007M (9865ft). ASDA 2621M (8599ft). LDA
2347M (7700ft).
06 from B1 TORA 1889M (6198ft). TODA/ASDA 1950M (6398 ft).
24 from C1 TORA 1889M (6198ft). TODA 2336M (7664ft). ASDA 1950M (6398 ft).
And for the record,
12/30 is 1798M (5899ft) by 46M (151ft) wide.
12 TORA/ASDA/LDA 1798M (5899ft). TODA 1902M (6240ft).
30 TORA/ASDA 1798M (5899ft). TODA 1983M (6506ft). LDA 1746M (5728ft).
And finally, ASDA is Accelerate - Stop Distance Available (ie how much
physical concrete between the start of the take off run and the end of the
actual runway surface). This doesn't make any allowance for a climb angle
for clearing the airfield fence etc, as it's for a rejected take off only,
and may include surfaces not declared as the normal runway (eg at EDI the
runway extends slightly past the taxiways, which is where the end is
declared to be). TORA is the amount of concrete available declared as the
runway, and TODA is the amount of concrete available, plus any
clearway, (ie
an area of ground free of obstacles, subject to a certain specified angle,
and also subject to certain exclusions). LDA, reasonably enough, is the
amount of concrete from the threshold to the end of the declared runway (as
can be seen, both 06 and 24 LDA is less than the TORA, as EDI has displaced
thresholds on both ends of the main runway, inset by 213M).
It seems it was the metric conversion that went wrong in the figures,
as the
imperial measurements seem ok, but the ones above are correct in both units
(to the nearest foot, anyway).
Hope that helps!
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Joe Curry
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:12 pm Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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The message <8IV_e.14753$RW.3377 (AT) fe2 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Cleared for Take Off" <anon (AT) anon (DOT) co.uk> contains these words:
| Quote: | It seems it was the metric conversion that went wrong in the figures,
as the
imperial measurements seem ok, but the ones above are correct in both units
(to the nearest foot, anyway).
Hope that helps!
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Can you edit the FAQ and post it to me by email.? [email]ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk[/email]
It would be much appreciated.
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BBB
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 7:25 pm Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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Joe Curry wrote:
| Quote: | The message <8IV_e.14753$RW.3377 (AT) fe2 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk
from "Cleared for Take Off"
It seems it was the metric conversion that went wrong in the figures,
as the
imperial measurements seem ok, but the ones above are correct in both units
(to the nearest foot, anyway).
Hope that helps!
Can you edit the FAQ and post it to me by email.? [email]ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk[/email]
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I'll edit your and your only 'posting guidelines' if you want.
B
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Gavin Coates
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| Posted: Thu Sep 29, 2005 10:35 pm Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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BBB wrote:
| Quote: | Joe Curry wrote:
The message <8IV_e.14753$RW.3377 (AT) fe2 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk
from "Cleared for Take Off"
It seems it was the metric conversion that went wrong in the figures,
as the
imperial measurements seem ok, but the ones above are correct in both units
(to the nearest foot, anyway).
Hope that helps!
Can you edit the FAQ and post it to me by email.? [email]ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk[/email]
I'll edit your and your only 'posting guidelines' if you want.
B
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lol
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Joe Curry
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:48 am Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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The message <433c6c48$0$15059$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader02 (DOT) plus.net>
from Gavin Coates <webmaster (AT) SPAMtaxiwayalpha (DOT) com> contains these words:
| Quote: | I'll edit your and your only 'posting guidelines' if you want.
lol
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The ones that a futile/shambolic quorum vote failed to overturn....
The ones that have been in place here since the newsgroup's inception in
1999....
The one's that get posted every month on the 1st.....
The one's BBBlimpie/Deejay made necessary when his nonsense started way back
in 1999...
Decent posters don't need guidelines....
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Joe Curry
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 6:53 am Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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The message <1128021912.168595.13050 (AT) o13g2000cwo (DOT) googlegroups.com>
from "BBB" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> contains these words:
| Quote: | Can you edit the FAQ and post it to me by email.? [email]ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk[/email]
I'll edit your and your only 'posting guidelines' if you want.
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I wish I could have edited your comments about ATC personnel being overpaid
and being unable to identify aircraft a few years back.
We may have kept the ATC personnel who were subscribing this newsgroup
at the time.
More decent posters chased off by BBBlimpie/Deejay?
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John Reid
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:53 am Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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It is written in message <2005093007482766937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> that Joe
Curry sayeth :
| Quote: | The message <433c6c48$0$15059$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader02 (DOT) plus.net
from Gavin Coates
I'll edit your and your only 'posting guidelines' if you want.
lol
The ones that a futile/shambolic quorum vote failed to overturn....
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WRONG WRONG WRONG - as usual - The inquorate vote failed to endorse ANY
guidelines and therefore your version, just like ALL the others is
invalid. You really need to get this clear, as you are seriously and
frequently misleading people in this group on this matter.
| Quote: | The ones that have been in place here since the newsgroup's inception in
1999....
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They have NEVER been in force - they were NEVER accepted in a vote.
Please be clear, and stop spamming with them.
| Quote: | The one's that get posted every month on the 1st.....
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The ones that get spammed every month you mean.
| Quote: | The one's BBBlimpie/Deejay made necessary when his nonsense started way back
in 1999...
Decent posters don't need guidelines....
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Indeed they do not. So please DO NOT post your spam guidelines. Thank
you.
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John Reid
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| Posted: Fri Sep 30, 2005 10:55 am Post subject: Re: EDI capable FAQ |
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It is written in message <2005093007535566937 (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk> that Joe
Curry sayeth :
| Quote: | The message <1128021912.168595.13050 (AT) o13g2000cwo (DOT) googlegroups.com
from "BBB"
Can you edit the FAQ and post it to me by email.? [email]ability (AT) zetnet (DOT) co.uk[/email]
I'll edit your and your only 'posting guidelines' if you want.
I wish I could have edited your comments about ATC personnel being overpaid
and being unable to identify aircraft a few years back.
We may have kept the ATC personnel who were subscribing this newsgroup
at the time.
More decent posters chased off by BBBlimpie/Deejay?
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Perhaps there were. I have seen none "chased off" by anyone EXCEPT
yourself in the last two years. You are a real disgrace in terms of this
sort of behaviour.
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