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PostPosted: Mon Dec 29, 2003 3:05 pm    Post subject: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote



Are BAA operating an aircraft pricing policy to encourage certain
classes into it's three Scottish monopoly airports.?

For instance are airlines charged less at GLA for say, aircraft
above 757 size.?

Are airlines charged less at EDI for aircraft below 757 size.?

It would be interesting to discover the truth about BAA's Scottish
Airport charges....

Airlines MIGHT be free to choose which airport to use but are their
decisions decided ultimately by economic rather than logical
reasons.?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 9:40 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote



Joe

Aircraft are charged per Metric Tonne of aircraft weight. Its split into
categories and charged accordingly.

These charges will never be made to the public but I would probably guess
each airline depending on how many flights they are putting thought the
airport will come to a setprice with the BAA.

Economically airport charges are very similar, they have to be its a
business after all.


"fox1" <fox1 (AT) NOSPAMedinburghairport (DOT) org.uk> wrote

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Are BAA operating an aircraft pricing policy to encourage certain
classes into it's three Scottish monopoly airports.?

For instance are airlines charged less at GLA for say, aircraft
above 757 size.?

Are airlines charged less at EDI for aircraft below 757 size.?

It would be interesting to discover the truth about BAA's Scottish
Airport charges....

Airlines MIGHT be free to choose which airport to use but are their
decisions decided ultimately by economic rather than logical
reasons.?
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"http://www.jetphotos.net/showphotos.php?userid=1753"



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Adrian Tupper
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 30, 2003 10:02 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote



"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote in news:3ff1f0de$0$27395
$edfadb0f (AT) dread16 (DOT) news.tele.dk:

Quote:
Joe

Aircraft are charged per Metric Tonne of aircraft weight. Its split into
categories and charged accordingly.

These charges will never be made to the public but I would probably guess
each airline depending on how many flights they are putting thought the
airport will come to a setprice with the BAA.

Economically airport charges are very similar, they have to be its a
business after all.


So not 50p per passenger more at GLA than EDI then?

--
Adrian

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Clive Braham
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote


"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

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"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote in news:3ff1f0de$0$27395
$edfadb0f (AT) dread16 (DOT) news.tele.dk:

Joe

Aircraft are charged per Metric Tonne of aircraft weight. Its split into
categories and charged accordingly.

These charges will never be made to the public but I would probably
guess
each airline depending on how many flights they are putting thought the
airport will come to a setprice with the BAA.

Economically airport charges are very similar, they have to be its a
business after all.


So not 50p per passenger more at GLA than EDI then?

--
Adrian

I believe there are a whole host of other considerations such as cost
differentials for the airport services required - remote stands/air bridges,
time spent at stand, overnighting, check-in desks, office space, security,
etc



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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

On Tue, 30 Dec 2003 22:40:31 +0100, "CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote:


Quote:
Economically airport charges are very similar, they have to be its a
business after all.


I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?
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fox1
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

On 30 Dec 2003 22:02:59 GMT, Adrian Tupper
<adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Quote:
Economically airport charges are very similar, they have to be its a
business after all.

So not 50p per passenger more at GLA than EDI then?

I think it was 8p for 737 pax.

I'm wondering about pax on larger aircraft... Smile)

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:31 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

Quote:
I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?

The charges between Edinburgh and Glasgow will be pence Joe, not pounds...





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Adrian Tupper
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in
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"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote in news:3ff1f0de$0$27395
$edfadb0f (AT) dread16 (DOT) news.tele.dk:

Joe

Aircraft are charged per Metric Tonne of aircraft weight. Its split
into categories and charged accordingly.

These charges will never be made to the public but I would probably
guess
each airline depending on how many flights they are putting thought
the airport will come to a setprice with the BAA.

Economically airport charges are very similar, they have to be its
a business after all.


So not 50p per passenger more at GLA than EDI then?

--
Adrian

I believe there are a whole host of other considerations such as cost
differentials for the airport services required - remote stands/air
bridges, time spent at stand, overnighting, check-in desks, office
space, security, etc

I would have thought so too. You just can't rely on information
you find in newsgroups these days :-)

--
Adrian

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fox1
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:38 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 15:31:32 +0100, "CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote:

Quote:
I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?

The charges between Edinburgh and Glasgow will be pence Joe, not pounds...


I dunno, I'll have to see the actual tarriffs before I believe there
is parity.

BAA used to charge 757s extra at EDI...I'm wondering if the 767 and
above tariff remains unchanged.

The only thing to satisfy any doubt is proof of the pudding...

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:40 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

On 31 Dec 2003 14:36:27 GMT, Adrian Tupper
<adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote:


Quote:
I believe there are a whole host of other considerations such as cost
differentials for the airport services required - remote stands/air
bridges, time spent at stand, overnighting, check-in desks, office
space, security, etc

I would have thought so too. You just can't rely on information
you find in newsgroups these days Smile


I would have thought that charges at EDI and GLA were identical
given each airport is owned by BAA...?
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John Dundas
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 3:41 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote


"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:
I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?

The charges between Edinburgh and Glasgow will be pence Joe, not pounds...



I think what Joe was trying too put forward was that EDI was a BUSINESS

airport and GLA a bucket and spade airport.



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Clive Braham
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:25 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote


"Adrian Tupper" <adrian.tupper (AT) totalise (DOT) co.uk> wrote

Quote:

I believe there are a whole host of other considerations such as cost
differentials for the airport services required - remote stands/air
bridges, time spent at stand, overnighting, check-in desks, office
space, security, etc

I would have thought so too. You just can't rely on information
you find in newsgroups these days :-)

--
Adrian

Well I'm basing that on the Aer Rianta web site which shows a breakdown of
the charges. I'm assuming that's the way it works elsewhere.



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Clive Braham
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 31, 2003 5:27 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote


"John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) ggggggbtinternet (DOT) com> wrote

Quote:

"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:3ff2ddd3$0$27431$edfadb0f (AT) dread16 (DOT) news.tele.dk...
I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?

The charges between Edinburgh and Glasgow will be pence Joe, not
pounds...



I think what Joe was trying too put forward was that EDI was a BUSINESS
airport and GLA a bucket and spade airport.


He wouldn't believe it anyway if it turned out the charges didn't suit him.




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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote


"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote

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"John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) ggggggbtinternet (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:3ff2ddd3$0$27431$edfadb0f (AT) dread16 (DOT) news.tele.dk...
I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?

The charges between Edinburgh and Glasgow will be pence Joe, not
pounds...



I think what Joe was trying too put forward was that EDI was a BUSINESS
airport and GLA a bucket and spade airport.


He wouldn't believe it anyway if it turned out the charges didn't suit
him.


Just like the FoAI report, remember him throwing the rattle out his pram
over that one?! ;-)

BLIMPS



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PostPosted: Thu Jan 01, 2004 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: EDI 'calming'? Reply with quote

In article <bt1kk8$hu2$1 (AT) sparta (DOT) btinternet.com>, [email]BLIMPS (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com[/email]
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"Clive Braham" <clive (AT) braham5 (DOT) freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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"John Dundas" <j.m.dundas (AT) ggggggbtinternet (DOT) com> wrote in message
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"CAB" <ca (AT) music (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:3ff2ddd3$0$27431$edfadb0f (AT) dread16 (DOT) news.tele.dk...
I understand that Colin, what I would like to know is whether these
charges vary enough between EDI and GLA to affect classes of traffic
using each airport.?

The charges between Edinburgh and Glasgow will be pence Joe, not
pounds...



I think what Joe was trying too put forward was that EDI was a BUSINESS
airport and GLA a bucket and spade airport.


He wouldn't believe it anyway if it turned out the charges didn't suit
him.

Just like the FoAI report, remember him throwing the rattle out his pram
over that one?! Wink

Oh memories :-)

Jim

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