AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Eagle with floats FOR SLAE          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Light aircraft View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Bill Pleasants Guest Posted: Sun Dec 14, 2003 11:53 pm    Post subject: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE I have an American Aerolight Eagle that was stored indoors in the unopened box till now. I set it up and it is like new and the engine runs (I replaced the air filter and engine mounts). In addition to the wheel landing gear, a set of floats is included. This was used once with another Eagle and is like new. Here are the details: Model Eagle 214B Style Fire Eagle Span 35 ft. Weight 175 lb. Pilot weight 90 - 180 lb. Engine 215 cc Cuyuna Drive Belt reduction with centrifugal clutch Propeller 54 x 24 in. hardwood Floats White fiberglass, 32 lb. Price $2500, FOB Dahlonega, GA Please reply to sender or call 770-718-9696. Back to top AL Guest Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE Bill, please try to find out if the stitching in the sail has the newer modifications. The early Eagles killed a few people when (I think it was) the trailing edge stitching came apart in flight. -- Al Mills Wake me before we take off... "Bill Pleasants" <Bill_Pleasants (AT) aaahawk (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I have an American Aerolight Eagle that was stored indoors in the unopened box till now. I set it up and it is like new and the engine runs (I replaced the air filter and engine mounts). In addition to the wheel landing gear, a set of floats is included. This was used once with another Eagle and is like new. Here are the details: Model Eagle 214B Style Fire Eagle Span 35 ft. Weight 175 lb. Pilot weight 90 - 180 lb. Engine 215 cc Cuyuna Drive Belt reduction with centrifugal clutch Propeller 54 x 24 in. hardwood Floats White fiberglass, 32 lb. Price $2500, FOB Dahlonega, GA Please reply to sender or call 770-718-9696. Back to top Mark Smith Guest Posted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE AL wrote: Quote: Bill, please try to find out if the stitching in the sail has the newer modifications. The early Eagles killed a few people when (I think it was) the trailing edge stitching came apart in flight. -- Al Mills actually, the material itself came apart, this plane has no trailing edge, and the material is tightly held out with a long sweeping curve which is the de facto trailing edge, this material is loaded very heavily in tension, the highest loads near the small enclosure sewn in for the fuel tank at the center, this is where most failed, allowing the material; to flap, and drag the plane in a spiral decent to the ground, this plane made the BRS what it is today,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, the fix is to sew a full span piece of belting across the traning edge, under the existing material, so as to keep it out of the sun,,,,,,,,,,,, also, reinforcing the tank area and the root of the sail helps with the extra loads this area sees, a new sail would have these changes for sure, I hope,,,,,,, but the lack of a hangar is/was the main culprit,,,,,,,,,,, Mark Smith Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com 1121 N Locust St Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:mark (AT) trikite (DOT) com Back to top GASSITT Guest Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2003 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle , probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are , that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing stitching a problem in that area ! Back to top Mark Smith Guest Posted: Mon Dec 22, 2003 8:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE GASSITT wrote: Quote: TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle , probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are , that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing stitching a problem in that area ! right, never owned an eagle, repaired a bunch, flew one once, a double chrysler, prolly before your time,,,,,, weight shift, BTW, what was different about the single that made it safer from sun damaging what was the trailing edge, ie, the fabric ? heavier plane, and definitely the two seater, but what kept the single ws from having the sail fail ? a little less weight maybe, or not enough 'time in the sun' ? -- Mark Smith Tri-State Kite Sales http://www.trikite.com 1121 N Locust St Mt Vernon, IN 47620 mailto:mark (AT) trikite (DOT) com Back to top AL Guest Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2003 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE I did in fact own an XL and it didn't fail (ever that I know of). Hearsay is talk, documented accidents such as are recorded on the NTSB website are not hearsay. Denying reality doesn't make it any less real dude. -- Al Mills Wake me before we take off... "GASSITT" <gassitt (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote Quote: TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle , probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are , that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing stitching a problem in that area ! Back to top Rick Sine Guest Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2003 3:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Eagle with floats FOR SLAE My first ultralight was an Eagle XL , Cuyuna powered. I had an absolute blast in that plane. The trailing edge was single stitched and at that time I never heard of any problems about it. It was when I was selling it that I was told about the double stitch. As far as the motor....In the winter I would richen it up slightly, but never had a problem out of it. I did keep new belts(occasionally) and new plugs(religiously) in it. My tank never leaked....I just spilled some once in awhile when fueling it. I really enjoyed those calm evenings in it.....And wish that right now I was chasing those deer around the fields again............... Rick "AL" <al-mills (AT) spareme (DOT) net> wrote Quote: I did in fact own an XL and it didn't fail (ever that I know of). Hearsay is talk, documented accidents such as are recorded on the NTSB website are not hearsay. Denying reality doesn't make it any less real dude. -- Al Mills Wake me before we take off... "GASSITT" <gassitt (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote in message news:20031221120003.15133.00001534 (AT) mb-m04 (DOT) aol.com... TOO bad the world lives by hearsay , have you ever even seen an Eagle , probably not !! it wasn't the weight shift eagles that had the wing tearing problem it was only the Eagle XL and the two place Double Eagle, most poeple have never seen a Cuyuna run or fly , but can sure tell you how bad they are , that 215 Eagle is a great little plane and is car topable, i've had several of all models of Eagles and even if the Eagle XL is flown right it will not come apart it was the fuel leaking from the tank of a few of them that gave the wing stitching a problem in that area ! 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