AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  e-Flight Manuals          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Naval Aviation View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message RaVeNCiO Guest Posted: Sat Nov 05, 2005 7:56 am    Post subject: e-Flight Manuals Hi everybody I'm searching someone for exchange e-flight manuals, here put my list of my e-FM, if you want someone, not doupt in contact with me: Airbus A318/19/20/21 about 2000 pages, also QRH and Training Manual Boeing 707 + QRH Boeing 717-200 5 Manuals (FMS, Performances, System Description, Operating Procedure and QRH) Boeing 727 + QRH Boeing 737-200 + QRH Boeing 737-300 -400 -500 + QRH Boeing 737BBJ (Boeing Bussiness Jet) + QRH Boeing 737NG (-600 -700 -800 -900) + QRH Boeing 747-200 + QRH Boeing 747-400 + QRH Boeing 757-200PW + QRH Boeing 757-200RR + QRH Boeing 767-300PW + QRH <---- All in the same file Boeing 767-300RR + QRH <---- All in the same file Boeing 777-200 -200ER -300 -300ER + QRH <---- All in the same file Boeing MD-10 4 Manuals (FMS, System Description, Operating Procedure and QRH) Boeing MD-11 4 Manuals (FMS, System Description, Operating Procedure and QRH) Boeing MD-80 4 Manuals (FMS, System Description, Operating Procedure and QRH) Boeing MD-90 4 Manuals (FMS, System Description, Operating Procedure and QRH) (All this Manuals are from Boeing) A-10 1st Chapter Aero L-39 AH-64 Apache BF-109 and Assambly Manual CH-47 Chinook F-18A/B/C/D/E/F Hornet and Super Hornets NATOPS FW-190 Hawker Hurricane Il-2 Sturmovick Il-28 Beagle il-76 Ju-87 Stuka Mig-21PF; Mig-21UM Mig-23UB Mig-29UT; Mig-29UM Mosquito OH-58 Kiowa P-38 Lightning P-39 Airacobra P-40 Warhawk P-51 Mustang III S-3 Viking Weapon and Electronic Systems Supermarine Spitfire T-34C Turbo Mentor Tu-154B Hawker Typhoon UH-60 Black Hawk SR-71 Blackbird ATR-42 Mirage 2000C Su-27 Flanker Bell 412 An-2 An-26 RaVeN P.S: Excuse my english P.S: Send me an email for contact with me Back to top Jeroen Wenting Guest Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 11:16 am    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Back to top billwg Guest Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote Quote: Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. Back to top Charlie Wolf Guest Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 8:50 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: Quote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Quote: Back to top Dave in San Diego Guest Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:07 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8efvm1p9g5e25ssfvno6gjj2ukddnjhss9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Quote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Read all about it here: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17.html Dave in San Diego Back to top Dave in San Diego Guest Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 9:15 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8efvm1p9g5e25ssfvno6gjj2ukddnjhss9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Quote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Also note: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sec_17_ 00000105----000-.html TITLE 17 > CHAPTER 1 > § 105 § 105. Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise. Back to top Charlie Wolf Guest Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 2:23 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:07:33 GMT, Dave in San Diego <dragnd (AT) nospamcox (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8efvm1p9g5e25ssfvno6gjj2ukddnjhss9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Read all about it here: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17.html My point is - we are talking about 2 different subjects here. The portion of USC you cited is unrelated to DoD regulations concerning classified material --- and before you say it, FOUO IS a valid classification of DoD documents. It's right above UNCLAS. Regards, Quote: Dave in San Diego Back to top Dave in San Diego Guest Posted: Tue Nov 08, 2005 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:n2d1n1t393a1unhhpbp5vjidr1ftoqt0b5 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: Quote: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 21:07:33 GMT, Dave in San Diego [email]dragnd (AT) nospamcox (DOT) net[/email]> wrote: Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8efvm1p9g5e25ssfvno6gjj2ukddnjhss9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Read all about it here: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17.html My point is - we are talking about 2 different subjects here. The portion of USC you cited is unrelated to DoD regulations concerning classified material --- and before you say it, FOUO IS a valid classification of DoD documents. It's right above UNCLAS. Regards, You are absolutely correct, we are talking about two things here, and FOUO is a valid classification. My intent was to provide some correct info to Jeroen Wenting and billwg regarding the copyright law so they might be better informed the next time they want to inject that into a discussion. Sorry if I caused any further confusion. Back to top billwg Guest Posted: Thu Nov 10, 2005 9:32 pm    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals "Dave in San Diego" <dragnd (AT) nospamcox (DOT) net> wrote Quote: Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8efvm1p9g5e25ssfvno6gjj2ukddnjhss9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Read all about it here: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17.html Exactly: (a) Criminal Infringement.- Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either- (1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or (2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000, Back to top Dave in San Diego Guest Posted: Fri Nov 11, 2005 5:34 am    Post subject: Re: e-Flight Manuals "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote in news:S%Ocf.1326$Xx4.202 @tornado.tampabay.rr.com: Quote: "Dave in San Diego" <dragnd (AT) nospamcox (DOT) net> wrote in message news:Xns970785ACDC9D4dragndnospamcoxnet (AT) 70 (DOT) 168.83.30... Charlie Wolf <charlie_wolf (AT) noemail (DOT) com> wrote in news:8efvm1p9g5e25ssfvno6gjj2ukddnjhss9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com: On Mon, 07 Nov 2005 20:09:46 GMT, "billwg" <billw (AT) twcf (DOT) rr.com> wrote: "Jeroen Wenting" <jwenting at hornet dot demon dot nl> wrote in message news:11mrpkn3f8mvs9d (AT) corp (DOT) supernews.com... Sorry, but sharing copyrighted information is a criminal offense. Nonsense. Copyright violations are not criminal unless they are done for financial gain or exceed personal copying of more than $1000 worth of material in any 180 period. No one in the history of the country has been prosecuted for non-commercial copying. While that irks the RIAA, it is still a fact of life. I've never heard that "loose" an interpretation of the copyright laws, however.... many of manuals he's after (military) are For Official Use Only (FOUO) and aren't for general dissemenation to anyone asking for them on the internet. Regards, Read all about it here: http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode17/usc_sup_01_17.html Exactly: (a) Criminal Infringement.- Any person who infringes a copyright willfully either- (1) for purposes of commercial advantage or private financial gain, or (2) by the reproduction or distribution, including by electronic means, during any 180-day period, of 1 or more copies or phonorecords of 1 or more copyrighted works, which have a total retail value of more than $1,000, My point, which I failed to make obvious, was that it's not copyrighted material anyway. TITLE 17, CHAPTER 1 § 105. Subject matter of copyright: United States Government works Copyright protection under this title is not available for any work of the United States Government, but the United States Government is not precluded from receiving and holding copyrights transferred to it by assignment, bequest, or otherwise. 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