AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Drop Outs          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviation (Students) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message C. Paul Williams, MD Guest Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:06 pm    Post subject: Drop Outs Do any of the CFIs out there have an estimate of the number or percentage of student pilots that never finish and drop out of flight school? How many students actually go on to finish and get their PP-ASEL or equivalent? Just curious. CPW Back to top Darkwing Duck (The Duck, Guest Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs "C. Paul Williams, MD" <cpw (AT) traverse (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Do any of the CFIs out there have an estimate of the number or percentage of student pilots that never finish and drop out of flight school? How many students actually go on to finish and get their PP-ASEL or equivalent? Just curious. CPW Hey! I didn't drop out, I mearly postponed for about 3 years! But I did get it. But seriously, I wouldn't be surprised if it was close to half. Seems a lot of people start, stop, go some more, stop and eventually get it. I went to two schools 4 instructors and total time of over a year. I started my IFR over a year ago and haven't done a lesson for over 4 months for IFR. Just how it goes with work. Back to top Randy Wentzel Guest Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 10:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs C. Paul Williams, MD wrote: Quote: Do any of the CFIs out there have an estimate of the number or percentage of student pilots that never finish and drop out of flight school? How many students actually go on to finish and get their PP-ASEL or equivalent? Just curious. CPW I asked my instructor this shortly before I picked up my ticket, and said that in the 20+ years that he had been a CFI, he estimated a 80% - 90% dropout rate. He said that many/most achieved solo status and then just lost the drive. "Wow, I can fly an airplane by myself!" I guess just knowing that is enough for some people. I personally felt like my instructor was very motivated to have me complete the course too! Not a slacker by any stretch of the imagination. Best, Back to top Barry Guest Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs Quote: Do any of the CFIs out there have an estimate of the number or percentage of student pilots that never finish and drop out of flight school? How many students actually go on to finish and get their PP-ASEL or equivalent? A few years ago I read that the national average was only about 1/3 of those who start get their private, and only about 1/5 make it to 100 hours. I can't vouch for the accuracy of this, but based on my experience as a CFI it sounds reasonable. Back to top C J Campbell Guest Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs Most of them drop out for one reason or another. The top reasons are school, job change, family moving, etc. Many of them come back, possibly a year or more later. Back to top MichaelR Guest Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 12:14 am    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs About half of the private students I've seen drop out. On the other hand, almost all of the recreational students I've had or known have earned their certificates. They got their certificates in a little over 30 hours, which is fewer hours than many of the private drop-outs had when they quit. "C. Paul Williams, MD" <cpw (AT) traverse (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Do any of the CFIs out there have an estimate of the number or percentage of student pilots that never finish and drop out of flight school? How many students actually go on to finish and get their PP-ASEL or equivalent? Just curious. CPW Back to top Max T, CFI Guest Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs One long time instructor where I teach said that only 1/2 the people make it to solo, and of those only half make it to private (25% of all that started). My numbers over the last couple years have been much better, though last year I saw a high number of people who inquired about starting but never actually did. Speculation among other instructors is that the economy is still not that great here in Silicon Valley. Max T. C. Paul Williams, MD <cpw (AT) traverse (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Do any of the CFIs out there have an estimate of the number or percentage of student pilots that never finish and drop out of flight school? How many students actually go on to finish and get their PP-ASEL or equivalent? Just curious. CPW Back to top NW_PILOT Guest Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Drop Outs Here is the way my instruction went 13 year old discovery flight got me hooked 15 years old did about 5 hours of lessons mowed tiedown spots for flight instruction time could not afford it turned 16 started driving for got about flying went on with my life lost log book. Feb. 2002 I was able to afford it well I thought I was I did 6.2 hours of instruction logged it this time did not lose log book. June ,1 2003 Started Flight Instruction got sick and had a collapsed lung blown lower lobe was out sick all summer long was a bummer Restarted my flight lessons Sept. 27, first solo10-22-03, PPASEL 12-14-03, "C J Campbell" <christophercampbellNOSPAM (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote Quote: Most of them drop out for one reason or another. The top reasons are school, job change, family moving, etc. Many of them come back, possibly a year or more later. 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