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Doug LS4
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 Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: Currency requirements for commercial glider pilot |
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Recent discussions at my small club have centered around the cuurency
requirements for commercial glider pilots. My understanding is that a
pilot may not carry passengers unless they have had three take offs and
landings within the previous ninety days in an aircraft of the same
category, class and type if a type rating is required. So, working
backwards, I'm not aware of any type ratings associated with gliders.
The same is true, as I understand it, of class. That leaves only
category.
So, I believe that if a pilot has three takeoff and landings in any
glider in the past ninety days then that pilot is current to carry
passengers. I'm not aware of any differences in currency requirements
for private pilots versus commercial pilots.
Some club members, more experienced than I, contend that commercial
pilots must have three take offs and landings in the specific model (in
our case, G103) to be used for the ride.
What sayeth RAS ?
I'm not afraid to be wrong, it's happened before! If I am wrong, what
are the CFR's that point out the errors of my ways?
thanks,
Doug |
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BTIZ
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: Re: Currency requirements for commercial glider pilot |
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Currency for Commercial rated pilots is the same as Private rated. May not
carry passengers without 3 take off and landings in the last 90 days.
61.57 (a) )1) General Experience, 3 take offs and 3 landings in the last 90
calendar days.
61.57(a)(1)(i) Was the sole manipulator of the controls
61.57(a)(1)(ii) Same Category, Class and Type.
Definitions for Category and Class refer in FAR1.1
Category is Airplane, Glider, Rotorcraft, Lighter than Air, etc.
Class would be Single Engine, Multi Engine, Balloon, Glider, etc/
Gliders do not have "Type"
So, 3 landings in the last 90 days in a "airplane" does not qualify for the
3 landings in a glider in the last 90 days. Still need to do that.
Limits to 3 landings (and takeoffs) in the last 90 days are the same for ANY
PILOT, unless they meet any of the exceptions listed in 61.57(e).
"Doug LS4" <themsnyders (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Recent discussions at my small club have centered around the cuurency
requirements for commercial glider pilots. My understanding is that a
pilot may not carry passengers unless they have had three take offs and
landings within the previous ninety days in an aircraft of the same
category, class and type if a type rating is required. So, working
backwards, I'm not aware of any type ratings associated with gliders.
The same is true, as I understand it, of class. That leaves only
category.
So, I believe that if a pilot has three takeoff and landings in any
glider in the past ninety days then that pilot is current to carry
passengers. I'm not aware of any differences in currency requirements
for private pilots versus commercial pilots.
Some club members, more experienced than I, contend that commercial
pilots must have three take offs and landings in the specific model (in
our case, G103) to be used for the ride.
What sayeth RAS ?
I'm not afraid to be wrong, it's happened before! If I am wrong, what
are the CFR's that point out the errors of my ways?
thanks,
Doug
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kirk.stant
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:27 pm Post subject: Re: Currency requirements for commercial glider pilot |
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| Quote: | Some club members, more experienced than I, contend that commercial
pilots must have three take offs and landings in the specific model (in
our case, G103) to be used for the ride.
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FAR-wise, they are mistaken. Any glider will do (hmm, does that
include the space shuttle? - or any motorglider?).
Common sense-wise, not a bad idea if going from a 2-22 to an ASH-25, or
vice versa! As well as doing them from the same seat the rides will be
given from.
But this is RAS, so common sense is often the first casualty of
conversation....
Kirk
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BTIZ
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject: Re: Currency requirements for commercial glider pilot |
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I can see where an insurance company may require a more stringent currency
requirement to specify Make and Model if the club maintains commercial
insurance for giving rides to the general public and accepting a fee.
Insurance companies often have higher requirements than the FARs.
B
"kirk.stant" <kirk.stant (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Some club members, more experienced than I, contend that commercial
pilots must have three take offs and landings in the specific model (in
our case, G103) to be used for the ride.
FAR-wise, they are mistaken. Any glider will do (hmm, does that
include the space shuttle? - or any motorglider?).
Common sense-wise, not a bad idea if going from a 2-22 to an ASH-25, or
vice versa! As well as doing them from the same seat the rides will be
given from.
But this is RAS, so common sense is often the first casualty of
conversation....
Kirk
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Bruce Greef
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| Posted: Sun Aug 13, 2006 11:10 pm Post subject: Re: Currency requirements for commercial glider pilot |
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kirk.stant wrote:
| Quote: | Some club members, more experienced than I, contend that commercial
pilots must have three take offs and landings in the specific model (in
our case, G103) to be used for the ride.
FAR-wise, they are mistaken. Any glider will do (hmm, does that
include the space shuttle? - or any motorglider?).
Common sense-wise, not a bad idea if going from a 2-22 to an ASH-25, or
vice versa! As well as doing them from the same seat the rides will be
given from.
But this is RAS, so common sense is often the first casualty of
conversation....
Kirk
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Hey Kirk the advise is worth every cent you pay for it... |
just filter. You know:
</Rant> - No logic, often personal, seldom worth the electron's effort.
</Bias> - Only one option/view presented,or considered no possibility of
expanding the viewpoint although I have seen some epic attempts.
</Consultant> - advising authoritatively on something he has no experience of...
</Troll> - just seeing who they can arouse.
Funny part is some of the posters who trigger the filters all the time persist
in the face of great adversity - I suppose it is like having friends for them.
Conversely there is a lot of real wisdom offered here - pretty similar to the
airfield really.
Cheers
Bruce
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| Posted: Mon Aug 14, 2006 6:02 am Post subject: Re: Currency requirements for commercial glider pilot |
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Really now. It takes buckets of currency to be a glider pilot.
Possibly less for commercial pilots if they put up with pukers
in the front seat instead of flying nice sleek things.
What a silly question. Even for RAS.
Doug LS4 wrote:
| Quote: | Recent discussions at my small club have centered around the cuurency
requirements for commercial glider pilots.
... I'm not aware of any differences in currency requirements
for private pilots versus commercial pilots. |
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