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Joe Curry
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 Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:28 am Post subject: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
The popularity of public transport - which was today attributed to a
publicity blitz by airport operator BAA - means that around one
fifth of all fliers travel to and from the terminal by bus, way
ahead of most other British airports.
By the end of the decade - assuming all plans get the go-ahead -
Edinburgh Airport will be served by the bus service, a tram line and
a £500 million rail link.
But the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link is likely to win nearly all its
funding from the Scottish Executive and is almost certain to be up
and running by 2011.
http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=2142612005
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Lee Kindness
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 11:40 am Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Joe Curry <fox1 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) edinburghairport.org.uk> writes:
| Quote: | Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
The popularity of public transport - which was today attributed to a
publicity blitz by airport operator BAA - means that around one
fifth of all fliers travel to and from the terminal by bus, way
ahead of most other British airports.
By the end of the decade - assuming all plans get the go-ahead -
Edinburgh Airport will be served by the bus service, a tram line and
a £500 million rail link.
But the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link is likely to win nearly all its
funding from the Scottish Executive and is almost certain to be up
and running by 2011.
http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=2142612005
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The rise in use of the Airlink bus is probably more properly
attributed to the utter shambles of taxis at Edinburgh Airport.
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Jon Simpson
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:08 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Lee Kindness wrote:
| Quote: | Joe Curry <fox1 (AT) NOSPAM (DOT) edinburghairport.org.uk> writes:
Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
The popularity of public transport - which was today attributed to a
publicity blitz by airport operator BAA - means that around one
fifth of all fliers travel to and from the terminal by bus, way
ahead of most other British airports.
By the end of the decade - assuming all plans get the go-ahead -
Edinburgh Airport will be served by the bus service, a tram line and
a £500 million rail link.
But the Edinburgh Airport Rail Link is likely to win nearly all its
funding from the Scottish Executive and is almost certain to be up
and running by 2011.
http://news.scotsman.com/archive.cfm?id=2142612005
The rise in use of the Airlink bus is probably more properly
attributed to the utter shambles of taxis at Edinburgh Airport.
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Do they not all get off at RBS now?
JRS
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Joe Curry
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 1:15 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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The message <ydh7jc1rfjh.fsf (AT) kelvin (DOT) csl.co.uk>
from Lee Kindness <lkind (AT) csl (DOT) co.uk> contains these words:
| Quote: | The rise in use of the Airlink bus is probably more properly
attributed to the utter shambles of taxis at Edinburgh Airport.
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Took the words right out of my mouth Lee.!
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Gavin Coates
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:03 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Joe Curry wrote:
| Quote: | Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
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Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
What the author fails to realise is that the buses only bring traffic
from he city centre to the airport. The rail link will bring passengers
from Fife, Glasgow and possibly even newcastle to the airport.
Construction of such a rail link will bring even more traffic off the
road and increase the % using public traffic even further.
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Gavin Coates
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:05 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Gavin Coates wrote:
| Quote: | Joe Curry wrote:
Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
What the author fails to realise is that the buses only bring traffic
from he city centre to the airport. The rail link will bring passengers
from Fife, Glasgow and possibly even newcastle to the airport.
Construction of such a rail link will bring even more traffic off the
road and increase the % using public traffic even further.
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oops, article was about the tram link, not rail link, so ignore the last
paragraph, and substitute "rail" for "tram" in the rest of the post :P
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BBB
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 5:16 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Gavin Coates wrote:
| Quote: | Joe Curry wrote:
Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
What the author fails to realise is that the buses only bring traffic
from he city centre to the airport. The rail link will bring passengers
from Fife, Glasgow and possibly even newcastle to the airport.
Construction of such a rail link will bring even more traffic off the
road and increase the % using public traffic even further.
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The Fly Local Support The Local Economy advocate 7 miles west of EDI
will of course scoff at such a ludicrous suggestion..
B
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Joe Curry
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| Posted: Tue Oct 25, 2005 6:49 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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The message <435e6558$0$73626$ed2619ec (AT) ptn-nntp-reader03 (DOT) plus.net>
from Gavin Coates <webmaster (AT) SPAMtaxiwayalpha (DOT) com> contains these words:
| Quote: | Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
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Pure logic.... :-)
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Callum Johnstone
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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"BBB" <blimpie (AT) btopenworld (DOT) com> wrote
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Gavin Coates wrote:
Joe Curry wrote:
Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
What the author fails to realise is that the buses only bring traffic
from he city centre to the airport. The rail link will bring passengers
from Fife, Glasgow and possibly even newcastle to the airport.
Construction of such a rail link will bring even more traffic off the
road and increase the % using public traffic even further.
The Fly Local Support The Local Economy advocate 7 miles west of EDI
will of course scoff at such a ludicrous suggestion..
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A good job that Fife, West Lothian, Central Scotland etc. are all EDI's
"local" area then :-)
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Callum Johnstone
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 7:17 am Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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"Gavin Coates" <webmaster (AT) SPAMtaxiwayalpha (DOT) com> wrote
| Quote: | Gavin Coates wrote:
Joe Curry wrote:
Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
What the author fails to realise is that the buses only bring traffic
from he city centre to the airport. The rail link will bring passengers
from Fife, Glasgow and possibly even newcastle to the airport.
Construction of such a rail link will bring even more traffic off the
road and increase the % using public traffic even further.
oops, article was about the tram link, not rail link, so ignore the last
paragraph, and substitute "rail" for "tram" in the rest of the post 
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Quite right, Gavin.
I think we should be looking more at how "crammed" the roads are in the
vicinity of the airport, and instead of suggesting nothing more needs to be
done on the public transport side of things we need to start widening access
to public transport options for more people. The city centre shuttle bus
cannot possibly cater to everyone .... the real test of public transport
success will be if and when it manages to make a big dent in the number of
locals travelling to the airport by car, and the tram and rail link should
hopefully achieve that where the bus cannot. I suspect a big percentage of
pax using the city centre shuttle bus will be inbound leisure pax. We need
to ask what more can be done to get Scots travelling to the airport out of
their cars and onto public transport.
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admin
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:21 am Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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The message <I0G7f.952$Ih5.625 (AT) fe1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> contains
these words:
| Quote: | A good job that Fife, West Lothian, Central Scotland etc. are all EDI's
"local" area then 
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Plus Tayside, Northumberland and North/South on the ECML. :-)
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admin
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:24 am Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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The message <F4G7f.988$Ih5.500 (AT) fe1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk>
from "Callum Johnstone" <callumjohnstone (AT) blueyonder (DOT) co.uk> contains
these words:
| Quote: | vicinity of the airport, and instead of suggesting nothing more needs to be
done on the public transport side of things we need to start widening
access
to public transport options for more people. The city centre shuttle bus
cannot possibly cater to everyone .... the real test of public transport
success will be if and when it manages to make a big dent in the number of
locals travelling to the airport by car, and the tram and rail link should
hopefully achieve that where the bus cannot. I suspect a big percentage of
pax using the city centre shuttle bus will be inbound leisure pax.
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Good post.. I agree entirely...
| Quote: | We need
to ask what more can be done to get Scots travelling to the airport out of
their cars and onto public transport.
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A bus station within the airport will solve most access problems and
take cars off the road.
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GKirk
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 1:37 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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admin wrote:
| Quote: | The message <I0G7f.952$Ih5.625 (AT) fe1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk
from "Callum Johnstone"
these words:
A good job that Fife, West Lothian, Central Scotland etc. are all EDI's
"local" area then :-)
Plus Tayside, Northumberland and North/South on the ECML. :-)
Northumberland is NCL area. Fly local? |
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BBB
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:08 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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GKirk wrote:
| Quote: | admin wrote:
The message <I0G7f.952$Ih5.625 (AT) fe1 (DOT) news.blueyonder.co.uk
from "Callum Johnstone"
these words:
A good job that Fife, West Lothian, Central Scotland etc. are all EDI's
"local" area then :-)
Plus Tayside, Northumberland and North/South on the ECML. :-)
Northumberland is NCL area. Fly local?
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Unless you're the JC troll ;-)
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Kevin Bates
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| Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 5:44 pm Post subject: Re: Crammed buses 'show airport tram not needed' |
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Gavin Coates wrote:
| Quote: | Joe Curry wrote:
Source: www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com
ALAN RODEN
TRANSPORT REPORTER
General thrust:
New figures show a 22 per cent rise in the number of people using
Lothian Buses' Airlink service - well above the airport's 5.9 per
cent growth in passenger traffic.
Surely the opposite is true? the increased use of bus shows how much a
rail link is needed. At the current rate of growth the roads will be
choked by shuttle buses going to-from the airport. Time to get the rail
link built and get the buses off the road!
What the author fails to realise is that the buses only bring traffic
from he city centre to the airport. The rail link will bring passengers
from Fife, Glasgow and possibly even newcastle to the airport.
Construction of such a rail link will bring even more traffic off the
road and increase the % using public traffic even further.
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There is a bus to the airport every 8 minutes during the day. If the
buses are replaced by trams on the city centre - airport run those trams
will be full of people who formally used the bus. Very few cars will be
taken off the road. Wether people will use a train link for longer
journies is debatable. I cannot see people in the middle of
Northumberland taking thier car to Newcastle to catch a train to
Edinburgh Airport.
Maybe we should invest in more buses!!
Kevin
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