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 Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: Avionics Build It Yourself Manuals |
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Robert Bonomi
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| Posted: Sat Apr 29, 2006 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: Avionics Build It Yourself Manuals |
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In article <76e48$44506798$4251292e$31016 (AT) DIALUPUSA (DOT) NET>,
RST Engineering <jim (AT) rstengineering (DOT) com> wrote:
| Quote: | So for 35 years now we've been putting out our kits with two printed manuals
per kit ... a
"operations and maintenance" and a "construction and assembly" manual. Each
of which costs us about $2 a manual. Not a big deal.
I've got a wild hair that we can put out a digital CDROM set of manuals that
will give COLOR pictures, video "how to", and a lot of other stuff on the
CDROM.
The other person in the company says that you all want print manuals.
Please vote:
1. I want a print (paper) set of manuals with my kit.
2. I want a CDROM with my kit that I can print out myself.
3. I want you to increase the cost of the kit by $5 and include both print
and CDROM with every kit.
Please, no other permutations. Print or CDROM. No other choices.
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Comments:
1) Given the kind of printers that _most_ people have at home -- i.e.,
'inkjet' (color or B&W) -- you can print the manual MUCH LESS EXPENSIVELY
than they can, including decent cover and bindery costs.
2) typical 'home' computer printers are *expensive* to operate -- most
users do not recognize _how_expensive_ it is, but it comes out in the
5-10 cents per single-sided page range.
3) A print manual offers several kinds of flexibility that a digital one
does not -- or at least not to the same degree. It's much easier to
take a print manual to the 'reading room', just to cite one example.
Also, it's a lot easier to use a print version at the workbench, vs.
the digital one. `
4) Yes, you can create a 'sort-of equivalent' print version from the CD,
but only 'sort of' -- getting the home-produced loose pages 'bound'
into booklet form is non-trivial.
5) CDs are great for medium-term 'archival' storage -- you can get an
awful lot of stuff in a fairly small amount of physical space. *BUT*,
they take a bunch of 'additional stuff' to be useful, while paper
manuals are 'stand alone'.
6) The technology _does_ change out from under you; 15 years ago, the
standard home computer storage was a 5-1/4" floppy. How many folks
could read something on that media, _today_? DVDs are eclipsing CDROM,
today. In 10-15 years, I wouldn't be surprised to find that most
machines have only 'son-of-DVD/DVD' devices, _without_ support for those
'obsolete', 'low-capacity' things known as CDROMs.
7) it is obviously less expensive for you to produce CDs than print manuals.
However, the _total_ cost TO THE CUSTOMER is less for a print copy if
you do the printing. And he gets a better grade of product -- e.g., a
bound booklet, vs pile of loose pages.
_I_ would mutter, gripe, and bitch&moan, if manuals were offered *only* on
CD.
I would be willing to _pay_extra_, to get the CD, *in*addition*to* the
printed manual.
I would prefer to have it as an 'option', rather than always bundled. However
if that is not viable, then I'd settle for 'both, always'.
I probably don't need to mention it, but be sure that any technical drawings
are done as 'line art' (i.e. 'vector' graphics), and not embedded bit-map
images (e.g. .GIF, .JPG, etc.). People -will- want to zoom in on those
drawings to a 'ridiculous' degree, and bit-maps go 'fuzzy' really quickly. |
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Tony Goetz
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 2:47 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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Montblack wrote...
| Quote: | Anyone out there with a PROVEN jet engine, with a fuel burn under
(Spectrum's per engine average)27 gph, that puts out 800-1,200
pound-thrust,
and weighs under 200 lbs?
15-20 gph* would be nice.
(* For 2 to 4 hour trips at 35,000-45,000 feet. Shorter trips will burn
more)
Otherwise: Williams FJ33-4A [1,568 pound-thrust] @ 290 lbs it is.
I feel so much like the Eclipse team, right now, it's scary! 
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The Aviation Week SourceBook has a nice big run down of gas turbine engines
and manufacturers (along with everything else aerospace). I managed to
download the 2005 turbine section several months ago, but I can't find the
link anymore (I think it was direct from AviationNow.com). In any case, I
saved it and have uploaded it if you want to browse. There are quite a few
engines in the range you're looking at, mostly intended for drones.
http://www.togo84.com/spec05_gas_turbines.pdf
So... when does construction begin?
-Tony Goetz |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:10 am Post subject: Re: cheap homebuilt rocket belt that flew |
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Yep - a definite LOL. The "Pilot" did not look happy when he got back
to the dock. OTOH, he could have been far worse off.
David Johnson |
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Larry
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 3:21 am Post subject: Re: Andreasson BA-4B plans |
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I believe Norway and Sweden EAA builders have his plans. Some are being
built there. None in the USA so far as I know. There are some of BA's
MFI-9s in the States.
Larry
granaino wrote:
| Quote: | Hello: I'm an Spanish builder. I'm very interested in the Andreasson
BA-4B all metal plans. Does anyone know if there is a source for these
plans?
Thank you.
Angel.
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Morgans
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:31 am Post subject: Re: cheap homebuilt rocket belt that flew |
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<nf6f (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1146352205.268474.56430 (AT) j73g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Yep - a definite LOL. The "Pilot" did not look happy when he got back
to the dock. OTOH, he could have been far worse off.
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Shoot, he was 40 feet, or more, off the water when he ran out of thrust.
That alone would hurt. Add to that, it sure did look like he was
experiencing some "unusual attitudes" as he was on the way back down.
It was funny, that's for sure. They do some wicked mean things to people on
that show. There would be multiple law suites here.
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Jim in NC |
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Kyle Boatright
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 5:57 am Post subject: Re: cheap homebuilt rocket belt that flew |
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"Morgans" <jessmorgan (AT) cJhUaNrKter (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:WrU4g.143$SQ1.88 (AT) fe02 (DOT) lga...
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nf6f (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1146352205.268474.56430 (AT) j73g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Yep - a definite LOL. The "Pilot" did not look happy when he got back
to the dock. OTOH, he could have been far worse off.
Shoot, he was 40 feet, or more, off the water when he ran out of thrust.
That alone would hurt. Add to that, it sure did look like he was
experiencing some "unusual attitudes" as he was on the way back down.
It was funny, that's for sure. They do some wicked mean things to people
on that show. There would be multiple law suites here.
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Jim in NC
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I'm not sure they didn't hoist him with a crane or something. The thrust
angles and the poor SOB's gyrations didn't appear to be exactly in phase.
Maybe I'm just a skeptic.
KB |
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Jack Allison
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:11 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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Tony Goetz wrote:
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So... when does construction begin?
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And when are you taking orders? Need a test pilot? What about a web
master? :-)
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Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T
"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci
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Jack Allison
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:12 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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Robert Bonomi wrote:
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B) install only a pilot that is equipped with a large supply (self-contained)
of 'hot air'.
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No no...not the pilot, the OP! Plenty of overly warm, dare I say hot?
Why yes, hot indeed...air. :-)
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Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T
"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci
(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:35 am Post subject: Re: cheap homebuilt rocket belt that flew |
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that was fake!!
Kyle Boatright wrote:
| Quote: | "Morgans" <jessmorgan (AT) cJhUaNrKter (DOT) net> wrote in message
news:WrU4g.143$SQ1.88 (AT) fe02 (DOT) lga...
nf6f (AT) home (DOT) com> wrote in message
news:1146352205.268474.56430 (AT) j73g2000cwa (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Yep - a definite LOL. The "Pilot" did not look happy when he got back
to the dock. OTOH, he could have been far worse off.
Shoot, he was 40 feet, or more, off the water when he ran out of thrust.
That alone would hurt. Add to that, it sure did look like he was
experiencing some "unusual attitudes" as he was on the way back down.
It was funny, that's for sure. They do some wicked mean things to people
on that show. There would be multiple law suites here.
--
Jim in NC
I'm not sure they didn't hoist him with a crane or something. The thrust
angles and the poor SOB's gyrations didn't appear to be exactly in phase.
Maybe I'm just a skeptic.
KB
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Montblack
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:48 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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("Jack Allison" wrote)
| Quote: | And when are you taking orders?
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As soon as I figure out how much a 2006 dollar will be worth at some
unspecified time in the future. :-)
| Quote: | Need a test pilot?
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With a GOOD programmer, we should be able to fly off our hours in a sim. No?
| Quote: | What about a web master?
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Yes. Also, a pavilion tent at OSH. The web can direct interested parties to
the OSH display, while the OSH display will direct people to check out our
website for future updates.
Montblack |
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Montblack
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 6:56 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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("Jack Allison" wrote)
| Quote: | No no...not the pilot, the OP! Plenty of overly warm, dare I say hot?
Why yes, hot indeed...air.
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With a ceiling of 45,000 ft ...no [ride ABOVE the] soup for you! <g>
Team MonJet |
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Montblack
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:17 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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(Tony Goetz wrote)
| Quote: | The Aviation Week SourceBook has a nice big run down of gas turbine
engines and manufacturers (along with everything else aerospace). I
managed to download the 2005 turbine section several months ago, but I
can't find the link anymore (I think it was direct from AviationNow.com).
In any case, I saved it and have uploaded it if you want to browse. There
are quite a few engines in the range you're looking at, mostly intended
for drones.
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http://www.togo84.com/spec05_gas_turbines.pdf
Very cool. Thanks.
Rainy day kind of link to root around in.
Rolls-Royce (Indianapolis, IN, USA)
Model # AE 1107C
MAX. POWER AT SEA LEVEL (LB.-THRUST/SHP.)
6,150 shp (Shaft horsepower)
SPECIFIC FUEL CONSUMPTIONAT MAX. POWER LB./LBF.-HR. or LB./HP.-HR.
0.41
Dry weight ....973 lbs
Bell Boeing V-22.
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Jack Allison
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 8:48 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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Montblack wrote:
| Quote: | With a ceiling of 45,000 ft ...no [ride ABOVE the] soup for you! <g
Team MonJet
Hey, wait...am I not a founding member and supporter of the MontBlack |
fan club? One (well, ok, maybe two...er...um...plus a few more) itty
bitty comments and I'm booted off the plane (before the plane is even
*on* the drawing board. Who died and left you CEO? :-)
Besides...flying in the soup, so long as it's not turbulent, no embedded
T-storms, no ice, is fun...in that twisted instrument flying sort of way.
Ok, ok, so I beg forgiveness and start out as your web master.
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Jack Allison
PP-ASEL-Instrument Airplane
Arrow N2104T
"When once you have tasted flight, you will forever walk the Earth
with your eyes turned skyward, for there you have been, and there
you will always long to return"
- Leonardo Da Vinci
(Remove the obvious from address to reply via e-mail) |
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Montblack
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| Posted: Sun Apr 30, 2006 9:17 am Post subject: Re: MontJet update |
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("Jack Allison" wrote)
| Quote: | Who died and left you CEO?
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Speaking of, I wonder if BRS makes Golden Parachutes?
http://www.brsparachutes.com/default.aspx
Located in South St Paul, MN ...at the airport.
"Team" MontJet |
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