AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airports          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> alt.airports View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message javawizard Guest Posted: Wed Jan 31, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airports People who live near big airports have as much as a 19% higher death rate. - from www.odd-info.com - Jeff www.unusualcoach.com Back to top Orval Fairbairn Guest Posted: Sun Feb 04, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor In article <1170221264.775387.275720 (AT) a34g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "javawizard" <javawizard (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: Quote: People who live near big airports have as much as a 19% higher death rate. - from www.odd-info.com - Jeff www.unusualcoach.com Is it due to noise -- or other factors, such as crime, smoking, etc.? Back to top Scott Dorsey Guest Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:09 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor Orval Fairbairn <orfairbairn (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: In article <1170221264.775387.275720 (AT) a34g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "javawizard" <javawizard (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: People who live near big airports have as much as a 19% higher death rate. - from www.odd-info.com Is it due to noise -- or other factors, such as crime, smoking, etc.? Well, because of the noise, rich people with good health care are less apt to live near airports, and lower-income people who may not have such good health care are more apt to live nearby. Of course, there is the occasional person killed by blue ice... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Back to top Orval Fairbairn Guest Posted: Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor In article <eqfshj$919$1 (AT) panix2 (DOT) panix.com>, kludge (AT) panix (DOT) com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Quote: Orval Fairbairn <orfairbairn (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: In article <1170221264.775387.275720 (AT) a34g2000cwb (DOT) googlegroups.com>, "javawizard" <javawizard (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote: People who live near big airports have as much as a 19% higher death rate. - from www.odd-info.com Is it due to noise -- or other factors, such as crime, smoking, etc.? Well, because of the noise, rich people with good health care are less apt to live near airports, and lower-income people who may not have such good health care are more apt to live nearby. Of course, there is the occasional person killed by blue ice... --scott Oh, so you think that "rich people" don't live around airports? Think again! see: http://sales@fly-in.com/ http://www.scpoa.com/ So, why don't those "lower income people" have such good health? Is it because of smoking, drugs, booze, or combinations of the above? Back to top Scott Dorsey Guest Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 2:05 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor Orval Fairbairn <orfairbairn (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: kludge (AT) panix (DOT) com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Oh, so you think that "rich people" don't live around airports? Think again! see: http://sales@fly-in.com/ http://www.scpoa.com/ This is neither a typical airport, nor are these people typical rich people. These people are living around the airport because they like living there, not because it's the only place they can afford to live. Quote: So, why don't those "lower income people" have such good health? Is it because of smoking, drugs, booze, or combinations of the above? No, rich people enjoy plenty of smoking, drugs, and booze also, but they can usually afford to pay for doctors as well. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Back to top Scott Dorsey Guest Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor Orval Fairbairn <orfairbairn (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: Quote: And -- just HOW does the airport "lower values" so the "poor" can reside there? Who said it did? If you were going to build an airport, would you build it in an area where land was _expensive_ or an area where land was _cheap_? Think hard, and remember that airports take a lot of land. Quote: Studies on the matter have shown inconclusive results, at best. What's your true agenda? Merely to point out the correlation. Not causation, just correlation. --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis." Back to top Orval Fairbairn Guest Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor In article <eri8mm$o22$1 (AT) panix2 (DOT) panix.com>, kludge (AT) panix (DOT) com (Scott Dorsey) smoked some dope, drank some cheap booze, wet his bed and dissembled: Quote: Orval Fairbairn <orfairbairn (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: kludge (AT) panix (DOT) com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Oh, so you think that "rich people" don't live around airports? Think again! see: http://sales@fly-in.com/ http://www.scpoa.com/ This is neither a typical airport, nor are these people typical rich people. These people are living around the airport because they like living there, not because it's the only place they can afford to live. So, why don't those "lower income people" have such good health? Is it because of smoking, drugs, booze, or combinations of the above? No, rich people enjoy plenty of smoking, drugs, and booze also, but they can usually afford to pay for doctors as well. --scott Ah yes! Another self-appointed "champion of the poor!" And -- just HOW does the airport "lower values" so the "poor" can reside there? Studies on the matter have shown inconclusive results, at best. What's your true agenda? Back to top Orval Fairbairn Guest Posted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: Re: An Interesting Problem Regarding the Noise Around Airpor In article <ero61m$9db$1 (AT) panix2 (DOT) panix.com>, kludge (AT) panix (DOT) com (Scott Dorsey) wrote: Quote: Orval Fairbairn <orfairbairn (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote: And -- just HOW does the airport "lower values" so the "poor" can reside there? Who said it did? If you were going to build an airport, would you build it in an area where land was _expensive_ or an area where land was _cheap_? Think hard, and remember that airports take a lot of land. Small airports don't take up a lot of land. Yes -- they were built where land was cheap, until the other seekers of cheap land surrounded them. The the greedy real estate developers get into the act and want that nice, flat, easily-buildable piece of property and start agitating the neighbors about noise, "safety," etc. It is only recently that they have become more brazen in telling local governments that the land is "valuable" as a housing or commercial development. Quote: Studies on the matter have shown inconclusive results, at best. What's your true agenda? Merely to point out the correlation. 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