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Oz Lander
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 Posted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: Airbourne again. |
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Had another flight today. Arrived 15 minutes early at the airfiled this
morning, as I was the first flight out, and the day was booked fairly
solid, so I wanted to get maximum air time.
Grabbed the keys, and opened the hangar, dragged out the Gazelle, and
did the pre-flight. She'd had her 100hourly this week, so I was
interested to see if I noticed anything different. Short answer to that
question was no.
The single screw that had been missing off the bottom of the cowling
had finally been replaced, and I was told that the left main tyre had a
puncture, which was now repaired. The only thing I noticed was that the
oil looked much cleaner. (Not that it looked all that dirty before.)
The sky was quite overcast, but the cloud was fairly high. There was
discussion about whether it would rain or not, (wooden prop issue
again!), and the decision was taken that it would be dry for long
enough. The forecast did not suggest rain, but the eyes suggested
different.
The wind was blowing from an unusual Westerly direction, putting it
more or less straight down runway 26. I'd not done any solo work from
26 to date, and it runs up-hill slightly, so I welcomed the
opportunity. Wind was about 8-10 knots. My instructor wanted to do 1
circuit with me to make sure the weather looked like behaving itself,
and to give me a running brief on the intricacies of landing on runway
26. (There is also a bit of a 'hill' in the middle of it!).
We did 1 circuit, and came in for a full stop. The air was quite
smooth, and I nailed the landing right where instructed, allowing for
the uphill aspect without trouble.
The instructor got out, and sent me on my way. Fuel was fairly low when
we first took off, with about 13 litres in each tank, so just over half
full. Enough for an hours flying, but not much more. She gave me the
option of doing a few circuits, or going out into the training area,
but as I'd not done any work on 26, I decided to do circuits.
As I taxiied back to 26, I realised I'd once again forgotten my
pre-landing checks, but as my instructor didn't pick me up on it
either, I didn't beat myself up over it. I did remember to do them on
every subsequent circuit, so I was happy.
I did make one other mistake today, and that was that for some supid
reason, I forgot completely about my base call, not realising until I
was about to turn onto finals. In my panic, I went to make a call
saying I was turning onto finals, but called base by mistake! Bit of a
brain fart there. Luckily, I was the only a/c in the circuit the whole
time.
2 mistakes is much better than last weeks effort, so I'm happy with how
I performed other than that.
I did a total of 7 solo circuits after dropping off the instructor, and
the wind seemed to increase with each one. The last 3 or 4 saw the
climb out get rather choppy from around 600ft to 1000ft, and the final
approach was also a bit hairy on the last 3 or so approaches, with
gusts trying to test my skills at keeping the wings level. There was
also a bit of downdraft as I came in over the (now dry) swamp area, but
my instructor had warned me about that.
I managed the wind and my landings well, in my opinion of course, and
landed where indicated to on each occaision, and again, as was
suggested, I managed to be back in the air again before reaching the
crossing runway, which has a bit of a rise to it, which can launch the
a/c somewhat if still in contact with the ground when taking off.
I mentioned the changing wind to the instructor when I got back, and
she checked the gauge. The winds had increased to about 15-20kts.
All in all, another good day. Only 1 runway I've never used now, so
looking forward to another unusual wind in the near future.
Total time now 15.9hrs (4.2 solo).
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Oz Lander.
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong. |
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chris
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:02 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On May 6, 4:07 pm, "Oz Lander" <h...@there.com.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | Had another flight today. Arrived 15 minutes early at the airfiled this
morning, as I was the first flight out, and the day was booked fairly
solid, so I wanted to get maximum air time.
Grabbed the keys, and opened the hangar, dragged out the Gazelle, and
did the pre-flight. She'd had her 100hourly this week, so I was
interested to see if I noticed anything different. Short answer to that
question was no.
The single screw that had been missing off the bottom of the cowling
had finally been replaced, and I was told that the left main tyre had a
puncture, which was now repaired. The only thing I noticed was that the
oil looked much cleaner. (Not that it looked all that dirty before.)
The sky was quite overcast, but the cloud was fairly high. There was
discussion about whether it would rain or not, (wooden prop issue
again!), and the decision was taken that it would be dry for long
enough. The forecast did not suggest rain, but the eyes suggested
different.
The wind was blowing from an unusual Westerly direction, putting it
more or less straight down runway 26. I'd not done any solo work from
26 to date, and it runs up-hill slightly, so I welcomed the
opportunity. Wind was about 8-10 knots. My instructor wanted to do 1
circuit with me to make sure the weather looked like behaving itself,
and to give me a running brief on the intricacies of landing on runway
26. (There is also a bit of a 'hill' in the middle of it!).
We did 1 circuit, and came in for a full stop. The air was quite
smooth, and I nailed the landing right where instructed, allowing for
the uphill aspect without trouble.
The instructor got out, and sent me on my way. Fuel was fairly low when
we first took off, with about 13 litres in each tank, so just over half
full. Enough for an hours flying, but not much more. She gave me the
option of doing a few circuits, or going out into the training area,
but as I'd not done any work on 26, I decided to do circuits.
As I taxiied back to 26, I realised I'd once again forgotten my
pre-landing checks, but as my instructor didn't pick me up on it
either, I didn't beat myself up over it. I did remember to do them on
every subsequent circuit, so I was happy.
I did make one other mistake today, and that was that for some supid
reason, I forgot completely about my base call, not realising until I
was about to turn onto finals. In my panic, I went to make a call
saying I was turning onto finals, but called base by mistake! Bit of a
brain fart there. Luckily, I was the only a/c in the circuit the whole
time.
2 mistakes is much better than last weeks effort, so I'm happy with how
I performed other than that.
I did a total of 7 solo circuits after dropping off the instructor, and
the wind seemed to increase with each one. The last 3 or 4 saw the
climb out get rather choppy from around 600ft to 1000ft, and the final
approach was also a bit hairy on the last 3 or so approaches, with
gusts trying to test my skills at keeping the wings level. There was
also a bit of downdraft as I came in over the (now dry) swamp area, but
my instructor had warned me about that.
I managed the wind and my landings well, in my opinion of course, and
landed where indicated to on each occaision, and again, as was
suggested, I managed to be back in the air again before reaching the
crossing runway, which has a bit of a rise to it, which can launch the
a/c somewhat if still in contact with the ground when taking off.
I mentioned the changing wind to the instructor when I got back, and
she checked the gauge. The winds had increased to about 15-20kts.
All in all, another good day. Only 1 runway I've never used now, so
looking forward to another unusual wind in the near future.
Total time now 15.9hrs (4.2 solo).
--
Oz Lander.
I'm not always right,
But I'm never wrong.
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Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion. I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
cya
chris |
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Mark Hansen
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On 05/07/07 14:02, chris wrote:
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Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion.
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It's unfortunate that you feel this way, Chris. People are going
to make mistakes, and talking through them with others who have
'been there and done that' can be a real help - not just to the
person who made the mistake, but to others that are listening
in.
| Quote: | I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
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I wouldn't want to "dwell" on mistakes either, but I think it's healthy
to identify them, understand why they happened and take corrective
action to see that they aren't made again.
Best Regards,
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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA |
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chris
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:02 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On May 8, 9:24 am, Mark Hansen <m...@NOSPAMwinfirst.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 05/07/07 14:02, chris wrote:
[ snip ]
Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion.
It's unfortunate that you feel this way, Chris. People are going
to make mistakes, and talking through them with others who have
'been there and done that' can be a real help - not just to the
person who made the mistake, but to others that are listening
in.
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It seems that when people admit mistakes on the internet certain
people launch into them about it, that's all.. It's bad enough with
regular posts!! Maybe I've just been spending too much time arguing
with mx???
| Quote: | I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
I wouldn't want to "dwell" on mistakes either, but I think it's healthy
to identify them, understand why they happened and take corrective
action to see that they aren't made again.
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This is true, just seems you need asbestos underwear to post here some
days!!!! |
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Euan Kilgour
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:06 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On May 6, 4:07 pm, "Oz Lander" <h...@there.com.ca> wrote:
| Quote: | Fuel was fairly low when
we first took off, with about 13 litres in each tank, so just over half
full. Enough for an hours flying, but not much more.
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Eeek thats not much gas. Oh thats right you are flying a Gazelle.
Tiny aircraft indeed. What sort of fuel endurance can you get out of
it? |
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Mark Hansen
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:15 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On 05/07/07 15:02, chris wrote:
| Quote: | On May 8, 9:24 am, Mark Hansen <m...@NOSPAMwinfirst.com> wrote:
On 05/07/07 14:02, chris wrote:
[ snip ]
Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion.
It's unfortunate that you feel this way, Chris. People are going
to make mistakes, and talking through them with others who have
'been there and done that' can be a real help - not just to the
person who made the mistake, but to others that are listening
in.
It seems that when people admit mistakes on the internet certain
people launch into them about it, that's all.. It's bad enough with
regular posts!! Maybe I've just been spending too much time arguing
with mx???
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Well, I think any time arguing with MX is too much ;-)
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I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
I wouldn't want to "dwell" on mistakes either, but I think it's healthy
to identify them, understand why they happened and take corrective
action to see that they aren't made again.
This is true, just seems you need asbestos underwear to post here some
days!!!!
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I understand. But don't give those few bad apples the power to reduce
the benefit you can gain from the majority of the great folks on these
lists. If someone is being unreasonable, just ignore them.
Best Regards,
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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA |
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Crash Lander
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 3:59 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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"Euan Kilgour" <av8bharrier2 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
news:1178575574.704421.225770 (AT) q75g2000hsh (DOT) googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | On May 6, 4:07 pm, "Oz Lander" <h...@there.com.ca> wrote:
Fuel was fairly low when
we first took off, with about 13 litres in each tank, so just over half
full. Enough for an hours flying, but not much more.
Eeek thats not much gas. Oh thats right you are flying a Gazelle.
Tiny aircraft indeed. What sort of fuel endurance can you get out of
it?
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I've been told the endurance is about 2 - 2.5 hours, plus reserves. If
memory serves correct, useable fuel is 46 litres, with a fuel burn of 14
Litres per hour.
Crash Lander |
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Crash Lander
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 4:02 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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"chris" <pa28_181 (AT) paradise (DOT) net.nz> wrote in message
news:1178571740.140326.247800 (AT) w5g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion. I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
cya
chris
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I post my mistakes, so that in the future, anyone who might be Googling
flying lessons might come across the same mistakes that they have made, and
will know they are not alone, or the only ones that made them.
I have developed calluses on my underwear from doing so, but I've given up
arguing with the people that caused them.
I think it's important to post true and accurate accounts of experiences.
Crash Lander |
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chris
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On May 8, 11:02 am, "Crash Lander" <h...@there.com.za> wrote:
| Quote: | "chris" <pa28_...@paradise.net.nz> wrote in message
news:1178571740.140326.247800 (AT) w5g2000hsg (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion. I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
cya
chris
I post my mistakes, so that in the future, anyone who might be Googling
flying lessons might come across the same mistakes that they have made, and
will know they are not alone, or the only ones that made them.
I have developed calluses on my underwear from doing so, but I've given up
arguing with the people that caused them.
I think it's important to post true and accurate accounts of experiences.
Crash Lander
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Good for you - I just found some of the conversations I have had
around various groups and some of the stuff I have seen tends to leave
quite a bitter taste in your mouth.. |
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chris
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| Posted: Tue May 08, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On May 8, 10:15 am, Mark Hansen <m...@NOSPAMwinfirst.com> wrote:
| Quote: | On 05/07/07 15:02, chris wrote:
On May 8, 9:24 am, Mark Hansen <m...@NOSPAMwinfirst.com> wrote:
On 05/07/07 14:02, chris wrote:
[ snip ]
Good one mate!
Always good to go flying aye...
I wouldn't admit my mistakes on the internet, some of the pricks on
here blow things way out of proportion.
It's unfortunate that you feel this way, Chris. People are going
to make mistakes, and talking through them with others who have
'been there and done that' can be a real help - not just to the
person who made the mistake, but to others that are listening
in.
It seems that when people admit mistakes on the internet certain
people launch into them about it, that's all.. It's bad enough with
regular posts!! Maybe I've just been spending too much time arguing
with mx???
Well, I think any time arguing with MX is too much 
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Yeah, have given up arguing with him. I often do a google groups
search for mx just to have a laugh at some of the stuff he's posting
in various places...
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I wouldn't dwell on any
mistakes anyway, instead just think about all the things you did
right!
I wouldn't want to "dwell" on mistakes either, but I think it's healthy
to identify them, understand why they happened and take corrective
action to see that they aren't made again.
This is true, just seems you need asbestos underwear to post here some
days!!!!
I understand. But don't give those few bad apples the power to reduce
the benefit you can gain from the majority of the great folks on these
lists. If someone is being unreasonable, just ignore them.
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I suppose.. Might just be my posts, but I tend to get either silence
or negative responses. Mind you, most of them have been from mx, so I
guess it probably isn't as bad as I imagine... |
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Crash Lander
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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"VH-UNR" <celsior.mcdaddy (AT) gmail (DOT) com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Thats why it's called Learning. Seems that you going really well Oz.
Keep it up. Nav's are coming up correct?
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No Sir. I will do a cross country endorsement later, which will obviously
cover Navs.
I'm not doing a full PPL. It's a Recreational Pilots License. (or licence!
I'm still confused as to which is which! LOL!)
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VH-UNR
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| Posted: Wed May 09, 2007 6:13 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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Thats why it's called Learning. Seems that you going really well Oz.
Keep it up. Nav's are coming up correct? |
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Euan Kilgour
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:12 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On May 9, 5:22 pm, "Crash Lander" <h...@there.com.za> wrote:
| Quote: | "VH-UNR" <celsior.mcda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178686473.299558.298110 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Thats why it's called Learning. Seems that you going really well Oz.
Keep it up. Nav's are coming up correct?
No Sir. I will do a cross country endorsement later, which will obviously
cover Navs.
I'm not doing a full PPL. It's a Recreational Pilots License. (or licence!
I'm still confused as to which is which! LOL!)
Oz Lander
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Cross country in a Gazelle sounds like a bit of a stretch if you only
have 2 hours endurance. 
Your diversion options would be quite limited to say the least. |
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Mark Hansen
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 2:49 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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On 05/09/07 14:12, Euan Kilgour wrote:
| Quote: | On May 9, 5:22 pm, "Crash Lander" <h...@there.com.za> wrote:
"VH-UNR" <celsior.mcda...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1178686473.299558.298110 (AT) o5g2000hsb (DOT) googlegroups.com...
Thats why it's called Learning. Seems that you going really well Oz.
Keep it up. Nav's are coming up correct?
No Sir. I will do a cross country endorsement later, which will obviously
cover Navs.
I'm not doing a full PPL. It's a Recreational Pilots License. (or licence!
I'm still confused as to which is which! LOL!)
Oz Lander
Cross country in a Gazelle sounds like a bit of a stretch if you only
have 2 hours endurance.
Your diversion options would be quite limited to say the least.
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Assuming that in this context, cross-country means more than just a
flight of 50NM or more...
Cross-country flights in ultralights are not unheard of. Remember that
in an emergency, you only need to get safely to the ground. There is no
requirement that you land at an airport. You plan your fuel stops based
on duration, winds, etc. - the same as any other flight.
I've never made such a flight myself, but my ultralight instructor has.
He flew from northern California down into Mexico and back.
I would love to be able to do that one day - not necessarily to Mexico,
but somewhere far, far away :-)
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Mark Hansen, PP-ASEL, Instrument Airplane, USUA Ultralight Pilot
Cal Aggie Flying Farmers
Sacramento, CA |
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Crash Lander
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| Posted: Thu May 10, 2007 5:04 am Post subject: Re: Airbourne again. |
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"Euan Kilgour" <av8bharrier2 (AT) yahoo (DOT) co.uk> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Cross country in a Gazelle sounds like a bit of a stretch if you only
have 2 hours endurance.
Your diversion options would be quite limited to say the least.
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Absolutely. I guess you just plan your fuel stops very carefully. It's not
an a/c you'd x-country in just to get somewhere. It's an a/c you x-country
in for the joy of flying it, the scenery along the way, and the hamburger at
the other end.
I'd like to do a decent trip once I've gained more experience, and go from
say Barwon Heads down to Mount Gambia. You'd need a fuel stop along the way,
but it'd be a great trip.
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