AirTalk.org Aviation discussions newsgroups   Archives   FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Air Force One at Daytona Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next          AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviators (General Discussions) View previous topic :: View next topic   Author Message Michael 182 Guest Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 5:44 pm    Post subject: Air Force One at Daytona I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael http://makeashorterlink.com/?C43163D67 Back to top Gig Giacona Guest Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona "Michael 182" <mhorwith (AT) attbiNOSPAMALLOWED (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael http://makeashorterlink.com/?C43163D67 Close https://aviationtoolbox.org/Members/kyler/tools/map_explorer?image=1893241%2 C-766011%2C100&scale=100&selected.x=38&selected.y=335 or http://makeashorterlink.com/?S17232D67 Back to top Jay Beckman Guest Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 6:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona "Michael 182" <mhorwith (AT) attbiNOSPAMALLOWED (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael http://makeashorterlink.com/?C43163D67 If you look over the backside of the Daytona "Superstretch" Grandstands, you are looking right down on the airport. There is some telephoto compression in that photo but not a lot! Jay Beckman Chandler, AZ Student Pilot Back to top SFM Guest Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona Gee I wonder if the pilot of AF1 in violation of the stadium and sports gathering NOTAM?? ;-) -- ------------------------------------------------------------------ Scott F. Migaldi, K9PO MI-150972 PP-ASEL-IA Are you a PADI Instructor or DM? Then join the PADI Instructor Yahoo Group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PADI-Instructors/join ----------------------------------- Catch the wave! www.hamwave.com **"A long time ago being crazy meant something, nowadays everyone is crazy" -- Charles Manson** ------------------------------------- "Jay Beckman" <jnsbeckman (AT) cox (DOT) net> wrote Quote: "Michael 182" <mhorwith (AT) attbiNOSPAMALLOWED (DOT) com> wrote in message news:2k7Yb.42491$yE5.175158 (AT) attbi_s54 (DOT) .. I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael http://makeashorterlink.com/?C43163D67 If you look over the backside of the Daytona "Superstretch" Grandstands, you are looking right down on the airport. There is some telephoto compression in that photo but not a lot! Jay Beckman Chandler, AZ Student Pilot Back to top G.R. Patterson III Guest Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona SFM wrote: Quote: Gee I wonder if the pilot of AF1 in violation of the stadium and sports gathering NOTAM?? I believe that does not apply to U.S. military aircraft. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. Back to top Frederick Wilson Guest Posted: Mon Feb 16, 2004 10:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by all those TFRs aswell Fred "G.R. Patterson III" <nobody2 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote Quote: SFM wrote: Gee I wonder if the pilot of AF1 in violation of the stadium and sports gathering NOTAM?? I believe that does not apply to U.S. military aircraft. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. Back to top Chuck Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona "Frederick Wilson" <acr_scoutNOSPAM (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote Quote: That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by all those TFRs aswell <snip> I would imagine that Air Force One can fly anywhere it anywhere it damn well pleases... :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system ([url]http://www.grisoft.com)[/url]. Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release Date: 2/13/04 Back to top BTIZ Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 12:33 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona There should have been a presidential TFR in addition to the standard "crowd / event" TFR.. guess which takes priority.. If the airport is that close to the race track, then I'm sure everyone had to be on a clearance and in ATC contact to land there during the race. Glad our local NASCAR track is far from the local airports, but the local AF Base is within the standard "crowd / event" TFR radius, and I'm sure they don't stand down on race week. BT "Chuck" <chuck (AT) nohost (DOT) invalid> wrote Quote: "Frederick Wilson" <acr_scoutNOSPAM (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vAbYb.325202$I06.3326541 (AT) attbi_s01 (DOT) .. That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by all those TFRs aswell snip I would imagine that Air Force One can fly anywhere it anywhere it damn well pleases... :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system ([url]http://www.grisoft.com)[/url]. Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release Date: 2/13/04 Back to top Stuart King Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:40 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona It seems unsafe.....so many people so close to the flying whitehouse. SK "BTIZ" <btiznospm2 (AT) cox (DOT) nospm.net> wrote Quote: There should have been a presidential TFR in addition to the standard "crowd / event" TFR.. guess which takes priority.. If the airport is that close to the race track, then I'm sure everyone had to be on a clearance and in ATC contact to land there during the race. Glad our local NASCAR track is far from the local airports, but the local AF Base is within the standard "crowd / event" TFR radius, and I'm sure they don't stand down on race week. BT "Chuck" <chuck (AT) nohost (DOT) invalid> wrote in message news:i5dYb.7375$hm4.3932 (AT) newsread3 (DOT) news.atl.earthlink.net... "Frederick Wilson" <acr_scoutNOSPAM (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote in message news:vAbYb.325202$I06.3326541 (AT) attbi_s01 (DOT) .. That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by all those TFRs aswell snip I would imagine that Air Force One can fly anywhere it anywhere it damn well pleases... :) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system ([url]http://www.grisoft.com)[/url]. Version: 6.0.588 / Virus Database: 372 - Release Date: 2/13/04 Back to top G.R. Patterson III Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:48 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona Stuart King wrote: Quote: It seems unsafe.....so many people so close to the flying whitehouse. Absolutely. In my opinion, the president should be kept as far away from any other human being as possible at all times. Can't tell who might be a terrorist. They have that moon base up and running yet? George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. Back to top C J Campbell Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona "SFM" <k9po (AT) amsat (DOT) org> wrote Quote: Gee I wonder if the pilot of AF1 in violation of the stadium and sports gathering NOTAM?? The notam does not apply to military, rescue, or police aircraft that are in the TFR on official business, nor does it apply to aircraft on approach or departing from an airfield. Back to top CFLav8r Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona Quote: I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael I have posted a picture of Daytona from the air that I took on a trip from St.Augustine to Titusville. The picture shows quite clearly how close the track is to the runway. The link for the picture is http://home.cfl.rr.com/floridaaviator/images/072ml.jpg David (KORL) PP-ASEL Back to top BTIZ Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona Thanx... looks like the perfect airport neighbor.. a noisy track.. BT "CFLav8r" <darthmaul (AT) evilempire (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael I have posted a picture of Daytona from the air that I took on a trip from St.Augustine to Titusville. The picture shows quite clearly how close the track is to the runway. The link for the picture is http://home.cfl.rr.com/floridaaviator/images/072ml.jpg David (KORL) PP-ASEL Back to top Ash Wyllie Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 11:55 am    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona Frederick Wilson opined Quote: That is not the case. When we fly army helicopters we have to abide by all those TFRs aswell Of course, we all know how untrustworthy Army Aviation is. Quote: "G.R. Patterson III" <nobody2 (AT) verizon (DOT) net> wrote in message news:4031522C.23C05E13 (AT) verizon (DOT) net... SFM wrote: Gee I wonder if the pilot of AF1 in violation of the stadium and sports gathering NOTAM?? I believe that does not apply to U.S. military aircraft. George Patterson A diplomat is a person who can tell you to go to hell in such a way that you look forward to the trip. -ash Cthulhu for President! Why vote for a lesser evil? Back to top Trent Moorehead Guest Posted: Tue Feb 17, 2004 1:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Air Force One at Daytona "Michael 182" <mhorwith (AT) attbiNOSPAMALLOWED (DOT) com> wrote Quote: I promise, promise, promise there is no political agenda here. I just think this is a great photo. Don't know how far the runway is from the stands, but the illusion is that the wings are practically over the race crowd. Michael http://makeashorterlink.com/?C43163D67 The picture looks foreshortened, I guess due to a zoom lens, making it look close to the crowd. While it is close, it's not *that* close! What I thought was really impressive was when AF-1 circled the track at a low altitude. I believe that may have been the first time I've ever seen a 747 do that. That thing is BIG. Gave me chills and made me strangely nervous at the same time. -Trent PP-ASEL Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         AirTalk.org Forum Index -> Aviators (General Discussions) All times are GMT Goto page 1, 2, 3  Next Page 1 of 3   Jump to: Select a forum Aviation----------------alt.aviationAviation safety EnhancementPlanes, gliders and flying in AustraliaAviation et pilotage (Français)rec.aviationAviation (Aerobatics)Hot air, gas balloons and airshipsHang-gliding, paragliding, foot-launched flightAircraft Design & BuildingInstrument Flight RulesAviation (Classifieds)Military AircraftNaval AviationAviation (Miscellaneous Topics)Owning AirplanesAviators (General Discussions)Aviation related productsAircraft RestorationHelicopters and rotary wing aircraftsFlight SimulationSailplanesAviation (Students)Light aircraftFlying related activities in the UK Airports----------------alt.airportsEdinburgh Airport Glasgow Airport Humberside Airport Luton Airport Aberdeen Airport Glasgow Prestwick Airport  You cannot post new topics in this forum You cannot reply to topics in this forum You cannot edit your posts in this forum You cannot delete your posts in this forum You cannot vote in polls in this forum Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2006 phpBB Group SEO toolkit © 2004-2006 webmedic.